Example of a good natural, 7-8 years of training maybe more

[Stavios]

5'10, about 180 lbs

lean but not that lean

impressive physique in the gym for the average gym members, women compliment him on his size
other dude compliment him on his ability to get compliments from women  

nobody says he is huge, everybody says he is in good shape and people who start working out have him as a goal

most importantly, Stavios doesn't call bullshit when he tells me he takes nothing but proteins and creatine


that = natural physique

put that in your blunt and smoke it

[Schmoff]

wtf?

that dude even works out?

 

[Stavios]

wtf?

that dude even works out?

 

that's a lean, natural dude with a natural skin tone and a few years in the gym

gets a lot of compliments at the beach and at the gym and yes he has a good looking athletic built

also he isn't doing a pose, he is just "standing there"

[The True Adonis]

5'10, about 180 lbs

lean but not that lean

impressive physique in the gym for the average gym members, women compliment him on his size
other dude compliment him on his ability to get compliments from women  

nobody says he is huge, everybody says he is in good shape and people who start working out have him as a goal

most importantly, Stavios doesn't call bullshit when he tells me he takes nothing but proteins and creatine


that = natural physique

put that in your blunt and smoke it

I win.

[Stavios]

I win.

yes

but you are flexing in perfect lightning tho, he is just standing there relaxed outside at the beach

[The True Adonis]

yes

but you are flexing in perfect lightning tho, he is just standing there relaxed outside at the beach

And he needs to lose some fat.

[apply85]

love it when stav gets authoritative, also what do u mean natural skin tone, how does aas change skin tone?

[Stavios]

And he needs to lose some fat.

if he wanted to do a bodybuilding show, yes

for the everyday life he is fine

[The True Adonis]

if he wanted to do a bodybuilding show, yes

for the everyday life he is fine

That depends.  If someone asks to see his abs and he pulls up his shirt and that nasty mess is what gets unsheathed, people will then ask "I thought you worked out".

[Stavios]

love it when stav gets authoritative, also what do u mean natural skin tone, how does aas change skin tone?

veins are more visible when on aas and since the muscle is fuller it pushes against the skin so the skin is thigher and sit better on the muscle

don't know if it makes sense but my english sucks

[apply85]

that's kind of what I figured, I thought you meant like the color or texture of the skin

[Stavios]

for example, same guy again on the left

on the right, I don't know who that is but he is on some roids whatever they are

skin is just tighter around the muscle, the 2 are probably the same bodyfat

[The True Adonis]

for example, same guy again on the left

on the right, I don't know who that is but he is on some roids whatever they are

Please end your posts right here.  You are being a moron. You chose to juice at a young age so you have zero conception of what can be attained naturally.  Both in those pictures are easily obtainable and you are a delusional beyond belief if either require roids of any kind.

[Stavios]

Please end your posts right here.  You are being a moron. You chose to juice at a young age so you have zero conception of what can be attained naturally.  Both in those pictures are easily obtainable and you are a delusional beyond belief if either require roids of any kind.

I have a pretty good conception of what can be attained naturally because the naturals who have been training for a few years all come to me at the gym to ask me: BRO ! What am I doing wrong, why have I looked the same for a while

and they are all the same approximative size.

all of them

and I tell to all of them: if you want to be bigger than that just take roids

because that's the truth

[The True Adonis]

I have a pretty good conception of what can be attained naturally because the naturals who have been training for a few years all come to me at the gym to ask me: BRO ! What am I doing wrong, why have I looked the same for a while

and they are all the same approximative size.

all of them

and I tell to all of them: if you want to be bigger than that just take roids

because that's the truth

I don`t dispute that notion at all, but just saying anyone with a six pack and a little bit of deltoid must automatically be on roids is just rather silly.  I know you know better than this.

[Stavios]

I don`t dispute that notion at all, but just saying anyone with a six pack and a little bit of deltoid must automatically be on roids is just rather silly.  I know you know better than this.

of course.

I just think that particular dude is on roids.

usually I am right with my assumptions

[pellius]

I win.

If it was six years ago.

[The True Adonis]

If it was six years ago.

I look the same right now but I am trying to fix that by doing 6-7 day a week training sessions.

[Disgusted]

Adam, you are pumped in that pic and it was taken with very shadowed lighting to enhance your lines. Actually you are not as lean as you like people to think. Show us your back shots and we will see how much fat you have on your back and legs.

[The True Adonis]

Adam, you are pumped in that pic and it was taken with very shadowed lighting to enhance your lines. Actually you are not as lean as you like people to think. Show us your back shots and we will see how much fat you have on your back and legs.

Working on that as well.  I am trying right now to get in the best natural shape as I possibly can at the moment and then I want Getbig to decide where I should go from there.

[Disgusted]

Fair enough Adam. I actually look forward to seeing you shredded.

[Meso_z]

5'10, about 180 lbs

lean but not that lean

impressive physique in the gym for the average gym members, women compliment him on his size
other dude compliment him on his ability to get compliments from women  

nobody says he is huge, everybody says he is in good shape and people who start working out have him as a goal

most importantly, Stavios doesn't call bullshit when he tells me he takes nothing but proteins and creatine


that = natural physique

put that in your blunt and smoke it

Great example man..

Although he could look a slight better...if his diet, training and rest were 100% (which i believe they arent, gotta have a life shouldnt he?  )

[buselmo]

as usual... stavios is correct.

[Jaime]

Thats not a good natural after 7 years of training sorry.

[flinstones1]

http://www.xvideos.com/video857595/short_hair_hottie_in_pink_anal_creamed_3of3

all natural