At What Show Did Andreas Munzer Look His Best?

[Iceman1981]

Munzer is known for his conditioning. Anyone have pics of the contest he looked his best?

[doriancutlerman]

Munzer is known for his conditioning. Anyone have pics of the contest he looked his best?

I can't say for sure, but I do know he should've beaten Porter Cottrell at the 1993 NOC. 

[kiwiol]

I'd say the 95 Arnold Classic.

[el numero uno]

2001 Arnold Classic

[Papper]

brb restarting chrome because i cant see shit

[affeman]

I'd say when he placed 4th at the Arnolds. His conditioning was good, but never in the league of a Shawn Ray or Wheeler.

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'd say when he placed 4th at the Arnolds. His conditioning was good, but never in the league of a Shawn Ray or Wheeler.

              

[NarcissisticDeity]

In before someone posts the cadaver pic

[Papper]

munzer is a good exampe of how genetic abs really are.

for his level of shreddedness he didn't display overly defined and cut abs.

[NarcissisticDeity]

munzer is a good exampe of how genetic abs really are.

for his level of shreddedness he didn't display overly defined and cut abs.

all muscles are genetic , the allotment of muscle cells , shape , length , etc

[affeman]

all muscles are genetic , the allotment of muscle cells , shape , length , etc

Munzer must have had really bad genetics. Insane amount of drugs and never got over 220 or smth.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Munzer must have had really bad genetics. Insane amount of drugs and never got over 220 or smth.

Bad genetics?  worse conditioning than Shawn and Flex?  does not compute

[affeman]

Bad genetics?   worse conditioning than Shawn and Flex?   does not compute

You really think Munzer was able to hang with those guys? Idk.

And yes, he definetely had sub-par massbuilding genetics. That's why he had to overcompensate with insane amounts of drugs and still wasn't able to hang with the top guys mass-wise.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You really think Munzer was able to hang with those guys? Idk.

And yes, he definetely had sub-par massbuilding genetics. That's why he had to overcompensate with insane amounts of drugs and still wasn't able to hang with the top guys.

In terms of conditioning , I think Munzer blows them both away , in terms of shape and aesthetic NO he really doesn't compare

I mean massbuilding genetics? I mean you could say the same about Shawn Ray because he was light , but you can also say he didn't go to extremes as Munzer did , it's all speculation anyway. Andy had a nice combo of size and conditioning but to say he had sub-par genetics really isn't accurate maybe in terms of aesthetics sure but he was working to his strengths

[kiwiol]

ND, do you know if Labrada announced his retirement before the contest? I've always thought he might've been awarded 3rd place for that. It was close between him and AM in the 95 AC, but I'd have had no problem with them switching places.

[Papper]

all muscles are genetic , the allotment of muscle cells , shape , length , etc

Absolutely. I almost included a clause describing this but didn't because it's self explanatory, but I found it remarkable that his abs was not more defined given his extreme condition.

[OneMoreRep]

All this talk about Munzer's conditioning...

I've never been that impressed with his conditioning.  He is as shredded as most pros were back in the 80's.

Aside from that, I always thought he shape was "ok", possibly bordering on mediocre.

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[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, do you know if Labrada announced his retirement before the contest? I've always thought he might've been awarded 3rd place for that. It was close between him and AM in the 95 AC, but I'd have had no problem with them switching places.

I don't recall if it was before or after the contest he retired , good question. I have to try and find out.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Absolutely. I almost included a clause describing this but didn't because it's self explanatory, but I found it remarkable that his abs was not more defined given his extreme condition.

I think his abs look fine , no?

[NarcissisticDeity]

All this talk about Munzer's conditioning...

I've never been that impressed with his conditioning.  He is as shredded as most pros were back in the 80's.

Aside from that, I always thought he shape was "ok", possibly bordering on mediocre.

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His claim to fame was his striations which he had more than any other pro but you're right as far as dryness and density it wasn't that exceptional and his shape is what held him back in the pro ranks

[OneMoreRep]

His claim to fame was his striations which he had more than any other pro but you're right as far as dryness and density it wasn't that exceptional and his shape is what held him back in the pro ranks

Agreed.

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[Papper]

I think his abs look fine , no?

they're just fine, but imo a little flat (for his condition) in the shots ive just casually looked at.

[NarcissisticDeity]

they're just fine, but imo a little flat (for his condition) in the shots ive just casually looked at.

I see what you're saying , maybe just because he's not flexing them

[johnny1]

Munzer is known for his conditioning. Anyone have pics of the contest he looked his best?

Anatomy chart.