yeah i had him second...maybe even winning, even though i know msot ppl here don't agree with that
in my books conditioning has also been number 1 factor...never really liked that full but soft look guys like vic always bring...better being slightly smaller and flatter but ultra shredded like wolf and jaroslav horvath, for instance
btw, watching this year's posedown i really noticed what gh15 means when he said too much slin makes it impossible to get really shredded...even though phil looks sliced and diced in pictures, watching him pose on stage is actually pretty weird...muscles get flexed and skin wraps around them but nothing under that skin really seems to move...not even a single muscle fiber can be seen moving in his delts when hitting most muscular, for example...the difference between phil and wolf, and even jay, is like night and day...not even mentioning the comparison between him and old-timers from 90s, 80s,...pretty sad, the current state of bb'ing, tbh
