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Re: True Adonis, Wavelength McDonalds Vs. Home cooked?
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2011, 04:16:35 PM »
Adonis, what do you think about grass fed vs grain fed beef?

It seems grass fed beef has a much different ratio of fat types than the more commonly found grain fed beef.  Do you believe this is significant?

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Re: True Adonis, Wavelength McDonalds Vs. Home cooked?
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2011, 05:07:17 PM »
Adonis, what do you think about grass fed vs grain fed beef?

It seems grass fed beef has a much different ratio of fat types than the more commonly found grain fed beef.  Do you believe this is significant?

On the documentary Food INC. (which Adonis probably isn't a fan of  ;D), they show how cows that eat grain build up some kind of puss or mucus in their stomachs because they can't correctly digest grain.

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Farm animals, like humans, are healthiest when they eat certain foods. Cows, have stomachs that are designed to digest grass. Pigs can digest grass, corn, grains, soy and other plants. Chickens and turkeys can eat plants as well as bugs and worms found on the pasture. When animals are fed conventional (or industrial) feed, which can include animal products, antibiotics, and other unnatural substances such as chewing gum and chicken manure, their health is put in jeopardy. And when an animal is unhealthy, the meat and other products made from it will also be less healthy.

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Re: True Adonis, Wavelength McDonalds Vs. Home cooked?
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2011, 07:05:03 PM »
Adonis, what do you think about grass fed vs grain fed beef?

It seems grass fed beef has a much different ratio of fat types than the more commonly found grain fed beef.  Do you believe this is significant?
health wise there would be a difference mabey a very small difference in bodybuilding value.

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Re: True Adonis, Wavelength McDonalds Vs. Home cooked?
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2011, 07:24:48 PM »
On the documentary Food INC. (which Adonis probably isn't a fan of  ;D), they show how cows that eat grain build up some kind of puss or mucus in their stomachs because they can't correctly digest grain.
 
No difference whatsoever health wise as you are cooking the beef.  Even if you ate it rare, there would be no significant difference.  If anyone wants to argue I am more than willing to post studies demonstrating this.

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Re: True Adonis, Wavelength McDonalds Vs. Home cooked?
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2011, 09:08:59 PM »
If raised properly grains should be fed to cattle only to help fatten them up.  Mixtures of grains (oats, barley, wheat, corn) are preferable.  On our farm we always called it 'chops'.  This was in addition to letting the cattle wander around and eat grass.  We never fed them ONLY grain.

Then when raised correctly, as Adonis says eating the meat doesn't make a difference.  Raised correctly being the key word here.  What Food Inc. shows is the ABUSE of the animals as they are fed ONLY corn, no exercise, and no grass.  This is because corn is cheap and it fattens better than anything else.  Of course, when you get paid by the pound you not concerned with quality.

Worse yet cows are given rbGH (cow growth hormones), steroids like finaplix, and several other chemicals.  Plus cows are not designed to eat nothing but corn.  This introduces more risk of e-coli bacteria because the natural chemicals of grass + the cow stomach acids mostly neutralize e-coli.  If fed ONLY corn/grain then the risk increases.  

Food Inc. then goes on to show how (keep in mind high risk cows for e-coli) are standing knee deep in crap.  Gee where does most bacterial like that live?  Hmmm.  The larger companies then try avoid this bacteria by washing and processing the meat with ammonia.  Yum!  So in short you are eating lots of chemicals.  

Just imagine if they raised the animals correctly.  Then there would be no need for chemicals, no roids, no GH, etc.  Sadly Food Inc. does point out that some 70% of processed beef comes from these places that raise the cows in an incorrect manner.


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Re: True Adonis, Wavelength McDonalds Vs. Home cooked?
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2011, 05:27:52 AM »
No difference whatsoever health wise as you are cooking the beef.  Even if you ate it rare, there would be no significant difference.  If anyone wants to argue I am more than willing to post studies demonstrating this.

I'm not, I've been so successful with your dieting methods though that I'm starting to believe you in this area as much as I don't want to.  :-\ lol


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Re: True Adonis, Wavelength McDonalds Vs. Home cooked?
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2011, 05:29:27 AM »
If raised properly grains should be fed to cattle only to help fatten them up.  Mixtures of grains (oats, barley, wheat, corn) are preferable.  On our farm we always called it 'chops'.  This was in addition to letting the cattle wander around and eat grass.  We never fed them ONLY grain.

Then when raised correctly, as Adonis says eating the meat doesn't make a difference.  Raised correctly being the key word here.  What Food Inc. shows is the ABUSE of the animals as they are fed ONLY corn, no exercise, and no grass.  This is because corn is cheap and it fattens better than anything else.  Of course, when you get paid by the pound you not concerned with quality.

Worse yet cows are given rbGH (cow growth hormones), steroids like finaplix, and several other chemicals.  Plus cows are not designed to eat nothing but corn.  This introduces more risk of e-coli bacteria because the natural chemicals of grass + the cow stomach acids mostly neutralize e-coli.  If fed ONLY corn/grain then the risk increases.  

Food Inc. then goes on to show how (keep in mind high risk cows for e-coli) are standing knee deep in crap.  Gee where does most bacterial like that live?  Hmmm.  The larger companies then try avoid this bacteria by washing and processing the meat with ammonia.  Yum!  So in short you are eating lots of chemicals.  

Just imagine if they raised the animals correctly.  Then there would be no need for chemicals, no roids, no GH, etc.  Sadly Food Inc. does point out that some 70% of processed beef comes from these places that raise the cows in an incorrect manner.



Very interesting post, thanks! 

These cows take all this GH, yet they can't ever really bring their lats up...  ::)