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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2011, 11:11:05 AM »


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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #101 on: October 14, 2011, 03:20:54 PM »
you are not in the video
That's where I first hung out with X-factor...

I'm in this video.

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #102 on: October 14, 2011, 11:17:55 PM »
Straight men don't dance that way

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #103 on: October 14, 2011, 11:46:26 PM »
its in your head bro. it takes repeated abuse to cause a reduction in serotonin and/or serotonergenic neurons.  you should actually feel pretty fucking good the few days, weeks after taking X. its only when u become an E head that over time you will develop depression.

I agree. Don't touch the stuff anymore but when I started experimenting over ten years ago I never felt like shit the next day, in fact I felt great. It was over time and what would be considered abuse that the following days were terrible. Loss of appetite, hot flashes, sore jaw, depression. The effect of E becomes very phoney after awhile too, the shitty after effects aren't worth it. Had some crazy great sex with the ladies  during the good phase of it though. :P

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #104 on: October 15, 2011, 06:37:45 AM »


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again nice stuff bro

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #105 on: October 15, 2011, 08:40:51 AM »

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #106 on: October 15, 2011, 08:59:59 AM »
I love those "crazy" hippies, can't understand all the hate against them.
That guy @11:00 sums up some good arguments.

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Re: E hangover?
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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #108 on: October 15, 2011, 08:26:48 PM »
I fucking love Tosca. Saw Dorfmeister a few years back. Awesome fucking stuff. That and early Theirvery Corporation. Actually a ton of electronic lounge rocks.

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #109 on: October 15, 2011, 08:34:21 PM »
THIS IS THE ULTIMATE FUCk SONG. You give a woman or two a hit and play this, they will be sucking your dick all night. That bass line is sick. Man, Im getting a contact high already. lol




dub version, yeah...


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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #110 on: October 16, 2011, 12:28:17 AM »
I let your mom hanging, as im comming over to your house.

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #111 on: October 16, 2011, 01:48:45 AM »
I fucking love Tosca. Saw Dorfmeister a few years back. Awesome fucking stuff. That and early Theirvery Corporation. Actually a ton of electronic lounge rocks.

That's good to hear :D
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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #112 on: October 17, 2011, 02:29:26 AM »



Ecstasy does not wreck the mind, study claims


Previous research was flawed, say experts, but findings will shock those who campaign against the drug's use


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Robin McKie
guardian.co.uk,    Saturday 19 February 2011 21.45 GMT
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Ecstasy tablets induce a sense of euphoria and intimacy with others, and diminished anxiety and depression Photograph: David Allan / Alamy/Alamy
There is no evidence that ecstasy causes brain damage, according to one of the largest studies into the effects of the drug. Too many previous studies made over-arching conclusions from insufficient data, say the scientists responsible for the research, and the drug's dangers have been greatly exaggerated.

The finding will shock campaigners who have claimed ecstasy poses a real risk of triggering brain damage. They have argued that it can induce memory loss, decrease cognitive performance and has long-lasting effects on behaviour.

But experts who have argued that the drug is relatively safe welcomed the new paper. "I always assumed that, when properly designed studies were carried out, we would find ecstasy does not cause brain damage," said Professor David Nutt, who was fired as chair of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs by Alan Johnson, then home secretary, for publicly stating alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than ecstasy.

The study was carried out by a team led by Professor John Halpern of Harvard Medical School and published in the journal Addiction last week. Funded by a $1.8m grant from the US National Institute on Drug Abuse, it was launched specifically to avoid methodological drawbacks that have bedevilled previous attempts to pinpoint whether or not ecstasy users suffer brain damage.

Ecstasy – or 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA – came into widespread use in the 1980s when taking it was linked to raves and the playing of dance music. Its symptoms include euphoria, a sense of intimacy with others and diminished anxiety and depression. In the US alone, more than 12 million have taken it.

But the taking of ecstasy has also been linked to damage to the central nervous system and research in recent years has suggested that long-term changes to emotional states and behaviour have been triggered by consumption of the drug. Possession of it has been made an offence in most western nations.

However, Halpern was sharply critical of the quality of the research that had linked ecstasy to brain damage. "Too many studies have been carried out on small populations, while overarching conclusions have been drawn from them," he said. For a start, some previous research has studied users who were taken from a culture dominated by all-night dancing, which thus exposed these individuals to sleep and fluid deprivation – factors that are themselves known to produce long-lasting cognitive effects. Non-users were not selected from those from a similar background, which therefore skewed results. In addition, past studies have not taken sufficient account of the fact that ecstasy users take other drugs or alcohol that could affect cognition or that they may have suffered intellectual impairment before they started taking ecstasy. In Halpern's study only ecstasy users who took no other drugs and who had suffered no previous impairment were selected.

The resulting experiment whittled down 1,500 potential participants to 52 selected users, whose cognitive abilities matched those of a group of 59 non-users. "We even took hair samples of participants to test whether they were telling the truth about their drug and alcohol habits," said Halpern. "Essentially we compared one group of people who danced and raved and took ecstasy with a similar group of individuals who danced and raved but who did not take ecstasy. When we did that, we found that there was no difference in their cognitive abilities." In other words, previous studies highlighted problems triggered by other factors, such as use of other drugs or drink, or sleep deprivation.

But the drug still posed risks, he said. "Ecstasy consumption is dangerous because illegally made pills often contain contaminants that can have harmful side-effects."

HIGHS AND LOWS

1912 First synthesis of MDMA by a German chemist, Anton Kollisch, who worked for the giant Merck company.

1970 The drug is first detected in tablets seized on the streets of Chicago.

1977 UK makes MDMA a Class A drug.

1984 Term 'ecstasy' coined in California.

1985 MDMA becomes a Schedule 1 controlled substance in the US. In the UK the street price is £25.

Mid1980s Raves become increasingly popular, spreading out from the centres of London and Manchester

1988-89 Raves, electronic dance music and ecstasy lead to a second "summer of love". First recorded ecstasy-related death in UK.

1995 Essex schoolgirl Leah Betts, 18, dies after taking ecstasy.2000 British Crime Survey finds the proportion of 16-29 -year-olds who have taken ecstasy is 12%.

2003 6,230 people found guilty, cautioned or fined for ecstasy-related offences

2005 In a survey of 500 Edinburgh students, 36% said they had taken ecstasy. Of those, 75% considered ecstasy a "positive force".

2011 The street price is now between £3 and £8.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/19/ecstasy-harm-brain-new-study?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9037&#start-of-comments

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #113 on: October 17, 2011, 02:32:19 AM »





2011 The street price is now between £3 and £8.

That's really expensive over there....


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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #114 on: October 17, 2011, 02:42:32 AM »
How many did you take? was this a binge, or just a one night take a few press tabs kind of deal? after one night you should only feel like shit for maybe one or two days just eat alot of good foods and after one or two days you will be your normal self. you probably didnt get that much sleep if any sleep the night you dropped the X. so just a few nights of good foods and lots of sleep and you will be fine.I wouldnt take anything except eat good nutritious foods and hydrate yourself real well and just be glad your not coming off LSD.

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #115 on: October 17, 2011, 08:14:52 AM »
How many did you take? was this a binge, or just a one night take a few press tabs kind of deal? after one night you should only feel like shit for maybe one or two days just eat alot of good foods and after one or two days you will be your normal self. you probably didnt get that much sleep if any sleep the night you dropped the X. so just a few nights of good foods and lots of sleep and you will be fine.I wouldnt take anything except eat good nutritious foods and hydrate yourself real well and just be glad your not coming off LSD.

thanks dude, no i only took 1 that night, i felt a week kind of depressive but thats also because i had a few problems in my life so i bet if everything is going well the hangover isnt that bad.

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #116 on: October 17, 2011, 09:08:18 AM »
Kop op Marcel, zoek een gezonde afleiding, ik spreek uit "ervaring"  ;)

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #117 on: October 17, 2011, 09:42:46 AM »
and after all these times still positive about it?

Absolutely! LSD is the shit. Unlike any other drug known to mankind. Tried everything under the sun and L wins hands down. From personal experience I have found that your surroundings and people that you trip with can make or ruin your "E ticket ride" so you dont want to go clubbin or drop it with strangers.
The first part of the trip is a look into the realm of the insane. When you cant stop laughing and smiling and acting the fool. The second part takes you into the halucinating phase when visuals entertain you endlesslly. And ending this ride is the Psychedelic part when you get all talketive and spiritual and then end up melting into one with your chick/some good sex.
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« Reply #118 on: October 17, 2011, 09:45:24 AM »
That's really expensive over there....

True dat. 25 to 50 euro cents bulk.  2 euros pp street.
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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #119 on: October 18, 2011, 01:00:35 PM »
All you people who have done ACID have nothing on the South Park creators. Talk about balls. Fuking Awesome!

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/south-park-creators-admitting-to-dropping-acid-before-cross-dressing-at-the-oscars/

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Re: E hangover?
« Reply #120 on: October 18, 2011, 01:02:29 PM »
All you people who have done ACID have nothing on the South Park creators. Talk about balls

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/south-park-creators-admitting-to-dropping-acid-before-cross-dressing-at-the-oscars/

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