Team GH15 Members... aka Team No Hormonas no Bodybuild

[kiwiol]

Arms looking sick Bam-Bam. I am contemplating going over to the dark side myself...

Don't, damn you

[PJim]

Don't, damn you

I'm more tempted than Basile at the auction of this beauty.

[kiwiol]

I'm more tempted than Basile at the auction of this beauty.

LOL

[BiGHer]

The discussion will not end, because it's not the point here who looks better, the point is that you shouldn't ruin your health with mega-doses of steroids.

The haters look like shit compared to gh15 pupils, but that is entirely not the point here.

Your thread is useless, go and play with a bear in the zoo.

A bear in the zoo... very creative.  So you think that you will ruin your health with mega-doses of steroids alone.  What basis do you have for this claim?  I am yet to read about 1 death directly related to steroids.  Have you had a drink lately DK?  A drink of alcohol is probably more toxic to your body than a shot of test.  The point to this thread is that the gh15 haters have little-no basis for their claims about how drugs effect their health.  They also continue to regurgitate this nonsense about not needing high doses to obtain a certain type of physique.  So my challenge was simply meant for these haters to display these phenomenal low dose physiques that they rave about and calim exist.  Then gh15 could simply provide what a real, quality, high dose physique looks like. 

You are right though.  The discussion will not end either way.  There will always be two sides to an argument even if one of those sides is blatantly ignorant and wrong.

[DK II]

A bear in the zoo... very creative.  So you think that you will ruin your health with mega-doses of steroids alone.  What basis do you have for this claim?  I am yet to read about 1 death directly related to steroids.  Have you had a drink lately DK?  A drink of alcohol is probably more toxic to your body than a shot of test.  The point to this thread is that the gh15 haters have little-no basis for their claims about how drugs effect their health.  They also continue to regurgitate this nonsense about not needing high doses to obtain a certain type of physique.  So my challenge was simply meant for these haters to display these phenomenal low dose physiques that they rave about and calim exist.  Then gh15 could simply provide what a real, quality, high dose physique looks like. 

You are right though.  The discussion will not end either way.  There will always be two sides to an argument even if one of those sides is blatantly ignorant and wrong.

God, you're fucking stupid.

I'm one of the 11 apostles of gh15, and that bear thing isn't creative, i used that since 2007 and it wasn't even funny back then.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Gh15 seems to come under a lot of scrutiny lately... So I have a suggestion... How about gh15 chooses 5 of his Pupils on this boarding and with their agreement, they post pics... Then any 5 of the gh15 haters, you know who you are, form your team of 5 and post pics... We'll let Getbiggers decide who has the better physiques...

Obviously, gh15 would have to agree to this
5 chosen pupils would have to agree
5 gh15 haters would have to man up and post their pics againt Team gh15

Let's see if we can make this happen...

but this would not be a fair comparison because most of GH15 pupils take drugs while most of his haters are natural!!..

[ob205]

What is it about Tren Ace that causes this reaction (cough,etc)?  Is it from UG labs or would this happen with pharm grade stuff as well?

[Meso_z]

What is it about Tren Ace that causes this reaction (cough,etc)?  Is it from UG labs or would this happen with pharm grade stuff as well?

I had the cough from HG too, once. I think I hit a vein. and the itch couple times.....

[makaveli25]

I like gh15 he knows his shit when it comes to being a pro bodybuilder. If you don't think serious side effects happen using test a shitload of tren and 15-30 i.u of gh your delusional. I've read some pretty serious threads over at pm about guys having bad heart problems completely fucked cholesterol horrible blood pressure etc etc.. I think one of the main differences between pros and gymrats is the ability of the pros to deal with side effects. Their bodies seem to tolerate it better. You have to be smart and know your limits. I for example can't use tren anymore. It messed my heart up for awhile. I had terrible chest pain and insanely high blood pressure.

Steroids might not kill you directly doesn't mean you wont suffer a heart attack when you're in your forties.

[BiGHer]

I like gh15 he knows his shit when it comes to being a pro bodybuilder. If you don't think serious side effects happen using test a shitload of tren and 15-30 i.u of gh your delusional. I've read some pretty serious threads over at pm about guys having bad heart problems completely fucked cholesterol horrible blood pressure etc etc.. I think one of the main differences between pros and gymrats is the ability of the pros to deal with side effects. Their bodies seem to tolerate it better. You have to be smart and know your limits. I for example can't use tren anymore. It messed my heart up for awhile. I had terrible chest pain and insanely high blood pressure.

Steroids might not kill you directly doesn't mean you wont suffer a heart attack when you're in your forties.

I actually agree with you here.  Of course people have side effects.  However, most people who have heart attacks in the first place had a predisposition to a heart condition to begin with that they were unaware of.  A lot of top pros definitely handle the sides well and it seperate them from others for sure.  Again, I just think you can do a lot worse to your body than mega dose on hormones and if you are smart and keep a doctor in the loop, and don't don other drugs, the odds of anything severe happening are slim.

[muscle19]

what are the potential if any health side effects from tren? i heard its more harsh of a drug but what can it do?

[BiGHer]

God, you're fucking stupid.

I'm one of the 11 apostles of gh15, and that bear thing isn't creative, i used that since 2007 and it wasn't even funny back then.

I haven't said anything that is remotely stupid my friend, nor do I know why you came at me to begin with??  My points are valid... Congrats on making gh15's football team btw. 

[Man of Steel]

Gooooooooo drug addiction!!!

[Khofo]

teaM gh15snbaté vs. Team insulin









VS

[BiGHer]

but this would not be a fair comparison because most of GH15 pupils take drugs while most of his haters are natural!!..

Yes!  See this is my problem... it's blind ignorance!  You have naturals accusing gh15 about what he prescribes as a drug protocol when they can't even speak from first hand experience about the use of drugs to begin with.  That's why I always say, let's take just 1 of these naturals, put him on gh15's protocol, and see if he isn't satisfied with the results.  I'd be curious to see if the person even has the will power to go back to being a natural.

[Man of Steel]

I'm a definite advocate of natural training and my position on the difference between the natties and juicers is quite clear:

I have lifted a lot more than that naturally and I don't look like a bb and never will cause I won't use.  See me at the local grocery store and many will think, "he's a big guy," but put me next to a juicebox with bb lines, density and low bodyfat and there's no comparison LOL!!

Without a doubt.  We look good in the gym, Walmart, Sears, family reunions, etc....., but in a truly competitive bb environment?  LOL!  We're just fat puds.

[Man of Steel]

Yes!  See this is my problem... it's blind ignorance!  You have naturals accusing gh15 about what he prescribes as a drug protocol when they can't even speak from first hand experience about the use of drugs to begin with.  That's why I always say, let's take just 1 of these naturals, put him on gh15's protocol, and see if he isn't satisfied with the results.  I'd be curious to see if the person even has the will power to go back to being a natural.

Do I want to look like Superman or the Incredible Hulk?  You bet!!  Will I use drugs in order to attain the look?  No I will not.  Will I attain that look without drugs?  No I will not.  Am I content with just achieving my natty best LOL?  You bet!!

[kiwiol]

I'm a definite advocate of natural training and my position on the difference between the natties and juicers is quite clear:

In Getbig, it's always either-or, no exceptions exist. Only juiced guys look muscular, natties always look like anorexic Ping Pong players. If someone has some muscle, they MUST BE juicing, but are liars. If you don't agree with gh15 on something, you are a hater etc.

[Meso_z]

lol ya everyone's first tren cough is special

I remember when I injected I literally was lying in bed saying to myself ok i'm going to dying ANY SECOND NOW then a couple mins later normal haha 

hahahahah! oh man what you brought to my memory..

first time it happened..I thought the same. "Its all over now"

...and started writing a note to family as fast as I could "before I die", while coughing....rofl what a tool. 

[Man of Steel]

In Getbig, it's always either-or, no exceptions exist. Only juiced guys look muscular, natties always look like anorexic Ping Pong players. If someone has some muscle, they MUST BE juicing, but are liars. If you don't agree with gh15 on something, you are a hater etc.

100% accurate.....also any natty with size is fat and if dieted down would look like a broomstick.

[dr.chimps]

LOL! There's not a single person who bashes gh15 that has put up their pics. And for good reason.

Ain't going to happen. Not in this space time continuum.

I've had my go at gh, and I think my pics are still around somewhere.

And teams!? Really. If you need a team for an internet message board, then you got some issues. C'mon, now.

[Man of Steel]

LOL! There's not a single person who bashes gh15 that has put up their pics. And for good reason.

Ain't going to happen. Not in this space time continuum.

I can't stand gh15's "pro drug addict" posts and criticize them often and I've put up pics all over the board.

[kiwiol]

I've had my go at gh, and I think my pics are still around somewhere.

And teams!? Really. If you need a team for an internet message board, then you got some issues. C'mon, now.

I'm starting "Team Say No to Teams". You in?

[BiGHer]

Do I want to look like Superman or the Incredible Hulk?  You bet!!  Will I use drugs in order to attain the look?  No I will not.  Will I attain that look without drugs?  No I will not.  Am I content with just achieving my natty best LOL?  You bet!!

We've had this convo before MOS and you know I respect your stance.  No problem with guys who enjoy Natty training.  Just an issue with knocking of those who don't.

[Man of Steel]

I'm starting "Team Say No to Teams". You in?

Let's call it the Owning Squad!!