Author Topic: Economists To GOP:Stop Cheering Bad Ecomomy Out Of Obama Hatred;Pass Jobs Bill!  (Read 3394 times)

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Aside from a (possible) comma, show me.  :)

Well, I'll allow Noah's Ark if we can drop Benny and 3.14 to the bottom of a Biblical abyss.
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Ha! Like a fish to water, 3.14 is chummed.  ;D

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LMFAO! !  !  ! ! ! ! !

The Democrats are ther ones who refuse to pass this mess. 

Yeah, lets give Obamadoff more money to piss away on more Solyndras.  Brilliant idea.   ::)  ::)  ::)
I see the sad PEA BRAIN fellow has entered the fray.

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Chu takes responsibility for a loan deal that put more taxpayer money at risk in Solyndra
By Carol D. Leonnig and and Joe Stephens, Published: September 29

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/chu-takes-responsibility-for-a-loan-deal-that-put-more-taxpayer-money-at-risk-in-solyndra/2011/09/29/gIQArdYQ8K_print.html




Energy Secretary Steven Chu acknowledged Thursday making the final decision to allow a struggling solar company to continue receiving taxpayer money after it had technically defaulted on a $535 million federal loan guaranteed by his agency.

Chu spokesman Damien La­Vera said in a statement that the secretary approved the restructuring agreement for Solyndra because it gave the company “the best possible chance to succeed in a very competitive marketplace and put the company in a better position to repay the loan.”

Also Thursday, a law enforcement official confirmed that the criminal probe of Solyndra is focused on whether the company and its officers misrepresented the firm’s finances to the government in seeking the loan or engaged in accounting fraud. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the probe.

On the political front, Chu’s admission came as some members of Congress were asking whether Chu went too far in trying to help the company before it went into bankruptcy, leaving taxpayers on the hook for the loan.

Chu, a Nobel laureate and physicist who came to the administration from academia, arrived in Washington with a mandate to push billions of dollars in stimulus funds into clean-energy companies and projects. With keen White House interest, Chu rode herd over an $80 billion showcase initiative that was supposed to spur a new “green” industry and economic growth.

Solyndra was the first company approved for a loan guarantee under the Obama administration; its application originated several years earlier during George W. Bush’s presidency. Early on, there were concerns about Solyndra’s finances, but the company was still endorsed by President Obama and received high-profile support from Chu. Both visited the firm at different press events. Chu flew to California to announce the loan approval at the groundbreaking for a $750 million factory that was built mostly with funds from the loan.

In announcing the Solyndra deal in March 2009, Chu boasted of the “speed at which the department can operate,” according to an agency news release.

“Secretary Chu initially set a target to have the first conditional commitments out by May . . . but today’s announcement significantly outpaces that aggressive timeline,” the release said.

In April 2010, the company’s auditors raised doubts about whether the company could continue as a “going concern” because of cash-flow problems. The following month, Obama visited the company to praise it as an “engine of growth.”

In late autumn of 2010, company executives confided to the Energy Department that they were running out of cash and could not make a required payment to a cash-reserve account. The company was supposed to begin making the first of $5 million payments to create a $30 million cash reserve on Dec. 1.

Solyndra officially defaulted on its loan that day. Chu approved a softening of the loan requirements so that the company could continue receiving loan installments.

“Ultimately, the choice was between imminent liquidation or giving the company and its workers a fighting chance to succeed,” LaVera said in the statement, first reported by Politico.

The agency authorized the Federal Financing Bank to give two additional cash installments to Solyndra — one in December 2010 and another in January 2011. Both payments came before Energy Department officials finalized a deal to restructure the loan and forestall the company’s collapse in late February.

On Capitol Hill, Republicans continued to complain Thursday that the Obama administration and Chu had not protected taxpayers.

“Why was the leadership at DOE so stubborn, ignoring every warning sign that Solyndra was a bad bet, continuing to throw good money after bad right up until Solyndra’s fate was sealed and taxpayers were left holding the bag on DOE’s $535 million bust?” said Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce oversight and investigations subcommittee.

Chu is tentatively scheduled to appear before the subcommittee next month. The House probe seeks to determine whether the White House sought to help Solyndra for political reasons. The nature of the separate criminal probe was first reported in an online story by Bloomberg News on Thursday evening. The leading private investors in Solyndra were investment funds tied to Oklahoma billionaire George Kaiser, a prominent fundraiser for Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign.

Some Democrats also have questioned Chu’s decision, including Rep. Henry A. Waxman (Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the Energy and Commerce Committee.

Rep. Gene Green (D-Tex.) said Thursday that he wants to know why Chu restructured Solyndra’s loan to put taxpayers behind a group of private investors to be repaid if the company went bankrupt. Two investors, including an equity fund tied to Kaiser, provided an additional $75 million to keep the company afloat.

“I guess I’m surprised that Secretary Chu made the decision earlier this year to give the private sector priority over the federal commitment, because your fiduciary duty is to the taxpayer, and not to an applicant. . . . Your responsibility is to the American people,” Green said.



Staff writer David A. Fahrenthold contributed to this report.


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And one can only imagine how much time you spend, thinking about hurting another guy's butt.
 

The buffoonery is on your end, O boneheaded one. The title of your thread has been shot to pieces. Reid has YET to bring up the bill and is in no hurry to do so. Durbin has stated that the Dems DO NOT have the vote to pass it in the Senate.

But, why let the facts stop you from your quest to replace Amber Lee Ettinger as the new Obama Girl?

Of course, he's not going anywhere. He'd rather hide here and wait until the mods move his thread, rather than go to the Political Forum and get beat down, as usual.


Fantastic contributions to this thread, Tobey!  ::)
At least you no longer run to Ron and beg for my posts to get deleted after I humiliate you for being a pathetic, boot-licking, handkerchief head. You've toughened up a bit...good for you!  :-\

As for the nonsensical post above, that shit scores as a "Grade A":


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Rep. Gene Green (D-Tex.) said Thursday that he wants to know why Chu restructured Solyndra’s loan to put taxpayers behind a group of private investors to be repaid if the company went bankrupt. Two investors, including an equity fund tied to Kaiser, provided an additional $75 million to keep the company afloat.

“I guess I’m surprised that Secretary Chu made the decision earlier this year to give the private sector priority over the federal commitment, because your fiduciary duty is to the taxpayer, and not to an applicant. . . . Your responsibility is to the American people,” Green said.




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yeah, lets give Obama more money to piss away on his Kenyanomics pipe dreams.   ::)  ::)  ::)

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Chu takes responsibility for a loan deal that put more taxpayer money at risk in Solyndra
By Carol D. Leonnig and and Joe Stephens, Published: September 29



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Here is your sign Benny!
Fantastic contribution!  ::)
How will I ever recover?  :-\

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No - it shows why no one, including the Senate democrats, refuse to pass obamas "jobs" bill.

He has shown himself reckeless, incompetent, foolish, and probably criminal in how he treats tax dollars.    

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whats with the copy and pasting boys, think for yourselves, benny posted an article and you just post other copy and paste in return?  Think for yourselves you fools.

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Fantastic contributions to this thread, Tobey!  ::)
At least you no longer run to Ron and beg for my posts to get deleted after I humiliate you for being a pathetic, boot-licking, handkerchief head. You've toughened up a bit...good for you!  :-\

As for the nonsensical post above, that shit scores as a "Grade A":




Much like the title of this thread, your recent posts continue to be full of bull.

One, only in your pathetic pipe dreams have you humiliated me about anything.

Two, I've never run to Ron for anything, regarding your pitiful little quips. The fact is your BS often gets deleted BEFORE I even get a chance to crack you over the head. I hit "Post"; I get the message that your little whinefest is gone.

Three, you're the one running. You hide here on G&O, because you keep getting your clock cleaned on the Political forum. I called you out nearly a week ago. And all I got was that yellow streak down your back. I'm sure the mods will move this thread and once they do, you will flee like the spineless sap that you are.


Four, try addressing the actual issue. WHY is Reid dragging his feet on a bill Obama wants passed yesterday? Why does Durbin keep crying about not having the votes to pass this precious bill?


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whats with the copy and pasting boys, think for yourselves, benny posted an article and you just post other copy and paste in return?  Think for yourselves you fools.



Here is thought moron - Obama already pissed away TRILLIONS of dollars with no effect but to make matters worse. 

Why should we even consider giving him another 5oo billion to piss away on his phony failed scams and schemes?

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whats with the copy and pasting boys, think for yourselves, benny posted an article and you just post other copy and paste in return?  Think for yourselves you fools.



DO YOU REALLY THINK Benny conjured up that mess on his own? He copied and pasted just like everyone else. The only difference is that he didn't cite his source. But, instead of using the original title, he concocted this foolishness, which has since been summarily dismembered.

"Benny just posted an article.." And from where do you think he got that article?

Perhaps, you should ask him why Reid, Durbin, and other Democrats won't touch this bill, despite his yapping about the Republicans (as if Obama didn't know well in advance that this bill has almost no chance in hell of passing).

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Get a life bud, and stop derailing this thread with your drivel.
This thread sucks anyway, the world is going down the shitter...   blah  blah   blah.......  Heard it b4
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Here is thought moron - Obama already pissed away TRILLIONS of dollars with no effect but to make matters worse. 

Why should we even consider giving him another 5oo billion to piss away on his phony failed scams and schemes?

That would require his thinking for himself, instead of parroting the Obama-cheerleader's mantra.

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So much for the GOP holding up Obama's precious jobless bill.

The jobs plan that couldn’t




“I am sending this Congress a plan that you should pass right away. It’s called the American Jobs Act. There should be nothing controversial about this piece of legislation. Everything in here is the kind of proposal that’s been supported by both Democrats and Republicans — including many who sit here tonight. And everything in this bill will be paid for. Everything. (Applause.)”

That’s what President Obama told lawmakers Sept. 8 in a hastily called joint session of Congress. But it was — and is — a flat-out lie, and Mr. Obama knows it.

He has since then traveled the country to pitch the plan, exclusively to partisan Democratic crowds that whoop and cheer at the brilliance of it all. He even got wealthy donors to chant “pass this bill!” even though it substantially raises taxes.

Now, however, we are beginning to see the truth behind the fiction. Not only is the president’s job bill not “the kind of proposal that’s been supported by both Democrats and Republicans,” it’s not even the kind of proposal that Democrats can currently support.

On Monday, senators passed a bill to keep the government open into the next fiscal year and then headed out on vacation for the rest of the week. Majority Leader Harry Reid said when they return they’ll get back to work — not on the jobs bill, but on a measure to punish China over its currency valuation. Mr. Reid said that bill is a bigger priority right now.

There’s a story making the rounds in Washington that explains Mr. Reid’s dyspeptic countenance. On a secret meeting at the White House after the debt-ceiling deal collapsed (mainly because Mr. Obama doubled the amount of taxes he wanted), the president sat with the top Republican and Democrat from both the House and Senate. They offered a deal, one that all four agreed on and that all four vowed could get through the two chambers.

Mr. Obama nixed it. In one version of the story, a peeved Mr. Reid said, “I’m not going to do anything for that [expletive] again.”

By the end of the week, Democrats were in open revolt. Senate Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat, asked whether his party had the votes to pass the president’s bill, said flatly: “Not at the moment, I don’t think we do, but, uh, we can work on it.” He added: “We’re not going to have 100 percent of Democratic senators [support the bill], that’s why it needs to be bipartisan.”

The reason is simple: Democrats in the House and Senate stand for re-election in just 13 months, and their campaigns will be difficult enough without raising taxes just before voters go to the polls. Said a blunt Mr. Durbin: “There are some senators who are up for election who say ‘I’m never gonna vote for a tax increase while I’m up for election, even on the wealthiest people.’ “

Makes sense. It’s a hard sell for lawmakers if they pass the bill, which would raise taxes by $467 billion on wealthier Americans and corporations.

And Mr. Obama knew that when he delivered his big speech last month. His strategy is clear (if simple-minded): blame Congress for the mess America’s in. But in so doing, he has caught up his fellow Democrats who, pressed to the wall, are fully prepared to bail on him and save their own skins. They want no part of the amateurish strategy to try to blame Congress, half-controlled by Democrats.

In fact, even some of the most rabidly liberal Democrats are planning to abandon the president because they see he’s only interested in saving his job, not theirs. More, Mr. Obama is throwing his former Senate colleagues under the bus as he scrambles to win another term.

So, this jobs bill is dead. And no matter how many times Mr. Obama repeats the lie that his “is the kind of proposal that’s been supported by both Democrats and Republicans,” it will be House Republicans who write a bill that can actually pass the Senate.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/2/curl-the-jobs-plan-that-couldnt/

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isn't it a great message to send to the middle class and poor that the GOP is willing to make them suffer by not passing the jobs bill that most economist's say will work?  All they are worried about is pleasing their bosses the corporations.

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isn't it a great message to send to the middle class and poor that the GOP is willing to make them suffer by not passing the jobs bill that most economist's say will work?  All they are worried about is pleasing their bosses the corporations.



THE DEMS DON'T HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS THIS MESS IN THE SENATE. I've posted that at least TWICE, on this thread and elsewhere. What exactly is the message that the DEMOCRATS are sending to the middle class?

This bill is poison to Democrats who are up for re-election next year. And they've long deduced that they need to worry about saving their own behind and let Obama crash and burn on his own.

But, just in case you missed it, here it is yet again....


Obama Calls on Congress to Pass Jobs Bill, Not 'Now' But This Month


President Obama on Monday abandoned his "pass this bill now" mantra, and instead called on Congress to vote on his jobs legislation this month, saying he will press legislative leaders from both parties to act quickly on the $447 billion proposal he delivered three weeks ago.

Speaking to reporters at the beginning of a Cabinet meeting Monday, Obama said he is waiting for the plan to return to his desk.

"It's been several weeks now since I sent up the American Jobs Act and as I've been saying on the road I want it back; I'm ready to sign it. My expectation is that now that we're in the month of October we'll schedule a vote before the end of this month," he said.

Obama's plan would reduce payroll taxes on workers and employers, extend benefits to long-term unemployed people, spend money on public works projects and help states and local governments keep teachers, police officers and firefighters on the job. He would pay for the plan with tax increases on high-earning Americans and by closing corporate loopholes in an effort to generate $2 trillion in revenues.

Obama said his administration will do whatever he can to stimulate job growth without Congress' help, but "ultimately, they've got to do the right thing for the American people."

House Speaker John Boehner's spokesman responded that the GOP is prepared to work across the aisle "as soon as possible" but that cooperation is a two-way street.

"We'd like to work with the president where we can find common ground, as well as discuss other ideas that will better support job creation," said Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck. "In the meantime, we continue to pass jobs bills, including two regulatory reform bills scheduled for this week that have bipartisan support."

Buck added that the president's proposed tax increases face bipartisan opposition in the GOP-led House and in the Democrat-run Senate.

During his briefing, Obama called on congressional Republicans to spell out what aspects of his plan they agree with and which they reject. Buck responded that the GOP has already ceded to the president's request that it articulate the parts of the bill that House Republicans will not support.

"We actually weeks ago put out a memo that outlines the parts we thing we can work together on and the parts we probably won't be able to," he said, offering a link to the GOP position.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/03/obama-calls-on-congress-to-pass-jobs-bill-not-now-but-this-month/

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Yes they do, yes they do, just not the house which is filled with new young brats that don't know how to compromise and get things done.  Treason is a good word to describe what those tea party idiots do.

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Yes they do, yes they do, just not the house which is filled with new young brats that don't know how to compromise and get things done.  Treason is a good word to describe what those tea party idiots do.



No that would be obama and holder running guns over the border. 

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Yes they do, yes they do, just not the house which is filled with new young brats that don't know how to compromise and get things done.  Treason is a good word to describe what those tea party idiots do.



No, they don't. We've seen Reid in action. If he had the votes, this would have been passed(or at least brought up) in the Senate by now. We all saw how he acted with ObamaCare. The instant he got 60, he sprung into action and brought ObamaCare to the Senate floor.

Shumer said they don't have the votes. Durbin said they don't have the votes. Why don't you deal with the reality of the situation, instead of barking the usual Obama-slobbering excuse-making?