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GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« on: October 02, 2011, 11:46:57 AM »
  GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assesing bodyfat, and it comes back at 7.7% bodyfat. This is why I laugh my ass off at guys here claiming 3% bodyfat. Here is a professional athlete who has an extremely rigorous diet and performs physical exercise for up to 10 hours a day, every day, six days a week, and yet he has close to 8% bodyfat, and yet some Getbiggers claim 3% bodyfat in their photos. 12% is lean, 7% is elite professional athlete or professional bodybuilder in contest shape, 5% is elite professional marathoner, 4% is Auschwitz, and 3% is dead(Munzer).

  


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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 12:13:13 PM »
nice post-so basically a BBer cuts water to get to that 5% look or even some guys who weigh in for a MMA fight ?
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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2011, 12:15:16 PM »
you can't even see what he looks like...

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2011, 12:19:09 PM »
 GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assesing bodyfat, and it comes back at 7.7% bodyfat. This is why I laugh my ass off at guys here claiming 3% bodyfat. Here is a professional athlete who has an extremely rigorous diet and performs physical exercise for up to 10 hours a day, every day, six days a week, and yet he has close to 8% bodyfat, and yet some Getbiggers claim 3% bodyfat in their photos. 12% is lean, 7% is elite professional athlete or professional bodybuilder in contest shape, 5% is elite professional marathoner, 4% is Auschwitz, and 3% is dead(Munzer).

  


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Flex was tested at 0.0%  ;D

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2011, 12:24:31 PM »
nice post-so basically a BBer cuts water to get to that 5% look or even some guys who weigh in for a MMA fight ?

  There is no evidence that pro bodybuilders are anywhere beneath 7% bodyfat in contest shape. Most of those ridiculous measurements of 3% bodyfat or even 2% bodyfat(impossible) were obtained with calipers, which give a margin of error of about 5%. The only way to get a precise measurement of bodyfat is with hydrostatic weighting, or if you want extreme precision, magnetic ressoning imaging of your entire body. A measurement of 3% bodyfat obtained with calipers can mean actually 8%. Now, some bodybuilders in the absolute best shape ever probably did reach 5% bodyfat. I think Dorian Yates at the 1995 Olympia and 1996 German Grand Prix was at 5% bodyfat. Gustavo Baddel was at 5% bodyfat for sure at the 2004 Olympia. As for 3% bodyfat, the only bodybuilder to have ever truly measured at 3% bodyfat by hydrostatic weighting was Andreas Munzer, and he died a couple days after the contest for which he obtained this measure.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2011, 12:36:49 PM »
How precise is the bio-impedance method? I was measured with Bodystat equipment during a 10 week cutting period and came out on 4%

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2011, 12:39:57 PM »
How precise is the bio-impedance method? I was measured with Bodystat equipment during a 10 week cutting period and came out on 4%

  Extremely imprecise. You are talking about the one where an electric current goes through your biceps? That is garbage. It starts from the mistaken assumption that the amount of subcutaneous fat under the skin of yor biceps represents the amount of subcutaneous fat of your entire body. It doesen't. The biceps is usually a lot leaner than the rest of the body.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2011, 12:42:13 PM »
 GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assesing bodyfat, and it comes back at 7.7% bodyfat. This is why I laugh my ass off at guys here claiming 3% bodyfat. Here is a professional athlete who has an extremely rigorous diet and performs physical exercise for up to 10 hours a day, every day, six days a week, and yet he has close to 8% bodyfat, and yet some Getbiggers claim 3% bodyfat in their photos. 12% is lean, 7% is elite professional athlete or professional bodybuilder in contest shape, 5% is elite professional marathoner, 4% is Auschwitz, and 3% is dead(Munzer).

  


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Who here has claimed 3% in their photos?

I don't know of anyone.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2011, 12:47:09 PM »
What about all the clowns on here GH15 is saying are 6 - 10%

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 12:48:48 PM »
Who here has claimed 3% in their photos?

I don't know of anyone.

  Over the years, many have claimed 2% bodyfat. Yes, 2%. It is incredible. Your whole body enzymatic systems would collapse if you were at 2% bodyfat, and yet these guys survive and are stong enough to stand and post their pictures. It is incredible.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2011, 12:51:00 PM »
What about all the clowns on here GH15 is saying are 6 - 10%

  Yes, visual assesment is the most precise way to tell a guy's bodyfat percentage. I rest my case...many of the guys with six-packs posting pictures here are at 10% bodyfat, and some as low as 8%, but 6%? No.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2011, 12:52:53 PM »
 Extremely imprecise. You are talking about the one where an electric current goes through your biceps? That is garbage. It starts from the mistaken assumption that the amount of subcutaneous fat under the skin of yor biceps represents the amount of subcutaneous fat of your entire body. It doesen't. The biceps is usually a lot leaner than the rest of the body.

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No, this one had electrodes attached to my toes and fingers. I think it was one of their first lines since these measurement were taken in the early 90's. This technology has prob improved a lot the last two decades.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2011, 12:54:15 PM »
Lyle Mc Donald said that it's not possible for a man to get under 3% bodyfat and 9% for a women cause of the "essential" bodyfat wich is essential to live and can't be removed. This is the fat you can find in the brain for example.
I read it a long time ago so I'm not sure at 100% about the numbers.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2011, 01:02:35 PM »
Lyle Mc Donald said that it's not possible for a man to get under 3% bodyfat and 9% for a women cause of the "essential" bodyfat wich is essential to live and can't be removed. This is the fat you can find in the brain for example.
I read it a long time ago so I'm not sure at 100% about the numbers.

  Well, the fat in your brain and organs is obviously not included in bodyfat measurements: only subcutaneous fat counts. If you go by total fat content, Andreas Munzer when he measured at 3% bodyfat still had about 10% of his total bodyweight being fat.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2011, 01:10:10 PM »
The "bod pod" device is not the golden standard. Dexa-scan testing is. The bod pod is slightly less precise and on par with underwater hydrostatic testing.

Bio-impedence are the least precise method by a long shot.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2011, 01:14:22 PM »
The "bod pod" device is not the golden standard. Dexa-scan testing is. The bod pod is slightly less precise and on par with underwater hydrostatic testing.

Bio-impedence are the least precise method by a long shot.

  You have really bad reading comprehension. Read my post...I said that for an extremely precise measurement you need to do an MRI of your entire body. The hydrostatic weighting is slightly less precise, but still precise enough to still be regarded as the gold standard. The new gold standard will either use X-rays or MRI that can discriminate adipose tissue. The margin of error will be only about 0.2% bodyfat.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2011, 01:14:40 PM »
What about all the clowns on here GH15 is saying are 6 - 10%
He knows his drugs really well, but bodyfat measurements not so well. I wish his were right I would be one lean dude all the time.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2011, 01:17:01 PM »
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GSP doesn't have near the muscle mass of a bodybuilder in the first place, nor does he have nearly the same condition of a competing bodybuilder

useless thread, no offense


nobody here has claimed 3% bodyfat, some have claimed 5% (wich was bullshit for most)

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2011, 01:22:01 PM »
10 hrs a day 6 days a week... lol  ::)

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2011, 01:23:59 PM »
GSP doesn't have near the muscle mass of a bodybuilder in the first place,

  Completely irrelevant. We are talking about the amount of bodyfat relative to lean body mass. The total amount of muscle mass here is irrelvant.

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nor does he have nearly the same condition of a competing bodybuilder

  He looks more ripped than a lot of bodybuilders who mess up their conditioning. The ones who look more ripped do not look more ripped because they have less bodyfat, but because they are more dehydrated, have special oil applied to their skin which enhances muscle definition by increasing light reflection, and are under special stage lighting to enhance definition. Yo put GSP all oiled up and dehydrated like them under stage lights, and he will look more ripped than most bodybuilders.

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useless thread, no offense


  Useless brain you have. No offense. At least you have big muscles to make up for it, although your bodyfat has never been lower than 7%.

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nobody here has claimed 3% bodyfat, some have claimed 5% (wich was bullshit for most)

  You are a board noob, so you have no idea what people have claimed or not. I have been here for a total of almost 10 years, so I can tell you that many people have claimed 3% bodyfat over the years.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2011, 01:26:51 PM »
GSP is way leaner than the guys on here who claim 3-6%.

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2011, 01:42:04 PM »
 Completely irrelevant. We are talking about the amount of bodyfat relative to lean body mass. The total amount of muscle mass here is irrelvant.

Then would you mind explaining where the percentage comes from? If the numbers are relative to the lean body mass there should be in my mind a ratio, not a percentage. I was under the assumption that bf% is measured by the % of fat in your entire body mass.
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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2011, 01:55:15 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_measurement#Measurement_techniques

"A person's body fat percentage is the total weight of the person's fat divided by the person's weight...//"

This makes the total muscle mass very relevant.
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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2011, 01:57:26 PM »
BI is total bullshit

Depending on what time of day, a person can naturally hold very little or alot of water which will throw off the accuracy of Bioelectrical (sp) impednece


fact of the matter is that you get the most accurate reading from a six site body caliper reading

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Re: GSP: 7.7% bodyfat.
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2011, 01:58:20 PM »
btw, i left the spelling errors on the above post so you can see i didn't copy and paste my answer