Herman Cain to Occupy Wall Street protesters: If you're not rich 'blame yourself

[Coach is Back!]

I hope this guy gets the nomination....he's exactly what we need!


Unemployed Wall Street protesters only have themselves to blame for lacking a job, so says Herman Cain.

The Republican presidential candidate insisted that the demonstrations were being "orchestrated" to help President Obama.

"I don't have the facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama Administration," Cain told the Wall Street Journal.

The Tea Party favorite then argued that the plight of the unemployed was their own fault.

"Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It is not someone's fault if they succeeded, it is someone's fault if they failed," the ex-Godfather's Pizza CEO declared.

The fiery remarks come as protest organizers plan for their biggest demonstrations yet -- at least 2,000 people are expected to gather in lower Manhattan Wednesday.

Last week, 700 protesters who spilled onto the streets near the Brooklyn Bridge were arrested on charges of disorderly conduct.

Cain acknowledged that the banking industry played a role in the 2008 economic meltdown, but argued they were no longer responsible.

Protesters and police officers on Brooklyn Bridge during the 'Occupy Wall Street' rally on Oct. 1 (Anjali Mullany/News)

"They did have something to do with the crisis that we went into in 2008, but we're not in 2008, we're in 2011," Cain said."...These demonstrations, I honestly don't understand what they're looking for. To me, they come across more as anti-capitalism."

Cain's campaign has been picking up steam since he won Florida's straw poll last month.

And in a recent Rasmussen Reports poll, Cain trails Obama by just five points in a head-to-head matchup.

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[Stavios]

I think everyone should pay X% amount of tax so if you do 100k a year, you WILL pay more tax than someone who makes 10k

it's simple logic

someone who makes 100K should not pay 15% while the poor one pay 10% and vice versa.

Tax the same % to everyone and this ends the problem

(those % are fictional, I don't know what you guys pay in the states)

[Mr. Magoo]

theres not a face palm big enough to respond to a thread like this

he can't be serious

By the way> http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

These are people who worked hard, 80+ hours a week, went to college, got BAs, MAs, PHDs, tried to become contributors to society. The idea that these are all lazy football watching beer drinking fatasses is a dangerous misconception and I find it appalling. These people (most of them) did what society told them to. They worked their asses off, went through school, and still end up not being able to afford cancer treatment, not being able to buy food for their children and pay rent at the same time, not be able to afford diapers for their child, let dad die because his treatment cost a little too much, etc.

[che]

''If you're not rich 'blame yourself''

Most retarded statement I've ever heard.

[Stavios]

why don't everybody pay the same %

please explain to me

[The Ugly]

I like a Gingrich/Cain ticket.

[Parker]

"I don't have the facts to back it up..."

okay...Mr. Cain, please sit down and have another round.

[Mr. Magoo]

why don't everybody pay the same %

please explain to me

because the rich write the laws.

[Stavios]

because the rich write the laws.

In quebec, poor pay something like 15% and you pay 25% when you make 75k per year or more

it pisses me off.

the guy who makes more WILL PAY MORE since the % of his income will be higher !

what is it like in the USA ?

do you guys have a chart somewhere ?

[njanvi]

''If you're not rich 'blame yourself''

Most retarded statement I've ever heard.

Agreed! One of the dumbest statements of all time.

No Question capitalism is great, but can we please stop pretenting that rich people are smarter and harder working than the rest of us and poor people are dumb and lazy?!?

[njanvi]

In quebec, poor pay something like 15% and you pay 25% when you make 75k per year or more

it pisses me off.

the guy who makes more WILL PAY MORE since the % of his income will be higher !

what is it like in the USA ?

do you guys have a chart somewhere ?

You know...it's called a progressive tax system...you might want to google that concept

[Stavios]

You know...it's called a progressive tax system...you might want to google that concept

it's stupid

it's a pourcentage !

10% of 100k is more than 10% of 10k

so if you tax everybody the same, the rich will end up paying more.

what's wrong with that ?

you guys want to rich to pay half their fucking income ?

I am not even rich I am middle class but it doesn't make sense to me

[supernick]

Cain 4 the win !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Roger Bacon]

I think everyone should pay X% amount of tax so if you do 100k a year, you WILL pay more tax than someone who makes 10k

it's simple logic

someone who makes 100K should not pay 15% while the poor one pay 10% and vice versa.

Tax the same % to everyone and this ends the problem

(those % are fictional, I don't know what you guys pay in the states)

This, not that my income is high.  I just don't think we should punish productivity. 

[njanvi]

Stav,
The percentages kick in at different levels, you are not paying a flat rate on all your income, just a higher percentage at higher levels

[njanvi]

This, not that my income is high.  I just don't think we should punish productivity. 

If only it were true that the more you made, the more "productive" you are, correlated but not equal by any means

[Irongrip400]

Agreed! One of the dumbest statements of all time.

No Question capitalism is great, but can we please stop pretenting that rich people are smarter and harder working than the rest of us and poor people are dumb and lazy?!?

Dude, that is exactly the truth.  Rich are rich because they take risks and work hard, and 9 times out of 10 are smarter.  I have employees, I make substantially more money than them, but I am smarter, and I take all of the risk.  It is just easier to step up the scale when you start making a certain amount.  Doors seem to open.  I tell you what, going from $40k to $80k a year was way harder than going from $80k to $160k.  Just the way it is, it's like the addage, it takes money to make money to run a business.  Well, the same is true in life.  Once you get a little more money, it's easier to accrue more wealth.  On a macro level one may feel inclined to feel bad for the poor, but when you look at each case, more often than not, the poor are poor because they made/make bad decisions.  I have a few that work for me now, and once they're in that position, they are easily exploited.

[Roger Bacon]

If only it were true that the more you made, the more "productive" you are, correlated but not equal by any means

People generally make what they deserve. 

[Stavios]

Stav,
The percentages kick in at different levels, you are not paying a flat rate on all your income, just a higher percentage at higher levels

that's my point.
I don't know shit about finances, but the logic for me would be to impose a flat rate for everybody

X% of your income whether you make 10k or 1million a year

[dr.chimps]

Poor Coach. In a few months, we will realize that his non-stop bitching is racist-based, and not policy or party-based.    

[Fury]

Poor Coach. In a few months, we will realize that all your non-stop bitching is racist-based, and not policy or party-based.    

That makes sense, what with Herman Cain being black and all.

[Mr. Magoo]

Dude, that is exactly the truth.  Rich are rich because they take risks and work hard, and 9 times out of 10 are smarter.  I have employees, I make substantially more money than them, but I am smarter, and I take all of the risk.  It is just easier to step up the scale when you start making a certain amount.  Doors seem to open.  I tell you what, going from $40k to $80k a year was way harder than going from $80k to $160k.  Just the way it is, it's like the addage, it takes money to make money to run a business.  Well, the same is true in life.  Once you get a little more money, it's easier to accrue more wealth.  On a macro level one may feel inclined to feel bad for the poor, but when you look at each case, more often than not, the poor are poor because they made/make bad decisions.  I have a few that work for me now, and once they're in that position, they are easily exploited.

what?   For your argument to work, you would have to prove that the poor dont take risks or work hard. The link I provided in my post above showed exactly the opposite. There are a lot of poor people that work very hard, took huge risks (taking out loans as an investment on their education) to try to better themselves, and they end up with eviction notices, no employment, dad cant pay for his cancer treatment, etc etc. All you said was that the poor make bad decisions. If you think they take risks but these risks just don't turn out, and for the rich the risks do turn out good, then you have to admit the outcome is arbitrary to the effort, and surely you cant believe we should have economic rewards for people who just happen to have good "luck"  

Here it is again so you won't have to scroll http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

[dr.chimps]

That makes sense, what with Herman Cain being black and all.

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[dogma5914]

People do not like to hear the truth unfortunately. You're not rich because you're either too stupid or too lazy to put in the work necessary to become rich. Most people are not stupid.

theres not a face palm big enough to respond to a thread like this

he can't be serious

By the way> http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

These are people who worked hard, 80+ hours a week, went to college, got BAs, MAs, PHDs, tried to become contributors to society. The idea that these are all lazy football watching beer drinking fatasses is a dangerous misconception and I find it appalling. These people (most of them) did what society told them to. They worked their asses off, went through school, and still end up not being able to afford cancer treatment, not being able to buy food for their children and pay rent at the same time, not be able to afford diapers for their child, let dad die because his treatment cost a little too much, etc.

They bought that bullshit ass DREAM. Just because you go to college does not automatically entitle you to riches. How about contributing something to society of value and making money instead of bitching about it. Oh and who works 80 hours a week and does not make money by the way?

[Fury]

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Ahh yes, the subconscious racism approach. Have to cover all the angles.