Herman Cain to Occupy Wall Street protesters: If you're not rich 'blame yourself

[Mr. Magoo]

I do not believe that EVERYONE can be rich!  BUT I do believe that everyone can better themselves and their situation to a certain extent.

Yes there have been many people who are extremely hardworking who have seen some hard times, but there are also ones that will not apply themselves, sit on their lazy asses yet will still bullshit and complain that they deserve more than what they have.

you're saying something different than what Cain said. Cain says that if you meet the condition of being not-wealthy, then you should blame only yourself for not being wealthy. Think about that for a moment. Think about all the things that one would have to put oneself above in order to do that. Above where I'm born, who I'm born to, the education of my parents, the structure of my elementary schools, the quality of my teachers, the state of the economy as a whole, the availability of jobs, genetic predisposition, what jobs are valuable at the time I reach the job market, etc etc. To say that I have ONLY (Keep that word in mind here) myself to blame for my shortcomings, is a huge leap to make. Do you see my objection? For some people, it doesn't matter what they do, they can work their asses of, invest in education, etc etc, and they still will remain poor. So the "if you work hard, then you will be successful" is proved false. Many have worked hard, and have not become successful.

[njanvi]

You realize Herman Cain came from nothing, right? He's proof positive that anyone can make it. He couldn't have had the odds more stacked against him; a dirt-poor black man from the south (his mother was a cleaner and his father a chauffeur) ends up with a bachelor's in mathematics, a master's in computer science, serves in the military as a ballistics expert and then ends up moving to corporate America and turns around multiple companies. He's proof positive that anybody can become rich and successful if they put the RIGHT work in. I didn't know working 80 hours a week meant you should be rich.

His life refutes your entire argument.  

I love the 1 in a million story as the example that "anyone" can do it. By definition, if anyone could do it and it was so common, no one would hold it upas some sort of inspirational story for others...

[Mr. Magoo]

I love the 1 in a million story as the example that "anyone" can do it. By definition, if anyone could do it and it was so common, no one would hold it upas some sort of inspirational story for others...

If anyone really could do it, nobody would be unhappy would they? Since it's so easy to accomplish whatever one wants. 

[Fury]

You know this is a logical fallacy don't you? It's called an error of composition or something like that. If he did it, then that means that he can do it. That does not mean that anyone can do it.

Ironic you're whining about that when I've seen you consistently use the same tactic in other threads.

In fact, it can even be argued that you're doing it in this thread.

Really reaching on that rebuttal.

[Fury]

I love the 1 in a million story as the example that "anyone" can do it. By definition, if anyone could do it and it was so common, no one would hold it upas some sort of inspirational story for others...

You'd rather blame others for your failures while Cain went out and bettered his position in life. Feel free to carry on with your whining.

Whereas Cain beat stage IV cancer, methinks you'd roll over and die.

[Mr. Magoo]

Ironic you're whining about that when I've seen you consistently use the same tactic in other threads.

In fact, it can even be argued that you're doing it in this thread.

Really reaching on that rebuttal.

Calling you illogical isn't "really reaching". By the way, maybe it was the fallacy of overgeneralization, either way, it was a logical fallacy.If you want to claim outright that you have no intention on being logical, then feel free to do whatever you want. There are real people who have tried their hardest to better themselves and still come up short. There are several people in society (at least 3 or so in this thread) who say that if someone works hard, then they can be successful. They believe this to an extent that they are ready to point the blame finger at those who do not become successful, after all "all you had to do was work hard and apply yourself". This has damning political consequences. This delusion results in a blind eye to a significant problem

[Devon97]

to a certain extent you don't control your own destiny. You control what is within the limit of your human potential, but not beyond what you're capable of becoming. like I said, all the hard work in the world won't make most people win a nobel prize. Its the way it is. Just accept it.

I didn't say hard work. I said hard + SMART work. And I didn't say a Nobel prize. I said be rich, which is relative. 'Rich" for a construction worker like che is an annual income of 150k. For a man supporting his 2 kids in private school and stay at home wife his idea of "rich" might be an annual income of $1million.

LOl I love the GetBig pity party, I swear no wonder you suckers love Obama so much lol

[The Showstoppa]

The world needs ditch diggers too.

[Nirvana]

i ain't voting for him cause he's black.  which means he ain't as good as presidenting as a white guy.

[Howard]

I didn't say hard work. I said hard + SMART work. And I didn't say a Nobel prize. I said be rich, which is relative. 'Rich" for a construction worker like che is an annual income of 150k. For a man supporting his 2 kids in private school and stay at home wife his idea of "rich" might be an annual income of $1million.

LOl I love the GetBig pity party, I swear no wonder you suckers love Obama so much lol

The top 5% always sell the idea that you can be rich like me. This is like a pro athlete or top singer saying anyone can be like me.
No matter how you slice it the top 5% will always be above the rest of us in the lower 95%.
You can't fit most of the population in the upper 5-10%. Basic statistics and logic here.
The odds are MOST of us will live in the mddle class and that is why GOV needs to have laws that are good for the 80% who live in the middle.

[The Showstoppa]

i ain't voting for him cause he's black.  which means he ain't as good as presidenting as a white guy.

So you would rather just leave the turd in office?

[Nirvana]

So you would rather just leave the turd in office?

he's half black so he's better than the all black guy

the blacker the worse. politically speaking

[KrAng]

I think everyone should pay X% amount of tax so if you do 100k a year, you WILL pay more tax than someone who makes 10k

it's simple logic

someone who makes 100K should not pay 15% while the poor one pay 10% and vice versa.

Tax the same % to everyone and this ends the problem

(those % are fictional, I don't know what you guys pay in the states)

Flat tax will not work due to large disparity in income from the top 1% and the rest of the population....
This would actually be less tax revenue ( adding to deficit)

[The Showstoppa]

he's half black so he's better than the all black guy

the blacker the worse. politically speaking

Maybe we need to try a Taco-American "el presidente?"

[reppingfor20]

''If you're not rich 'blame yourself''

Most retarded statement I've ever heard.

hahahhaha Cain just screwed himself out of the race

[Soul Crusher]

Cain is awesome.   He will send that Marxist piece of garbage Obama back to Kenya where he belongs. 

[Coach is Back!]

Why do I have this feeling that NO ONE watched the interview. JT....STFU you government sponge.

[Mr. Magoo]

Why do I have this feeling that NO ONE watched the interview. JT....STFU you government sponge.

why do I have this feeling that you disappeared from this thread until you felt it was safe to come back 

[bike nut]

"We have to pass this bill to see what's in it"

Single-most retarded political statement made in the last decade. Courtesy of Obama's botoxed fluffer.

[Soul Crusher]

I don't know what the purpose of the protests are but if Cain thinks the meltdown of the credit and RE market is not STILL  a HUGE drag on the economy then he's too stupid to be POTUS

Let's not forget that it was the US Taxpayer who bailed out these banks

LMAO.    Cain headed the Federal Reserve in KC but straw mam knows more than him.  

[Soul Crusher]

"We have to pass this bill to see what's in it"

Single-most retarded political statement made in the last decade. Courtesy of Obama's botoxed fluffer.

LMFAO!!!!!!    .

[Coach is Back!]

Sorry dude, I'm working right now. If you want me to he's right....its because he is. Another thing, you clowns always seem to play the "Christian" card and throw it up when its convieniant. The ONLY thing I disagreed with him on is when he said its their fault because their not rich. I however do blame them for making excuses rely on the government and not fend for themselves. "Rich" has a different meaning for different people. "Rich" doesn't mean having mansions, exotic cars, boats, etc. So before you start crying about what he said

[che]

'Rich" for a construction worker like che is an annual income of 150k.

[che]

Sorry dude, I'm working right now. If you want me to he's right....its because he is. Another thing, you clowns always seem to play the "Christian" card and throw it up when its convieniant. The ONLY thing I disagreed with him on is when he said its their fault because their not rich. I however do blame them for making excuses rely on the government and not fend for themselves. "Rich" has a different meaning for different people. "Rich" doesn't mean having mansions, exotic cars, boats, etc. So before you start crying about what he said

Why aren't you rich Coach?

[bike nut]

You can gauge a person's maturity when they define rich as a number on a tax return.