Would a 97 Nasser win the 2011 Olympia?

[Parker]

Shawn Ray, Levone, all get marked down for their "hands on hips whist waiting for results" pose---Nasser does a variation of it..

[the_swami]

haha good stuff man, in pic the effect is very clear in showing how much Dorians delts could be better!!



this guy would beat a prime ronnie easily!

so many weaknesses Dorian had which ppl never mention:

weak arms
lack of upper chest
no popping delts
weak traps
torn bicep, torn tricep
no quad sweep
lack of thigh seperation
huge blocky waist and distended gut

[The_Hammer]

so many weaknesses Dorian had which ppl never mention:

weak arms
lack of upper chest
no popping delts
weak traps
torn bicep, torn tricep
no quad sweep
lack of thigh seperation
huge blocky waist and distended gut

You're outta your fucking mind. 

[kiwiol]

You're outta your fucking mind. 

He only comes here to kiss Nasser's ass directly or indirectly (attacking Dorian, the judges etc). He's so butt hurt, he keeps repeating Dorian should've lost the Olympia every year, to guys like Shawn and Kevin. Pathetic.

[Sherief Shalaby]

He only comes here to kiss Nasser's ass directly or indirectly (attacking Dorian, the judges etc). He's so butt hurt, he keeps repeating Dorian should've lost the Olympia every year, to guys like Shawn and Kevin. Pathetic.

kiwi you dont like swami because you were saying he was a thin twink (same size as mr. bones "love donkey") then bobs posted some of swami's great pics. and forced you to say you were totally wrong and that swami had/has great physique.. no wonder you are jealous and we all know you have currently a fat nutella physique 

[kiwiol]

kiwi you dont like swami because you were saying he was a thin twink (same size as mr. bones "love donkey") then bobs posted some of swami's great pics. and forced you to say you were totally wrong and that swami had/has great physique.. no wonder you are jealous and we all know you have currently a fat nutella physique 

Yeah, I'm jealous I don't get to kiss Nasser's ass 24/7, sniff his soiled thongs many times a day and visit him in person, so I can take pics of me visibly fondling him all over. You got me there

[Palpatine Q]

kiwi you dont like swami because you were saying he was a thin twink (same size as mr. bones "love donkey") then bobs posted some of swami's great pics. and forced you to say you were totally wrong and that swami had/has great physique.. no wonder you are jealous and we all know you have currently a fat nutella physique 

so do you fatso.,....does that mean you can't say anything bad about Dorian, because you are fat ?

[Sherief Shalaby]

so do you fatso.,....does that mean you can't say anything bad about Dorian, because you are fat ?

lol so what if i take a decent pic. of myself now??.. i am ready to do it if you will confess you are an asshole after seeing it.. swami and bigbobs can be the judges.. what do you think??..

[NarcissisticDeity]

so many weaknesses Dorian had which ppl never mention:

weak arms
lack of upper chest
no popping delts
weak traps
torn bicep, torn tricep
no quad sweep
lack of thigh seperation
huge blocky waist and distended gut

It should have been very easy then for Nasser to beat him then  oh that's right racism rears it's ugly head 

[NarcissisticDeity]

haha good stuff man, in pic the effect is very clear in showing how much Dorians delts could be better!!



this guy would beat a prime ronnie easily!

Dorian's delts were fine 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Dorian's delts were fine 

typical ND!!. we are not saying his delts are very bad but when you compare them to levrone's or nasser's or of course dillett's sure they look weaker!!.. post pics of him beside any of these guys in their best years and from any angle their shoulders are clearly better in shap and size!!..

[johnny1]

Nasser got beaten by a much lighter Flex in the 97 and 98 Arnold Classic. PH would beat Nasser for the same reason Flex did - from the front Nasser would dominate maybe the FLS and Abs n thighs. But as soon as they turn to the side and back poses, PH beats him hands down. No contest.

Overall, Phil in his best shape beats a prime Nasser.

Valid points, the biggest Issue Nasser would have is the Conditioning and Detail from the Side and Back it really Does not matter how much bigger Nasser was, its the Finer Points like Detail/Condition/and Tie ins that comes to the Front under the Stage lights....Especially in this day and age of Glute/ham/back Tie-ins (upper and lower) these are the Areas Nasser @ over 260lbs never Nailed and for all his Massive size would not compare favorably next to Heath, IMO its Hard to see him Beating Phil UNLESS Phil screwed up his Condition... his Best chance perhaps would be BELOW 250lbs as in 1993-94 not the "Mass-monster" he became in 1995 onwards that Massive size and more importantly lack of Serious Detail from the Back and Side would More than likely be his undoing.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Valid points, the biggest Issue Nasser would have is the Conditioning and Detail from the Side and Back it really Does not matter how much bigger Nasser was, its the Finer Points like Detail/Condition/and Tie ins that comes to the Front under the Stage lights....Especially in this day and age of Glute/ham/back Tie-ins (upper and lower) these are the Areas Nasser @ over 260lbs never Nailed and for all his Massive size would not compare favorably next to Heath, IMO its Hard to see him Beating Phil UNLESS Phil screwed up his Condition... his Best chance perhaps would be BELOW 250lbs as in 1993-94 not the "Mass-monster" he became in 1995 onwards that Massive size and more importantly lack of Serious Detail from the Back and Side would More than likely be his undoing.

i dont agree with you johnny that nasser lacked any details from the side!!.. at his best he looked great from the side as he did from the front.. these 2 pics are from mr. olympia 96 and he was 280 pounds or 285 (cant remember exactly) and as you see he looked huge and detailed in a very good shape from the side!!..

[Sherief Shalaby]

and here in mr. olympia 95 and aside of not executing the SC pose perfectly as dorian and levrone you can see clearly he was as detailed or even more detailed than both of them and of course bigger!!..

ND can see well how yates shoulders were relatively small beside nasser's and levrone's

[bigbobs]

less Anti-Nasser bias? I posted a pic of him in the another thread in the ab-thigh from the 1995 Huston Pro at 268lbs , I said he has among the best ab-thighs of all-time and infinitely better than any pro competing today , is this anti-Nasser? of course not and why? because it's applicable

This is true, I think you post more favourably of Nasser in threads where Sherief or I are not posting in, but when you see us in a Nasser debate you post more negative about him, perhaps you enjoy debating   I dont think anyone here would disagree with that observation given the # of Dorian/Ronnie posts you've made over the years.

[bigbobs]

Great shots Sherief!  I think 96 Olympia Nasser would destroy anything presented on stage at the 2011 Olympia!  His "weak" side shots 

[NarcissisticDeity]

typical ND!!. we are not saying his delts are very bad but when you compare them to levrone's or nasser's or of course dillett's sure they look weaker!!.. post pics of him beside any of these guys in their best years and from any angle their shoulders are clearly better in shap and size!!..

Actually they don't , you have to recall this is the best Dorian looked and Peter McGough touched on the fact that he did indeed diet down to much for contests and his muscle roundness suffered for it which is noticeable in the delts which are clearly more massive here and more round

Dilletts?  huge but his delts were lacking

[NarcissisticDeity]

and here in mr. olympia 95 and aside of not executing the SC pose perfectly as dorian and levrone you can see clearly he was as detailed or even more detailed than both of them and of course bigger!!..

ND can see well how yates shoulders were relatively small beside nasser's and levrone's

Bad pic to compare delts with , Nasser is doing a side-delt shot and Dorian and Kevin are doing textbook side-chest shots , but I don't doubt Nasser's would be bigger but I'm talking about Dorian from the black & white pics where his delts are massive and round and much bigger than when he dieted down in this contest

[andreisdaman]

You're outta your fucking mind. 

nope....he's actually right

[Palpatine Q]

lol so what if i take a decent pic. of myself now??.. i am ready to do it if you will confess you are an asshole after seeing it.. swami and bigbobs can be the judges.. what do you think??..

Swami and bigbobs...lololol...nah they aren't too biased 

How about this...take a current pic with proof of date...post it....and let Getbig decide, like everybody else does

[NarcissisticDeity]

i dont agree with you johnny that nasser lacked any details from the side!!.. at his best he looked great from the side as he did from the front.. these 2 pics are from mr. olympia 96 and he was 280 pounds or 285 (cant remember exactly) and as you see he looked huge and detailed in a very good shape from the side!!..

I disagree I think like I said many times that be it the way he poses or whatever he's not the same imposing force from the sides as he was from the front and forget about the back , and the picture clearly illustrates that point , he's barely out sizing a 75-80lbs lighter Shawn Ray , he doesn't look that much bigger in this pose.

That my friend is why he placed behind Shawn Ray in this contest and in fact lost that placing due to the dirty test.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Great shots Sherief!  I think 96 Olympia Nasser would destroy anything presented on stage at the 2011 Olympia!  His "weak" side shots 

Not weak per sa but just not the same imposing force from the side and forget about the back , he disappears from the side and looks much smaller than his weight suggests , another example

And he would get trampled by Heath from the sides and back , would be more competitive from the front to a point

[bigbobs]

Not weak per sa but just not the same imposing force from the side and forget about the back , he disappears from the side and looks much smaller than his weight suggests , another example

And he would get trampled by Heath from the sides and back , would be more competitive from the front to a point

Great example, he looks 5 inches shorter than Fux even though in actuality they are the same height 

[bigbobs]

I disagree I think like I said many times that be it the way he poses or whatever he's not the same imposing force from the sides as he was from the front and forget about the back , and the picture clearly illustrates that point , he's barely out sizing a 75-80lbs lighter Shawn Ray , he doesn't look that much bigger in this pose.

That my friend is why he placed behind Shawn Ray in this contest and in fact lost that placing due to the dirty test.

Much of Shawn Ray's lower bodyweight is due to height.  And on the same "bodyweight" comparison you always make, Shawn's waist looks barely or no smaller than Nasser's in those two side poses despite Nasser being bigger.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Great example, he looks 5 inches shorter than Fux even though in actuality they are the same height 

I've posted many others where it's still the case , the above pic with Shawn Ray illustrates the point , Nasser just wasn't the same imposing force from the sides or back

This pic shows it again