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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2011, 11:50:13 AM »
When poor morons get off their asses and succeed at making financial gains they all turn into republicans lol.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2011, 11:53:56 AM »
Haha yeah whatever..........BET doesn't create anything.  They create no wealth, no tangible assets.  He went to college and now he puts out a black television network so other lazy ass blacks can sit around and watch t.v. all day.  Wow you really achieved a lot in life.  Half your audience is probably on welfare you fucking loser! 

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2011, 11:58:32 AM »
the wealthy are not self made as some of their ego's would like to think.  They had all kinds of government support to help them get to where they were today.  Even the little things they do not think of.  This guy is delusional.  The rich are such a small portion of the population their voice doesn't matter.  Upping the tax rate to 39 percent when the economy thrived is only common sense.  The rich are just greedy, are they Christian too like you, read the Bible coach, what did it say about greed and the poor?



Shut up stupid. What part of "founder" did you miss in this story? How many JOBS did the FOUNDER create when he FOUNDED BET? jackass

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2011, 12:04:19 PM »
Shut up stupid. What part of "founder" did you miss in this story? How many JOBS did the FOUNDER create when he FOUNDED BET? jackass

I'm jealous of your 2 homes Coach and I'm going to do everything within my power to vote in as many liberals as possible so you and your real estate will be taxed more and the revenue be divided among the less fortunate.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 12:05:04 PM »
1) This guy is very credible because he is bashing obama.

2) when he endorsed obama in 2008, he was not credible.

In the cool republican standards, people are only credible on those days you agree with them :)

Thats because back in 2008 the many minions who couldn't see through his lies fell for it.....not so much now. He's a business man, he knows when he's getting fucked as opposed to people like JTsunami who still want shit for free.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2011, 12:07:11 PM »
I'm jealous of your 2 homes Coach and I'm going to do everything within my power to vote in as many liberals as possible so you and your real estate will be taxed more and the revenue be divided among the less fortunate.

yes...you hate America, we get it. Now move on junior.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2011, 12:09:46 PM »
Does it matter? They earned it. without them there would be less jobs.

Coach, you know I don't agree with redistributing wealth, but let's be honest here... Jobs are created because of need, the rich don't "make" jobs... They NEED people to manufacture a product to be sold, therefore they hire people to build those products because the rich single person can not do it alone.

There would not be "less jobs" without the rich, the job would still need to get done anyway.

Aside from that, Johnson is right.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 12:14:03 PM »
Coach, you know I don't agree with redistributing wealth, but let's be honest here... Jobs are created because of need, the rich don't "make" jobs... They NEED people to manufacture a product to be sold, therefore they hire people to build those products because the rich single person can not do it alone.

There would not be "less jobs" without the rich, the job would still need to get done anyway.

Aside from that, Johnson is right.

have you ever been hired by a poor person?

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2011, 12:15:33 PM »
have you ever been hired by a poor person?

Come on Joe, you are smarter than that.

Middle Class business owners hire people all of the time.

Do you hire people? Are you rich?


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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2011, 12:18:44 PM »
Bill Gates was thinking about buying a new car, but with only 2 billion in the bank, he's going to wait on a tax break before making the purchase.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2011, 12:20:05 PM »
have you ever been hired by a poor person?

You're missing the point you epic dumbass.  Value is created by labor.  It takes capital to put people to work.  But without labor there would never be any value created.  Capital and labor go hand in hand.  Go back and read a fucking book on capitalism.  Because you are clueless like most Americans.  And when most of us talk about rich we are not talking about small business owners who put people to work and who usually work in their business as well.  We are talking about the mega rich who sit back and trade stocks, derivatives etc.  They are not creating capital and they are not creating jobs.  They are simply redistributing wealth.  The stock market in general doesn't create wealth.......it doesn't create capital.  It's the LABORERS who create value from productive property which the rich own that creates wealth and value.  Why the fuck do you think our economy is imploding?  Because most of the wealth is in the form of numbers on a computer screen.  It means nothing.  There is only three ways to build true wealth via production.............. build it, grow it, and mine it.  If you're not doing one of those three things you'renot creating REAL tangible wealth and assets.  And the rich are hardly the ones building shit, growing shit, and mining shit.  

Capital is not "Money".  money has no worth really.  Capital is productive property.  Hence why ownership is such a cornerstone of freedom and liberty.  Owning stocks is not "capitalism".  Owning the means of production is.  

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2011, 12:20:28 PM »
So?  Nobody is born with the promise that somebody else is going to create them a job.  Either be happy with what you have or start your own business.  Nothing worse than having a lunch break with a bunch of douches who just complain that the owner is on vacation or out on the lake, while they make the money to allow them to do it.























We are an increasingly service oriented country. Said person who complains can start their own business, but it is hard as shit, and most are of the service industry...
And you need workers, and you have ro pay them...

Years ago, the IT industry was what college kids were getting their Bachelor's in, and then they started shipping the jobs overseas or training others (my aunt who was a manager for IBM was training Brazilians for her job---then she was axed).

It seems as though, Corporations don't want or hire Americans and pay them a salary in which they can live above the poverty line....
And then there is the Bizarro UAW who wants autoworker to make 75k for screwing bolts.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2011, 12:26:23 PM »
We are an increasingly service oriented country. Said person who complains can start their own business, but it is hard as shit, and most are of the service industry...
And you need workers, and you have ro pay them...

Years ago, the IT industry was what college kids were getting their Bachelor's in, and then they started shipping the jobs overseas or training others (my aunt who was a manager for IBM was training Brazilians for her job---then she was axed).

It seems as though, Corporations don't want or hire Americans and pay them a salary in which they can live above the poverty line....
And then there is the Bizarro UAW who wants autoworker to make 75k for screwing bolts.

We are increasingly a service oriented country because Americans own nothing.  They don't own their cars, they dont own their houses, they don't own any land.  Hell most people don't even own their fucking college education nowadays.  Like I said before all capitalism means in its basic sense is you own the means of production.  Meaning if you have a factory you pay laborers to produce something from a tangible resource.  You own a share of the labor and all the value created by that labor.  The laborers own nothing and their wage or salary is never a true indication of the value they create.....otherwise the capitalists i.e. the business or factory owners would never make any money.  

See the problem in America is most people, even the dumbass ones that cheerlead what they think is capitalism don't even really understand the difference between capital and labor.  The rich own all the land, they own all the resources in America.  So how the fuck are other Americans supposed to become capitalists?  They aren't.  They have been lied to.  Owning your own business doesn't make you a capitalist unless you are actually producing something.  Being a nurse, owning your own dog walking business, or whatever doesn't make you a capitalist.  Beign a farmer is in in every way a true pure form of capitalism.  hence why we were such an agrarian society back in the day.  Farming is a form of freedom and liberty.  There is nothing more free than to consume the food you grow yourself. 

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2011, 12:29:40 PM »
i bash repubs and dems equally as soulless pricks who serve in office only to keep their jobs and please their masters.

My beef is with people who freak out over little shit obama does - who completely defended all the bullshit bush did.

no you dont.  Who the hell you kidding? 

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2011, 12:34:52 PM »
gimmie a fucking break so who is going to take the hit if not the rich, is it the guy who cannot even put food on the table he is already starving, I hate those jerk offs who has more money than they can spend in this lifetime and they think they should not get hit.


This meme is the problem.  It's not the uber-rich that anyone is worried about.  It's the 200-250k/ year proposed definition of rich that gets fucked.
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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2011, 12:35:32 PM »
yet, BET could be soo much more than reruns and entertainment TV...which is why The Boondocks did a episode on it...
Another "Baby Boomer" who nothing more than a selfish prick...
Robert Johnson is a fantastic businessman.....I am tired of the black community calling him a sellout.....the real sellout is Barack Obama.....I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Johnson!!!

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2011, 12:38:14 PM »
Haha yeah whatever..........BET doesn't create anything.  They create no wealth, no tangible assets.  He went to college and now he puts out a black television network so other lazy ass blacks can sit around and watch t.v. all day.  Wow you really achieved a lot in life.  Half your audience is probably on welfare you fucking loser! 
sir.....you are wrong.....Mr. Johnson is a great man who has done fantastic things with BET....BET was sold to Viacom.....Johnson has no control over the channel any longer.....He started it in 1980 and it was a fine channel.....now things have become stale....but again....Johnson has been gone from BET for at least 10 years.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2011, 12:39:54 PM »
Great message, but lets face it Obama isn't going to listen to him.  He's going to continue to pander to his voting base......just like Bush did......just like Clinton did, etc, etc...
Obama is soooo arrogant.....he takes the cake.....Bush and Clinton have no arrogance compared to Barack and Michelle.....Nobama listens to no one......but himself.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2011, 12:40:03 PM »
This meme is the problem.  It's not the uber-rich that anyone is worried about.  It's the 200-250k/ year proposed definition of rich that gets fucked.

But that's the fucking problem.  My god $200K unfortunately isn't wealthy at all in my opinion.  That's upper middle class.  That's the bottom 90%.  I think the problem in America, because they are so good at hiding it, is that Americans have no fucking clue just how wealthy and rich the top 1% really is.  Donald Trump is chump change compared to the multi billionaries like the Walton family, Bill Gates, the Koch brothers, George Soros, the Breski family, the Rockefellers, Vanderbilts etc.  There are probably 60-100 families in the US that really own and control everything.  You look at the grain industry..............th e top 5 grain companies are privately owned.  Cargill is a private company and it's worth billions.  Americans are fucking clueless as to just how big the gap between the rich and poor really is.  The top billionaires need to be taxed upwards of 70% of their wealth.  Take Ted Turner for example.  No fucking way one fucking man or family should own millions upon millions of acres.  Why?  John Locke and Adam Smith never envisioned that as being a part of capitalism.  That's pure greed.  The founders envisioned people only taking and using what they needed.  And this is why they were so adamant about having sound money and against a private bank controlling our money supply.  The bankers have printed worthless money and bought everything up.  

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2011, 12:42:49 PM »
sir.....you are wrong.....Mr. Johnson is a great man who has done fantastic things with BET....BET was sold to Viacom.....Johnson has no control over the channel any longer.....He started it in 1980 and it was a fine channel.....now things have become stale....but again....Johnson has been gone from BET for at least 10 years.

So he's a corporate sell out.  4 companies pretty much control all of the US media from newspapers, to tv and cable to movies.  And Viacom is one of them.  And you wonder why our media is so fucking corrupt and biased.  They are owned by the rich and the corporations.  You're clueless.  Go educate yourself.  Viacom owns MTV.  And look at the complete garbage that TV station is and the shit it puts out there for kids to watch.    Mr Johnson is a corporate rich turd like Obama, like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Herman Cain.  These guys don't care about the Republic, they don't care about the Constitution, they could give two hershey squirts about you or me.  All they care about is money and power.  The rich negros are no different than the rich white old men.  

What's funny is black people can now never live down the fact that the first black President was a complete and utter failure.  LMAO!

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2011, 12:46:51 PM »
You tell me.....how did Johnson sell out???

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2011, 12:47:33 PM »
Obama is soooo arrogant.....he takes the cake.....Bush and Clinton have no arrogance compared to Barack and Michelle.....Nobama listens to no one......but himself.

I certainly agree with you.  The very first thought i had after the first time I saw Obama speak was "what an arrogant prick."  and the limousine libs who are really the ones who got him elected were just so blown away by how "articulate" he was.  Latent racism on their part, but that is another subject.

Churchill wasn't articulate, neither was Abe Lincoln or many of the founding fathers....I'll take a true leader any day over someone who talks a big game and delivers nothing.

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2011, 12:50:35 PM »
You tell me.....how did Johnson sell out???

By selling BET to Viacom.  Don't you see?  Don't you undersand or are you just another fucking clueless American lemming?  There are 4 or 5 corporations that CONTROL ALL THE MEDIA in the USA.  Viacom, Walt Disney, News Corps, CBS corporation and Time Warner.  It's akin to the small family farm selling out to Tyson Meats.  Or the local mom and pop bookstore selling out to Barnes and Noble.  Same principle.  

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2011, 12:51:48 PM »
I certainly agree with you.  The very first thought i had after the first time I saw Obama speak was "what an arrogant prick."  and the limousine libs who are really the ones who got him elected were just so blown away by how "articulate" he was.  Latent racism on their part, but that is another subject.

Churchill wasn't articulate, neither was Abe Lincoln or many of the founding fathers....I'll take a true leader any day over someone who talks a big game and delivers nothing.


This is the age of teleprompters.  Obama has been lost several times without one.  Ron Paul is not the best speaker case in point. 

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Re: BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy
« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2011, 12:53:22 PM »
This is the age of teleprompters.  Obama has been lost several times without one.  Ron Paul is not the best speaker case in point. 

Very true.  The days of anyone giving a meaningful, heartfelt speech are long over.  I would love to see a Cain/Paul ticket, but it will never happen.  FOX doesn't want it to.   :-\