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Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« on: September 21, 2011, 06:55:13 AM »
I have used hgh for many years, but this is my first experience with Chinese blue tops. They are causing pain and some swelling at the injection site which lasts a few days. I haven't experienced this with any other HGH before. If I shoot IM, there are no problems, but sub-q gives the pain and swelling. Why is this?

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 07:04:38 AM »
someone with the handle "Jenetics" shouldn't need drugs.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 07:10:07 AM »
I have used hgh for many years, but this is my first experience with Chinese blue tops. They are causing pain and some swelling at the injection site which lasts a few days. I haven't experienced this with any other HGH before. If I shoot IM, there are no problems, but sub-q gives the pain and swelling. Why is this?

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It could just have a poor reacting with your skin.  Is the GH good?  If it is, just shoot it IM.  It'll absorb better that way anway.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 07:11:21 AM »
To be honest I have no idea whether it's good yet, I'm only a few days into it. It's straight from China. I've not had this reaction to any other HGH before.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 07:12:01 AM »
Does anyone on Getbig or any other board just train naturally.....no bb chemicals, injectibles, pills, supplements.......just regular food and you?

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2011, 07:26:57 AM »
Don't do bodybuilding if you are scared of needles kid...

Anyway, I'm about to order those blue tops you are talking about. But they are so cheap that I wonder if it is fake or the real deal...I'm quite furkin poor...what did you pay? The place I can get it from is domestic so maybe I can get even cheaper if I order from china? 700 E for 200 IU is the price from my source... I am gonna do the GH15 cycling thing but with half the dose...I want to get up to my old max... 178cm/5.10 and 105kg with8%bf...but i did 1500 mg test cyp back then and crazy cardio + T3, when I changed to 1000 mg EQ and 500 mg Sustanon I looked totally diffrent. Spiderweb like veins over quads and shit... I hope I can do this even if my shoulder is fucked...

Anyway hope you mutate on blue tops man! Positive things! Boom!
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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2011, 07:48:09 AM »
Does anyone on Getbig or any other board just train naturally.....no bb chemicals, injectibles, pills, supplements.......just regular food and you?

For what?  If you're in your 20's, you can train hard and eat right consistantly and probably max out your physique in 2 years with decent genetics and a strong level of commitment.  From there, gains stop... PERIOD.  Don't argue that.  You can keep training, refine the muscle.  Go through bulking and leaning stages, but the actual lean muscle mass you will put on over the years becomes minimal to nothing.  You get maxed and then it is just pure refinement from there.  If that is acceptable to a person then sure, just train naturally with food and you.  It's bodybuilding though so why would we limit the ability to build our bodies?  We can sit here and have a drugs are bad argument, sure.  Really think about it though.  If you want drastic, impressive muscle growth, it's not happening naturally... end of story.  So people use the bb chemicals, injectables, pills, and supplements.  If you are looking for more naturals, bodybuilding boards are the wrong place to be.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2011, 07:50:11 AM »
I've been training / bodybuilding for 12 years. I don't need to be told I should train naturally thanks. I am way past my genetic potential.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2011, 07:50:32 AM »
To be honest I have no idea whether it's good yet, I'm only a few days into it. It's straight from China. I've not had this reaction to any other HGH before.

What dose are you using?  Up the dose briefly.  Pin 10+ IU's for a day (you shouldn't even need that much) and if your hands and wrists get stiff and numb, it's probably good.  Shoot a high dose before bed... HGH can give really vivid clear dreams believe it or not, that is a side effect.  You say you have only been on it a few days so sure maybe you aren't seeing visible results, BUT you should feel something.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2011, 07:53:24 AM »
What dose are you using?  Up the dose briefly.  Pin 10+ IU's for a day (you shouldn't even need that much) and if your hands and wrists get stiff and numb, it's probably good.  Shoot a high dose before bed... HGH can give really vivid clear dreams believe it or not, that is a side effect.  You say you have only been on it a few days so sure maybe you aren't seeing visible results, BUT you should feel something.

I have used HGH continually for a number of years, so I doubt I will "feel" anything, but thanks for the suggestion. I am using 7.5iu daily split into 3 doses.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2011, 07:55:19 AM »
I don't know anything about HGH but this may be your problem:

It's straight from China.

These are the people that give us poison dog food, toothpaste, toxic baby clothes and toys etc etc.  

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2011, 08:00:11 AM »
I don't know anything about HGH but this may be your problem:

These are the people that give us poison dog food, toothpaste, toxic baby clothes and toys etc etc.  



LOL. Good point.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2011, 08:01:35 AM »
For what?  If you're in your 20's, you can train hard and eat right consistantly and probably max out your physique in 2 years with decent genetics and a strong level of commitment.  From there, gains stop... PERIOD.  Don't argue that.  You can keep training, refine the muscle.  Go through bulking and leaning stages, but the actual lean muscle mass you will put on over the years becomes minimal to nothing.  You get maxed and then it is just pure refinement from there.  If that is acceptable to a person then sure, just train naturally with food and you.  It's bodybuilding though so why would we limit the ability to build our bodies?  We can sit here and have a drugs are bad argument, sure.  Really think about it though.  If you want drastic, impressive muscle growth, it's not happening naturally... end of story.  So people use the bb chemicals, injectables, pills, and supplements.  If you are looking for more naturals, bodybuilding boards are the wrong place to be.

I just don't relate to the fleeting high that drug addicts seek.  I like that my gains and accomplishments are 100% mine regardless of how they compare to the perfection of a user's gains.  When I fail, I fail.  When I win, I win.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2011, 08:27:07 AM »
I just don't relate to the fleeting high that drug addicts seek.  I like that my gains and accomplishments are 100% mine regardless of how they compare to the perfection of a user's gains.  When I fail, I fail.  When I win, I win.

I am non-stop winning so I can't relate.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2011, 08:29:38 AM »
this kind is often laced with HIV or The Plague.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2011, 08:31:15 AM »
I just don't relate to the fleeting high that drug addicts seek.  I like that my gains and accomplishments are 100% mine regardless of how they compare to the perfection of a user's gains.  When I fail, I fail.  When I win, I win.

I train without drugs too, just because I enjoy it. But after 3-5 years of proper training (as a natural) you ain't gonna grow anymore. You may get stronger but growth will be basically zero. Lots of people fool themselves by getting fat and then dieting back and forth and/or changing exercises and just regaining strength.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2011, 08:50:35 AM »
I train without drugs too, just because I enjoy it. But after 3-5 years of proper training (as a natural) you ain't gonna grow anymore. You may get stronger but growth will be basically zero. Lots of people fool themselves by getting fat and then dieting back and forth and/or changing exercises and just regaining strength.

I appreciate your comments, but I've seen continued gains well beyond 3-5 years of training.  The ups and downs of life inconjunction with training is always true though.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2011, 08:51:15 AM »
I am non-stop winning so I can't relate.

Your thread certainly backs that up.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2011, 08:54:45 AM »
From the right source, they are gold.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2011, 09:04:32 AM »
I just don't relate to the fleeting high that drug addicts seek.  I like that my gains and accomplishments are 100% mine regardless of how they compare to the perfection of a user's gains.  When I fail, I fail.  When I win, I win.

I hear what you're saying, but this is also based purely off of your beliefs.  I have trained my ass off for 10 years now, I played sports all through college, and sought competitive bodybuilding afterwards to feed my drive for competition and because I loved weight training.  Reality is though, if you want to compete, winning isn't happening without drugs.  If I didn't compete, I wouldn't use.  I never had self image issues or problems getting laid or any of that BS prior to hormone use.  I use because I want to be the best bodybuilder I can be.  I bust my ass day in and day out of the gym, with my diet, etc... no one who knows me would ever say otherwise.  I never feel like my win isn't my win and my failures aren't my own because of drug use.  I choose to learn about drug use and apply that use to my body.  It's my choice and therefore becomes a part of my success or failure.  Bodybuilding is all encompassing and drugs are a part of it.  I have said it before... If a break through diet or training method comes out, everyone in the world rushes to try it, but then people want to to criticize those trying to learn the drugs aspect just as well as the diet and training aspect.  I believe if you have the best understanding of all 3, you will produce the best results.  Again however, this can easily turn into a moral discussion about what is perceived as cheating or right and wrong etc... I'm not looking to go there, just want you to understand that when it comes to building your body, the drug aspect is there to help just as much as a good diet and training routine.  Also, I have no knock against naturals.  I loved training natural just as much as I love training now.  I used to be ehavy into cross fit and one of the most rewarding workouts I ever had was this:

1 mile run
100 pull ups
200 push ups
300 bodyweight squats
1 mile run

All while wearing a 20 lb weight vest and completed in 35 mins.

I loved the exhausted feeling I got.  I never gave a shit how I ate then or if I went drinking on the weekend or slept enough, it didn't matter.  Now I don't even know if I could run a mile in under 9 mins lol.  However I find watching the changes and growth in my body just as rewarding because I know I put just as much work and effort in.  The effort happens to be spread differently now.  It's put into learning the body.  Experimenting with diets and drugs.  The discipline to not drink on the weekends.  To put max effort into every weight training session I have.  Making sure I sleep enough, etc.

It's just as rewarding with drugs.  As long as you can look in the mirror and know that you are going balls to the wall, nobody telling you that you "cheated" or anything like that will effect you.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2011, 09:06:50 AM »
I have used HGH continually for a number of years, so I doubt I will "feel" anything, but thanks for the suggestion. I am using 7.5iu daily split into 3 doses.

I guess.  If you have been using HGH for so long though, you should know better than to be buying random Chinese kits that you feel the need to ask on a boarding if they have something wrong with them.  Also, it's usually a rule of thumb that if you have to ask, there is probably an issue.  Your GH could very well be bunk, but I don't know your source, haven't used your GH myself, etc... so it's a tough call man.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2011, 09:09:47 AM »
I guess.  If you have been using HGH for so long though, you should know better than to be buying random Chinese kits that you feel the need to ask on a boarding if they have something wrong with them.  Also, it's usually a rule of thumb that if you have to ask, there is probably an issue.  Your GH could very well be bunk, but I don't know your source, haven't used your GH myself, etc... so it's a tough call man.

Of course. I've used many varieties. In 11 years you're unlikely to be able to stick to the same source. As with many things in life, it can be a case of trial and error with these things. It's a constant learning experience. As I haven't experienced the pain and swelling before, I felt it prudent to ask the question and I'm keen to learn why I am having this reaction.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2011, 09:11:48 AM »
Of course. I've used many varieties. In 11 years you're unlikely to be able to stick to the same source. As with many things in life, it can be a case of trial and error with these things. It's a constant learning experience. As I haven't experienced the pain and swelling before, I felt it prudent to ask the question and I'm keen to learn why I am having this reaction.

Fair enough bro.  My best advise would be then... Use this gh until you can assess the quality and then if it's good, stick with it and deal with the sides.  If not, find a new source.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2011, 09:18:36 AM »
I appreciate your comments, but I've seen continued gains well beyond 3-5 years of training.  The ups and downs of life inconjunction with training is always true though.

Sure, but I would say that that mostly happens when you haven't been training in a decent way for 3-5 years consecutively. I seen guys make muscular gains after 10 years, because they half assed it for many years and didn't train correctly. And soooo many people lie to themselves that they make gains, in reality they are just oscilllating around a certain strength level or certain level of lean mass.

Can you get stronger after several years of proper training? For sure, many natural powerlifters get stronger in their 40s...but lean mass? In my experience those gains are minimal after just a few years of decent training.

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Re: Pain and swelling from generic blue top HGH
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