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Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« on: September 20, 2011, 07:43:23 PM »
Poll finds Obama losing ground to Republicans (Gov. Palin gains over 15 points, now almost tied)
The Miami Herald ^ | September 20, 2011 | Steven Thomma
Posted on September 20, 2011 8:19:38 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Look out President Barack Obama. Even Sarah Palin's gaining on you.

A new McClatchy-Marist poll finds that Obama looks increasingly vulnerable in next year's election, with a majority of voters believing he'll lose to any Republican, a solid plurality saying they'll definitely vote against him and most potential Republican challengers gaining on him.

Even in potential matchups where he leads, Obama in most cases has lost ground to the Republican.

The biggest gain came for Palin, the former Alaska governor who hasn't yet announced whether she'll jump into the fast-changing race for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

After trailing Obama by more than 20 percentage points in polls all year, the new national survey, taken Sept. 13-14, found Palin trailing the president by just 5 points, 49-44 percent. The key reason: She now leads Obama among independents, a sharp turnaround.

Overall, the gains among Republicans "speak to Obama's decline among independents generally, and how the middle is not his right now," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the national survey.

"This will require him to find ways to either win back the middle or energize his base in ways that hasn't happened so farm" Miringoff said....

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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 07:44:42 PM »
LOL @ bragging about "only" losing by 5 points.



and wait a MFing second - arent YOU the one always complaining that 240 starts too many palin threads, that she's a non-issue?

Why the F are you starting threads about her, then bitching about me for it?

I will so donkey punch you, dude.
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 07:45:46 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on September 20, 2011, 07:44:42 PM
LOL @ bragging about "only" losing by 5 points.




by next year she will steamroll the messiah.
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 07:53:49 PM »
Quote from: 333386 on September 20, 2011, 07:45:46 PM
by next year she will steamroll the messiah.

then stop bithcing about me starting palin threads.

or i will be forced to charge you faster than perry and an old man.

Huntsmann can't save you now!
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 07:56:19 PM »
I still like yer, ever for all her flaws , and if she can take out Obama, even more
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 07:59:51 PM »
Obama: 'Hopey changey stuff' was real (Quotes Palin at NYC fundraiser)
UPI ^ | Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Posted on September 20, 2011 11:01:17 PM EDT by kristinn

U.S. President Barack Obama said Tuesday "all that hopey changey stuff" from his 2008 campaign "was real" and it's "still there."

Speaking to an audience at a political fundraiser in New York, Obama recalled a line from a speech by 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin in which she ridiculed the themes of his presidential campaign by referring to "hopey changey stuff." Without mentioning Palin by name, he told his audience Tuesday: "All that hopey changey stuff, as they say? That was real. It wasn't something ... it was real, you could feel it. You know it. It's still there.

"Even in the midst of this hardship. But it's hard," he said.

"I need your help to finish what we started in 2008."

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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 08:05:51 PM »
Doesn't it ignite your racial hatred for blacks that she had/ has a fetish for black guys?

Surely, that's a deal-breaker for you, no?
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2011, 08:11:21 PM »
no, I will support anyone who will defeat the communist traitor Obama. 
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2011, 08:15:04 PM »
We're in the middle of the 2nd GREAT DEPRESSION>


And obama is still leading all of teh GOPers.


Does this not BAFFLE everyone here? 
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2011, 08:17:06 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on September 20, 2011, 08:15:04 PM
We're in the middle of the 2nd GREAT DEPRESSION>


And obama is still leading all of teh GOPers.


Does this not BAFFLE everyone here? 

Romney is ahead by 2
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2011, 08:19:53 PM »
Quote from: 333386 on September 20, 2011, 08:17:06 PM
Romney is ahead by 2

In every poll?  Or some?  Okay, you found one where it's inside the margin of error TIED>

I guess in the middle of a great depression, 2 slumping wars, UE over 15% real... Let's high five over a freaking tie.

DUde, all the high-rent repubs stayed out of the 2012 race.  Obama ain't losing.  If I could put $ on intrade now, I would.  They know more about political elections than we ever will - and all the good candidates are sitting out.  You know why, you just don't want to admit it.
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2011, 08:22:01 PM »
Quote from: 333386 on September 20, 2011, 08:11:21 PM
no, I will support anyone who will defeat the communist traitor Obama. 
You're quite the multiculturalist.

I find it odd that you are so against Obama since you are quite obviously unemployed and must be receiving government aid.

Get a job already.
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2011, 08:22:14 PM »
Carter was ahead of Reagan until the end.  
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2011, 08:23:25 PM »
Quote from: garebear on September 20, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
You're quite the multiculturalist.

I find it odd that you are so against Obama since you are quite obviously unemployed and must be receiving government aid.

Get a job already.

I hate communists and anti american radicals and leftists like Obama. 
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2011, 05:24:57 AM »
Quote from: garebear on September 20, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
You're quite the multiculturalist.

I find it odd that you are so against Obama since you are quite obviously unemployed and must be receiving government aid.

Get a job already.

Exactly.  Biting the hand that feeds him. 
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
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Re: Palin polling only 5 points down from Obama.
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2011, 02:41:11 PM »
Palin 47% Obama 47%: Turnaround & Why Marist Poll Is No Fluke
Poll Insider ^ | September 21, 2011 | Pollinsider


So, there has been much debate about a recent Marist Poll that shows Sarah Palin within 5% of Barack Obama and whether or not this is a fluke. For one thing, the numbers are actually closer to 47% Palin, 47% Obama, a tie. The Marist poll actually oversample Democrats compared to Republicans by 8 points, and oversamples both of them with Independents. (There has been a rise in Indy voters, but not to the tune of almost 40% of the population. Using historical trends, the anticipated 2012 Voter Turnout rate is 36% D, 36% R, 28% I. If your prefer the Rasmussen Partisan Preference it’s essentially a 3-way tie at 33.5% R, 33% D, and 33.5% I. In either scenario, you end up with a 47-47 tie.

The good news here for Palin again is that among the 6% Undecided, 67% are Independents, 20% are Republicans, and just 13% are Democrats. Undecideds usually tilt towards the challenger and in this case those undecideds are mostly Obama-Disapproving Independents followed by Republicans.

So, beyond reworking the numbers, how do we know that the poll is not a fluke? The easiest way to see it is not a fluke is because this surge only happened in Obama vs Palin, but not in Romney vs Obama. If it were merely growing discontent with Obama and a desire to elect a Republican, we would assume that all candidates would have surged equally or, at worst, half as much.


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