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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2011, 12:46:42 PM »
Ronnie is one strong ass mofo.

"That's one 100-pound and 10 45-pound plates." On a T-Bar. Seriously WTF?

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2011, 12:50:55 PM »
Oh, and just to clarify: there are now TWO men who can pull 1,000 and above. Two.

But, yeah, Ronnie, with just some more fat, water and specificity training over several months, could pull 925.  ::)

Look, Ronnie was a freak of strength, sure, but let's keep shit on the level of reality.

Very, VERY, very few men are capable of pulling over 900, and those who can and do, usually have trained specifically for such a pursuit for many, many years and use boatloads of drugs ... obviously.

Coleman pulling two with wrist straps is totally amazing. However, I am quite certain the man was on as much sauce at that time as he'd ever been on, or would ever be on again.

Again, reality, people.  

 

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2011, 12:57:40 PM »
What federation, champ? You do know there are approximately 900 powerlifting feds, right?

It's hilarious how some of you think there isn't much difference between an 800-pound pull and a 925. At this amount of weight, such an increment is HUGE.
It s also hilarious how you think going from 3times a month dead to 12 times a month deads wouldnt add 15% in 6 months, also hilarious how you think there is no differance in strength from 6% bodyfat to 12%, also hilarious how you think a persons 1 rep max is also his 2 rep max, it's also hilarious how you make fun of people and say they dont know whay they are talking about when you refuse to believe that not 1 man exceeded 925 regardless of federation..............

it's also hilarious how I'm ranting away like an idiot ;D

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2011, 01:17:47 PM »
Ronnie is one strong ass mofo.

"That's one 100-pound and 10 45-pound plates." On a T-Bar. Seriously WTF?
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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2011, 01:25:43 PM »

Didn't ronnie say anything past 200lbs db is very awkward to balance

these are the 250lbs at ronnies gym...




Damn, those are like road rollers. Even standing with them let your delts and forarms cry.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2011, 01:27:23 PM »
Damn, those are like road rollers. Even standing with them let your delts and forarms cry.
I think heavy db's are great.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2011, 01:28:37 PM »
I think heavy db's are great.

My favorite tools in the gym!

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #82 on: October 03, 2011, 01:30:28 PM »
It s also hilarious how you think going from 3times a month dead to 12 times a month deads wouldnt add 15% in 6 months, also hilarious how you think there is no differance in strength from 6% bodyfat to 12%, also hilarious how you think a persons 1 rep max is also his 2 rep max, it's also hilarious how you make fun of people and say they dont know whay they are talking about when you refuse to believe that not 1 man exceeded 925 regardless of federation..............

it's also hilarious how I'm ranting away like an idiot ;D

What are you on about?

The deadlift, from a powerlifting standpoint, shouldn't be trained more than once each week, MAX. Some of the very best deadlifters work the lift only once or twice in a month. It is extremely taxing on the system, unlike any other exercise, including squat. Why do you think competitors stop pulling as much as one month out from a meet?

I was the one who said the record at the time of Ronnie's two reps was far greater than 925. Are you on crack? What you suggest I said is the exact opposite of what I did say. What a tosser.

Listen, to think Coleman would have an easy time putting over 100 pounds onto his 800-pound pull is pure lunacy. Could he have done it? Possibly, sure. But even if he could have, it wouldn't have been easy. Not in the slightest.

In many ways, extra bodyweight can hinder deadlifting performance. It's not uncommon for powerlifters to move up a weight class and, if not lose weight on the bar, at least not gain all that much. It isn't like squat and bench where extra bodyweight GREATLY enhances performance.

To suggest a 365-pound Ronnie would immediately deadlift 900 pounds because he pulled (with wrist straps) 800 for two at 325 or whatever is nonsense. Especially when one considers, as I said, the man was on ungodly amounts of sauce when he did that videotaped pull.




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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #83 on: October 03, 2011, 01:30:42 PM »
Can someone explain to me how these guys get the db up on their knee without their shoulder popping loose? I use the heaviest dbs in my gym (140s) and i have to have help putting them on my knees. Everytime i swing it forward i feel like my shoulder is going to rip loose. Maybe its because of my bird joints and it will be a problem ill always have. Anything past 120 i need help with.

I just deadlift them to my knee level and then sit back on the bench, now they are on my knees.

you can't do that you are saying ?

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #84 on: October 03, 2011, 01:34:04 PM »
Big Nasser El-Snbt has two gym-bitches who do this "pick up the dumbells" shit for him.

I was that guy.....   the guy who probably knows more about training and heavy weight than a lot of people
i read somewhere ronnie pressed 250 for reps...hence why i made the statement


Yes I'm sure you're an expert in the dynamics of pressing 300 pounds in each hand ::)

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #85 on: October 03, 2011, 01:47:08 PM »
What are you on about?

The deadlift, from a powerlifting standpoint, shouldn't be trained more than once each week, MAX. Some of the very best deadlifters work the lift only once or twice in a month. It is extremely taxing on the system, unlike any other exercise, including squat. Why do you think competitors stop pulling as much as one month out from a meet?

I was the one who said the record at the time of Ronnie's two reps was far greater than 925. Are you on crack? What you suggest I said is the exact opposite of what I did say. What a tosser.

Listen, to think Coleman would have an easy time putting over 100 pounds onto his 800-pound pull is pure lunacy. Could he have done it? Possibly, sure. But even if he could have, it wouldn't have been easy. Not in the slightest.

In many ways, extra bodyweight can hinder deadlifting performance. It's not uncommon for powerlifters to move up a weight class and, if not lose weight on the bar, at least not gain all that much. It isn't like squat and bench where extra bodyweight GREATLY enhances performance.

To suggest a 365-pound Ronnie would immediately deadlift 900 pounds because he pulled (with wrist straps) 800 for two at 325 or whatever is nonsense. Especially when one considers, as I said, the man was on ungodly amounts of sauce when he did tha videotaped pull.




You keep bringing up how much juice Ronnie was on. Like the powerlifter's who set the records arent on all kinds of stuff?

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2011, 01:52:06 PM »
What are you on about?

The deadlift, from a powerlifting standpoint, shouldn't be trained more than once each week, MAX. Some of the very best deadlifters work the lift only once or twice in a month. It is extremely taxing on the system, unlike any other exercise, including squat. Why do you think competitors stop pulling as much as one month out from a meet?

I was the one who said the record at the time of Ronnie's two reps was far greater than 925. Are you on crack? What you suggest I said is the exact opposite of what I did say. What a tosser.
Listen, to think Coleman would have an easy time putting over 100 pounds onto his 800-pound pull is pure lunacy. Could he have done it? Possibly, sure. But even if he could have, it wouldn't have been easy. Not in the slightest.

In many ways, extra bodyweight can hinder deadlifting performance. It's not uncommon for powerlifters to move up a weight class and, if not lose weight on the bar, at least not gain all that much. It isn't like squat and bench where extra bodyweight GREATLY enhances performance.

To suggest a 365-pound Ronnie would immediately deadlift 900 pounds because he pulled (with wrist straps) 800 for two at 325 or whatever is nonsense. Especially when one considers, as I said, the man was on ungodly amounts of sauce when he did tha videotaped pull.




I obviously made a typo. the deadlift record was not over 925, so you are the one that said it was and you where wrong and still wrong, are you on crack. In a recent interview with Benedikt Magnussan, the world record holder, he says he deadlifts 3 times a week, again your lack of research is showing

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #87 on: October 03, 2011, 01:53:03 PM »
You keep bringing up how much juice Ronnie was on. Like the powerlifter's who set the records arent on all kinds of stuff?

You know it's interesting point you make , I wonder what the differences in drug regimens are

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2011, 02:14:58 PM »
You know it's interesting point you make , I wonder what the differences in drug regimens are
We need to post a pic of a top powerlifter so GH15 can tell us exactly what he's on.  ;D

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #89 on: October 03, 2011, 02:20:46 PM »
We need to post a pic of a top powerlifter so GH15 can tell us exactly what he's on.  ;D

LMFAO


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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #90 on: October 03, 2011, 03:07:29 PM »
bodyweight doesnt help with deadlifts as much as it does squats and the bench,example ed coan pulled 900 at 220,then moved up to the 242#class and even the 275#class briefly and while his squat and bench went uo considerably he never pulled 900# again.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #91 on: October 03, 2011, 03:57:59 PM »
You keep bringing up how much juice Ronnie was on. Like the powerlifter's who set the records arent on all kinds of stuff?

Of course they are. I don't say what I do about Ronnie's use as a way to exclude the use by strength athletes. If you don't understand why I make the comment, than what can I do? You simply don't understand much.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #92 on: October 03, 2011, 04:01:43 PM »
I obviously made a typo. the deadlift record was not over 925, so you are the one that said it was and you where wrong and still wrong, are you on crack. In a recent interview with Benedikt Magnussan, the world record holder, he says he deadlifts 3 times a week, again your lack of research is showing

What a fucktard. There were top powerlifters pulling over 925 at that time, man. Like I say in another post much earlier, Coan yanked 901 at 219 pounds bodyweight almost 20 friggin' years ago. Are you only looking at one federation's records or something?

And, yes, Benedikt ... Does he pull three times each week FROM THE FLOOR?

Regardless, I never said there aren't lifters who do unusual (less practiced) routines, did I? No, I did not.

Fuck sakes.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #93 on: October 03, 2011, 04:23:27 PM »
Of course they are. I don't say what I do about Ronnie's use as a way to exclude the use by strength athletes. If you don't understand why I make the comment, than what can I do? You simply don't understand much.
Your logic is so flawed its not even funny,your theory works against you so badly, let me explain; everyone knows there are certain compounds that add strength and a lot more that apply to physique only which Coleman took in abundance, now if you factor in the 75% of his arsenol is not strength related and therefore elimated, he can therefore increase the compounds that increase strength dramatically, but this of course won't bring up hs deads, cause according to you nothing will, how are you going to argue this

You already are makng a fool of yourself when not sdmitting that he did these feats of strength not living like a powerlifter and that if he went to powerlifting lifestyle religiously he would not change, like saying an a somone that hasn't trained in mma beats up a top mma fighter with pure aggression and power, now he trains mma religiously but doesn't change, ::) give it up :-\

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #94 on: October 03, 2011, 04:26:09 PM »
What a fucktard. There were top powerlifters pulling over 925 at that time, man. Like I say in another post much earlier, Coan yanked 901 at 219 pounds bodyweight almost 20 friggin' years ago. Are you only looking at one federation's records or something?

And, yes, Benedikt ... Does he pull three times each week FROM THE FLOOR?

Regardless, I never said there aren't lifters who do unusual (less practiced) routines, did I? No, I did not.

Fuck sakes.
Now you are resorting to name call, OK you f-retard I can do that too, prove tome some was pulling more then 925 at that time you reatrd, you know nothing about this if you don't even know that

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #95 on: October 03, 2011, 04:33:00 PM »
Now you are resorting to name call, OK you f-retard I can do that too, prove tome some was pulling more then 925 at that time you reatrd, you know nothing about this if you don't even know that

I can think of several early-to-mid 900s that were being pulled as far back as the mid-'90s. Hell, a quick scan of records on the 'net will yield the exact numbers.

Why do you think hitting a grand has been such a major thing for the past 30 years? Because SEVERAL HAVE COME SO CLOSE.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #96 on: October 03, 2011, 04:33:35 PM »
Your logic is so flawed its not even funny,your theory works against you so badly, let me explain; everyone knows there are certain compounds that add strength and a lot more that apply to physique only which Coleman took in abundance, now if you factor in the 75% of his arsenol is not strength related and therefore elimated, he can therefore increase the compounds that increase strength dramatically, but this of course won't bring up hs deads, cause according to you nothing will, how are you going to argue this

You already are makng a fool of yourself when not sdmitting that he did these feats of strength not living like a powerlifter and that if he went to powerlifting lifestyle religiously he would not change, like saying an a somone that hasn't trained in mma beats up a top mma fighter with pure aggression and power, now he trains mma religiously but doesn't change, ::) give it up :-\

Okay, you win.  ::)

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #97 on: October 03, 2011, 04:41:37 PM »
Now you are resorting to name call, OK you f-retard I can do that too, prove tome some was pulling more then 925 at that time you reatrd, you know nothing about this if you don't even know that
Everyone was talking about this when his video came out nearly ten years ago, 925 was record, magazines, internet boards everyone was talking about 925, it is well knowed until Andy Bolton came along dumbass

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #98 on: October 03, 2011, 04:42:11 PM »

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #99 on: October 03, 2011, 04:48:35 PM »
You know it's interesting point you make , I wonder what the differences in drug regimens are
test, anadrol, dbol, tren (or deca). In large amounts.