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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2011, 04:23:21 PM »
I just lean far enough to one side to keep the db off my body and swing it until it has enough momentum and swing them onto the front of my leg, usually 2-3 swings.

The other option is to rerack after each set and place the bench directly in front of the db's you are using so you can put them on your quads as you unrack them.
Im a little bitch. I can press them but barely manage to carry them or rack them, plus not having a rack designed for weight that heavy doesn't help so im a drop and roller. They have to keep them on the floor. I got to a rag tag gym with a mishmash of equipment so im not that fortunate. I'll have to play with that but im tired of having to ask for a spotter when i lift them.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2011, 04:28:38 PM »
Im a little bitch. I can press them but barely manage to carry them or rack them, plus not having a rack designed for weight that heavy doesn't help so im a drop and roller. They have to keep them on the floor. I got to a rag tag gym with a mishmash of equipment so im not that fortunate. I'll have to play with that but im tired of having to ask for a spotter when i lift them.
I know it's blasphemy but maybe you can set them on a second bench perched in front of the bench you're using? Or just have some tiny tit push them in front of your leg while you stand with them instead of lifting them for you.
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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2011, 09:23:42 PM »
lots of big bros sharing tips on how to use massive dumbells weights in this thread tonite
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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2011, 01:59:22 AM »
Seriously bro, his statement is not that far off, although I agree with you he certainly isn't the strongest, but I think he could have been if he trained for powerlifting instead of bodybuilding.
800 lb Deads for 2 reps when the world record at the time was only 925 and with very low bodyfat. Put thirty pounds of water and fat and have him focus on deads for 6 months religiously, he could have easily smashed the 925 world record.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2011, 02:15:12 AM »
Coleman was Very Strong.

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« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2011, 02:33:14 AM »
Coleman was Very Strong.


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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2011, 02:45:18 AM »
Seriously bro, his statement is not that far off, although I agree with you he certainly isn't the strongest, but I think he could have been if he trained for powerlifting instead of bodybuilding.
800 lb Deads for 2 reps when the world record at the time was only 925 and with very low bodyfat. Put thirty pounds of water and fat and have him focus on deads for 6 months religiously, he could have easily smashed the 925 world record.

He never did 2 reps with 800. He did 1.5 rep, 1 rep in deadlift is from dead position. No bouncing and shit.

I don't think he could have touched 925 deadlift honestly. There are many guys who can deadlift 360kg. After 380kg it gets tricky usually and there are only few guys deadlifting 400kg.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2011, 06:22:17 AM »
Im a little bitch. I can press them but barely manage to carry them or rack them, plus not having a rack designed for weight that heavy doesn't help so im a drop and roller. They have to keep them on the floor. I got to a rag tag gym with a mishmash of equipment so im not that fortunate. I'll have to play with that but im tired of having to ask for a spotter when i lift them.


I think bb.com have some clips you can hook to barbells to put the db on.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2011, 06:26:31 AM »
He never did 2 reps with 800. He did 1.5 rep, 1 rep in deadlift is from dead position. No bouncing and shit.

I don't think he could have touched 925 deadlift honestly. There are many guys who can deadlift 360kg. After 380kg it gets tricky usually and there are only few guys deadlifting 400kg.

How come you don't think he could do it?

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2011, 06:33:55 AM »
He never did 2 reps with 800. He did 1.5 rep, 1 rep in deadlift is from dead position. No bouncing and shit.

I don't think he could have touched 925 deadlift honestly. There are many guys who can deadlift 360kg. After 380kg it gets tricky usually and there are only few guys deadlifting 400kg.

he's somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 weeks and doing maximum lifts while other guys are doing maintenance exercises.  in his day if he had taken 6 mths off for PLing, i'm sure he'd get 925 at 317bls or whatever he was during the off-season.  but again, ronnie was a bber, and still put some limits on his lifts, not to get hurt.   in 2006 he didn't listen to his body. 

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2011, 06:49:25 AM »
Ronnie's need to lift like a powerlifter ended his career early.  I'm sure he did it because he enjoyed it and wouldn't have changed a thing, but Ronnie without nerve damage and muscle tears could have kept winning Olympias. 

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2011, 06:49:57 AM »
I just lean far enough to one side to keep the db off my body and swing it until it has enough momentum and swing them onto the front of my leg, usually 2-3 swings.

The other option is to rerack after each set and place the bench directly in front of the db's you are using so you can put them on your quads as you unrack them.
I even put the set of dbs I'm using on on top the bottom row of dbs. Saves you a lot of wear and tear.  

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2011, 12:00:18 PM »
Seriously bro, his statement is not that far off, although I agree with you he certainly isn't the strongest, but I think he could have been if he trained for powerlifting instead of bodybuilding.
800 lb Deads for 2 reps when the world record at the time was only 925 and with very low bodyfat. Put thirty pounds of water and fat and have him focus on deads for 6 months religiously, he could have easily smashed the 925 world record.

Of course Ronnie could have become a contender at an Elite level, but please don't add well over 100 pounds to the man's deadlift with just some water and fat weight. There is a MASSIVE difference between 800 and 925 pounds.

The deadlift record was well over 925 at that time, too (hell, a 218-pound Ed Coan Sumo pulled 901 almost 20 years ago). And let's not forget Coleman is using wrist wraps when he pulls the double.

Oh, and many top BBs are strongest before a show as they're often on the greatest amount of sauce.


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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2011, 12:08:18 PM »
Of course Ronnie could have become a contender at an Elite level, but please don't add well over 100 pounds to the man's deadlift with just some water and fat weight. There is a MASSIVE difference between 800 and 925 pounds.

The deadlift record was well over 925 at that time, too (hell, a 218-pound Ed Coan Sumo pulled 901 almost 20 years ago). And let's not forget Coleman is using wrist wraps when he pulls the double.

Oh, and many top BBs are strongest before a show as they're often on the greatest amount of sauce.



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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2011, 12:09:50 PM »
I don't care enough to go back and quote it but lol @ the guy who thinks Ronnie could press 300-lb dumbells for a couple reps.

Reminds me of those guys at the gym who press 225 for 8 with their platonic lifting partner rowing the last two off their chest and go around saying their max is 350.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2011, 12:17:19 PM »
Could have, should have, would have....all opinions and the facts show different.

Opinions are not facts.
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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2011, 12:18:35 PM »
Of course Ronnie could have become a contender at an Elite level, but please don't add well over 100 pounds to the man's deadlift with just some water and fat weight. There is a MASSIVE difference between 800 and 925 pounds.

The deadlift record was well over 925 at that time, too (hell, a 218-pound Ed Coan Sumo pulled 901 almost 20 years ago). And let's not forget Coleman is using wrist wraps when he pulls the double.

Oh, and many top BBs are strongest before a show as they're often on the greatest amount of sauce.


First of all, NO, the record was NOT more then 925, look it up
Second, don't be such a simpleton, 30lb of fat and water? really that would be the only difference, how about dealifting 12 times a month instead of only 3 times?, easily could have smashed the record.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2011, 12:26:15 PM »
I don't care enough to go back and quote it but lol @ the guy who thinks Ronnie could press 300-lb dumbells for a couple reps.

Reminds me of those guys at the gym who press 225 for 8 with their platonic lifting partner rowing the last two off their chest and go around saying their max is 350.
I was that guy.....   the guy who probably knows more about training and heavy weight than a lot of people
i read somewhere ronnie pressed 250 for reps...hence why i made the statement
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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2011, 12:29:26 PM »
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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2011, 12:33:02 PM »


Didn't ronnie say anything past 200lbs db is very awkward to balance

these are the 250lbs at ronnies gym...



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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2011, 12:33:30 PM »
You guys give so much respect to people who can lift heavy weights because they inject particular hormones and they were born with lifting genetics, who gives a shit, ronnie is the man because of his attitude not because he could lift 200 pound dumbbells 12 times

you're right about the attitude, wrong about the lifts

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #72 on: October 03, 2011, 12:40:29 PM »
I don't even like cleaning 120's to shoulder then sitting down with them since I hurt my wrist. Kinda irrational fear to try them now.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #73 on: October 03, 2011, 12:42:21 PM »
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remember those weights were fake, so says some getbiggers.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #74 on: October 03, 2011, 12:45:17 PM »
First of all, NO, the record was NOT more then 925, look it up
Second, don't be such a simpleton, 30lb of fat and water? really that would be the only difference, how about dealifting 12 times a month instead of only 3 times?, easily could have smashed the record.

What federation, champ? You do know there are approximately 900 powerlifting feds, right?

It's hilarious how some of you think there isn't much difference between an 800-pound pull and a 925. At this amount of weight, such an increment is HUGE.