No such thing as dying of "natural causes"

[Marty Champions]

why dont they say such and such died of cancer or blockage of heart valve due to lack of fruit intake, they wont say died of cardiac arrest they just tell the masses such and such died of natural causes what a crock of shit this world is. when are people gonna wake up to the lies

why do we let the doctors/big pharma/government lie to us

[DK II]

Johnny Falcon for president!

[Hulkotron]

Johnny how do you explain this observation:

(average human life expectancies around the world)

[Marty Champions]

seriously though i feel sorry for native africans i doubt they are anything like the african americans

[Agnostic007]

You're an idiot, but I'm a bigger idiot because I KNOW you're an idiot and I still click on threads you start...  

[Primemuscle]

Johnny how do you explain this observation:

(average human life expectancies around the world)

You do realize that life expectancy statistics are weighted by how many people die in infancy, childhood and young adulthood in a given area. Because the mortality rate is very high in Africa this lowers the average life span. If you are going to consider fair comparisons, compare the average lifespan in developed countries and then ask yourself what causes the difference between these countries. For example, why do Canadians live longer than folks in the U.S.?

[Marty Champions]

You're an idiot, but I'm a bigger idiot because I KNOW you're an idiot and I still click on threads you start... 

we're all just robots following the most likeable patterns

[The Grim Lifter]

You do realize that life expectancy statistics are weighted by how many people die in infancy, childhood and young adulthood in a given area. Because the mortality rate is very high in Africa this lowers the average life span. If you are going to consider fair comparisons, compare the average lifespan in developed countries and then ask yourself what causes the difference between these countries. For example, why do Canadians live longer than folks in the U.S.?

When you include Mortality how the fuck is Mexico so high

[Hulkotron]

You do realize that life expectancy statistics are weighted by how many people die in infancy, childhood and young adulthood in a given area. Because the mortality rate is very high in Africa this lowers the average life span. If you are going to consider fair comparisons, compare the average lifespan in developed countries and then ask yourself what causes the difference between these countries. For example, why do Canadians live longer than folks in the U.S.?

The Canada-US expectancy is 2.5 years (80.7 vs 78.3), that is hardly meaningful.  The "difference" is because they made the color cutoff at 80.0 years.

I have no idea what you mean by "fair comparison" or why you made this post really.  Thanks for giving a definition of "life span" I guess.

[Primemuscle]

why dont they say such and such died of cancer or blockage of heart valve due to lack of fruit intake, they wont say died of cardiac arrest they just tell the masses such and such died of natural causes what a crock of shit this world is. when are people gonna wake up to the lies

why do we let the doctors/big pharma/government lie to us

So, what do you consider a "natural cause"? If for example an eighty year old dies of congestive heart failure, is that a natural cause? How about someone ninety dying from pneumonia or the flu, are those natural causes? My point is we, all die of something sooner or later. How much sooner or later depends on a couple of things, such as one's genetic predisposition to good or bad health or how well one has taken care of their health throughout their lives.

[Primemuscle]

The Canada-US expectancy is 2.5 years (80.7 vs 78.3), that is hardly meaningful.  The "difference" is because they made the color cutoff at 80.0 years.

I have no idea what you mean by "fair comparison" or why you made this post really.  Thanks for giving a definition of "life span" I guess.

Good point. However, a fair good comparison is one that is made between developed countries where hoards of people aren't dying, often at very young ages, from common curable or treatable diseases, such as is the case in Africa. Another issue that sets Africa apart is that many people die of starvation there where that is fairly uncommon in developed countries. Most of the people today dying from AIDS are Africans because they do not have access to the drugs folks have in developed countries.

[Hulkotron]

Well if you control or adjust for everything that causes some people to die younger than others then I suppose the whole graph would be yellow, but then the statistic ceases to represent anything real or meaningful.

People die in Africa because it's by-and-large a 3rd-world shithole without enough medicine, food, jobs, money, clean water, clothing, shelter, and education to go around.  That is sort of the whole point.

[Coach is Back!]

why dont they say such and such died of cancer or blockage of heart valve due to lack of fruit intake, they wont say died of cardiac arrest they just tell the masses such and such died of natural causes what a crock of shit this world is. when are people gonna wake up to the lies

why do we let the doctors/big pharma/government lie to us

My we buried my grandmother a day before her 100th birthday. She's never had to be on any meds and only went to the doctors when she turned 98. She died of old age....it's natural.

[Radical Plato]

why do Canadians live longer than folks in the U.S.?

Do they live better?

[Radical Plato]

All deaths are caused by the process of birth.  Birth and Death are part of Nature - therefore all deaths come about as a causation of nature.

[dyslexic]

Insurance companies still say "acts of God" when referring to "natural" disasters... go figure.

[Tapeworm]

Insurance companies still say "acts of God" when referring to "natural" disasters... go figure.

Idk why but "Force Majeure" always cracked me up.

[20inch calves]

Johnny how do you explain this observation:

(average human life expectancies around the world)

thats pretty cool. i would say america's would even be higher if it wasn;t for the obesity epedimic

[dyslexic]

thats pretty cool. i would say america's would even be higher if it wasn;t for the obesity epedimic

America's is actually higher than the Almanac lets on. The obesity epidemic is evolving into a pandemic. Soon the parents will outlive their children due to all the side effects of morbid obesity.

Just a matter of time. Don't matter how much Arnie tries to change their lunches and  outlaw Soda Machines at Public Schools. It just makes the kids MORE rebellious to where they are buying twice the amount on their way to school with their *healthy* lunch money.

[Marty Champions]

So, what do you consider a "natural cause"? If for example an eighty year old dies of congestive heart failure, is that a natural cause? How about someone ninety dying from pneumonia or the flu, are those natural causes? My point is we, all die of something sooner or later. How much sooner or later depends on a couple of things, such as one's genetic predisposition to good or bad health or how well one has taken care of their health throughout their lives.

the point being is that it throws off vital statistics for knowledge seekers when docs/morg just classify many deaths as natural causes, they should be more specific

but truth being is that many times they dont even get the cause of death right, the fact is many times its too difficult to tell, and the easy way out is "death by natural causes" because the morg or people that determine cause of death is highly underfuned

[dragonfist]

why dont they say such and such died of cancer or blockage of heart valve due to lack of fruit intake, they wont say died of cardiac arrest they just tell the masses such and such died of natural causes what a crock of shit this world is. when are people gonna wake up to the lies

why do we let the doctors/big pharma/government lie to us

If you choked while eating a pincecone, would that be natural?

[Marty Champions]

If you choked while eating a pincecone, would that be natural?

choking related death thats even less words than death by natural causes

[dr.chimps]

The Canada-US expectancy is 2.5 years (80.7 vs 78.3), that is hardly meaningful.  The "difference" is because they made the color cutoff at 80.0 years.

I have no idea what you mean by "fair comparison" or why you made this post really.  Thanks for giving a definition of "life span" I guess.

A statistician, or actuarialist would see a 2.5 year difference as 'significant.' 

[PJim]

Johnny how do you explain this observation:

(average human life expectancies around the world)

Don't get me started on "do-gooders", the world's fucking full of them! I had a friend like that in School; he went to Africa to "help" the hungry....and they fucking ate him!

[Hulkotron]

A statistician, or actuarialist would see a 2.5 year difference as 'significant.'  

You can't establish significance, statistical or ecological, from a single number, "dr" chimps.  Don't lecture me on this shit.