Author Topic: Herman Cain to Occupy Wall Street protesters: If you're not rich 'blame yourself  (Read 23070 times)

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Not everyone is complaining they are not rich.   

He didn't say "if you're poor, and if you're complaining, then blame yourself"

He said: " if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself" (Please keep this exact phrase in mind, no adding to and no subtracting from to try to put your own spin on it to make it more appealing)

Think about what that means. A lot of the people in that link I posted do not have a job, a lot of people in that link I posted are not rich, but do you honestly 100% agree that they should blame ONLY theirself? By definition of what he said, that includes if a child is poor (He meets the conditions of A) Not having a job and B) Not being rich, then the should blame only himself). I think many in this thread (Coach, Big Ach, etc) disagree with Cain on this point. Let's assume that Cain didn't fuck up speaking and that he really meant what he said. Do you honestly agree that ANYONE who meets the condition of A) Not having a job and B) Not being rich, should blame ONLY theirself for not having a job, and not being rich?

Reply by saying either 1) Cain messed up speaking, what he should have said was "If you're here protesting, if you're lazy, if you don't have a job, etc etc then blame yourself  OR reply by saying 2) Cain is correct in his statement.

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Cain is exactly right - the problem is that people who are not working typically do so out of choice.   

I never see whites or blacks at day labor sites looking to clean toilets or mop floors, etc. 

If someone wants to work, there is always a job somewhere not being filled, maybe not what they want, but there is always something somewhere to do. 


These OWS commie dirtbags are wortheless leeches looking for a handout and little else.     

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Herman Cain didn't have a hard life as he claimed.  He drunk out of a separate water fountain..big fucking deal..... ::)  He's complaining about that shit while my ass was dodging bullets and trying to stay alive like the Bee Gee's.  When the Crack Epidemic hit in the 80's, the hood went literally bananas.  Drug dealers was trying to push shit on me everyday, gang violence was tearing up the place, and the police harassed any black man that was walking out in the street.  Just about every week, I would have to kiss the street because the police stopped and patted down everyone for drugs and having a gun to the back of my head.  A couple of times, I got kicked while on the ground when I complained about it.  Then I'd be hoisted back up to my feet and told to be a good little  n i g g a  and say no to drugs.... ::)

Herman Cain don't know shit about the hood.  He's up there complaining about segregation and having to sit in the back of the bus....fuck that shit.  He needs to realize that there are a lot more things worse to complain about than someone naming some property...NIGGERHEAD or having to eat in a seperate restaurant.  That's why he'll never get elected...he's out of touch with the real people and he needs to thank God for at least having a half decent life

HELLO!!! I lived in the hood, too. And since I'm older than you are, I'm perfectly aware of the epidemic of crack cocaine in the 80s. I had friends and relatives strung out on that crap (including my stepfather). I know what it's like to have to sit on the floor in your living room, because you don't want stray bullets to pick you off, while you're watching TV. The park less than 5 blocks from my old apartment was NOTORIOUS for dope-slinging. And going a week without sirens heading in that direction was a miracle.

Yet, the police never harassed me. In fact, the only time I've ever got stopped walking the streets by white cops is when I was a teenager. They thought I was skipping school, but I was heading to church for a field trip that my youth group was having. That church ran the private school I attended, which ended for summer 3 weeks earlier than the public schools did.

In no way, shape, or fashion would I say I had a worse life than Herman Cain did. At least I could go to a private school (yes, with mostly white kids in a mostly white neighborhood). I had my CHOICE of colleges to attend when I graduated high school. I choose an HBCU; I wasn't forced to go to one.


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HELLO!!! I lived in the hood, too. And since I'm older than you are, I'm perfectly aware of the epidemic of crack cocaine in the 80s. I had friends and relatives strung out on that crap (including my stepfather). I know what it's like to have to sit on the floor in your living room, because you don't want stray bullets to pick you off, while you're watching TV. The park less than 5 blocks from my old apartment was NOTORIOUS for dope-slinging. And going a week without sirens heading in that direction was a miracle.

Yet, the police never harassed me. In fact, the only time I've ever got stopped walking the streets by white cops is when I was a teenager. They thought I was skipping school, but I was heading to church for a field trip that my youth group was having. That church ran the private school I attended, which ended for summer 3 weeks earlier than the public schools did.

In no way, shape, or fashion would I say I had a worse life than Herman Cain did. At least I could go to a private school (yes, with mostly white kids in a mostly white neighborhood). I had my CHOICE of colleges to attend when I graduated high school. I choose an HBCU; I wasn't forced to go to one.




The thing is that Herman Cain is the one trying to be elected to the office of President and simply put, you cannot say stuff like that to people.  Folks are unemployed, been laid off, and trying to get work and to them, its insulting to hear something like that...period.  

In addition, he should not have taken the bait and discuss Rick Perry's "N-Head Lodge".  It would have been better to let the media crucify him than intervene like that. 

Herman Cain will not become the next president.
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Yeah Vince -  lets all sing kumbaya instead and just stand around and blame everyone in sight like Maobama. 

That makes a lot of fucking sense. 

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He didn't say "if you're poor, and if you're complaining, then blame yourself"

He said: " if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself" (Please keep this exact phrase in mind, no adding to and no subtracting from to try to put your own spin on it to make it more appealing)

Think about what that means. A lot of the people in that link I posted do not have a job, a lot of people in that link I posted are not rich, but do you honestly 100% agree that they should blame ONLY theirself? By definition of what he said, that includes if a child is poor (He meets the conditions of A) Not having a job and B) Not being rich, then the should blame only himself). I think many in this thread (Coach, Big Ach, etc) disagree with Cain on this point. Let's assume that Cain didn't fuck up speaking and that he really meant what he said. Do you honestly agree that ANYONE who meets the condition of A) Not having a job and B) Not being rich, should blame ONLY theirself for not having a job, and not being rich?

Reply by saying either 1) Cain messed up speaking, what he should have said was "If you're here protesting, if you're lazy, if you don't have a job, etc etc then blame yourself  OR reply by saying 2) Cain is correct in his statement.

Those people in your link are idiots for the most part, not that I believe half of what they're dating. If you had to take a guess what do you think most of those people majored in? Engineering? Computer science?

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Rich folks do NOT get rich by paying their share of taxes. They hire tax attorneys and they create failing businesses (write-offs) ~ to all outward appearances they pay what they owe, but the reality is that the middle and lower class (while we still have them) pay all the taxes.

Taxing more from a rich man is just going to force him to pay less in the long haul.

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The thing is that Herman Cain is the one trying to be elected to the office of President and simply put, you cannot say stuff like that to people.  Folks are unemployed, been laid off, and trying to get work and to them, its insulting to hear something like that...period.  

In addition, he should not have taken the bait and discuss Rick Perry's "N-Head Lodge".  It would have been better to let the media crucify him than intervene like that. 

Herman Cain will not become the next president.

The people to whom he made that statement aren't voting for Cain anyway. That was a direct shot at these "Occupy Wall Street" bunch.

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BBBOOOOOOMMMMM

WHO THE FUCK IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD VOTE FOR THIS AGAIN? 


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This is going to be a lot worse than getting a blowjob from a fat chick while in office.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20115038-10391695.html


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Cain is exactly right - the problem is that people who are not working typically do so out of choice.   

I never see whites or blacks at day labor sites looking to clean toilets or mop floors, etc. 

If someone wants to work, there is always a job somewhere not being filled, maybe not what they want, but there is always something somewhere to do. 


These OWS commie dirtbags are wortheless leeches looking for a handout and little else.     
Because whites and blacks would want fair pay, and insurance/healthcare, sick leave (paid), paid vacation time...oh and fair pay...
Cleaning companies would rather hire people that don't know shit and take anythig given to them, because, they maybe here illegally, or living 8 to an apt, or have no SS #'s. And when ICE cracks down or the fake SS#'s don't check out, they fire them and get some more. It's a revolving door.

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Because whites and blacks would want fair pay, and insurance/healthcare, sick leave (paid), paid vacation time...oh and fair pay...
Cleaning companies would rather hire people that don't know shit and take anythig given to them, because, they maybe here illegally, or living 8 to an apt, or have no SS #'s. And when ICE cracks down or the fake SS#'s don't check out, they fire them and get some more. It's a revolving door.

Many jobs do not produce or generate sufficient revenue to the company to afford paying the person all that stuff. 

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The people to whom he made that statement aren't voting for Cain anyway. That was a direct shot at these "Occupy Wall Street" bunch.


And these people don't deserve to protest??  Are they not Americans???  Wasn't our country founded on the Constitution and the First Amendment???  Are they any different than the Tea Party Protesters???  

Like it or not, they are not there on Wall Street just for shits and giggles.  
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And these people don't deserve to protest??  Are they not Americans???  Wasn't our country founded on the Constitution and the First Amendment???  Are they any different than the Tea Party Protesters???  

Like it or not, they are not there on Wall Street just for shits and giggles.  


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Holder has a funny looking face.  He looks like a Sesame Street Muppet.
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Because whites and blacks would want fair pay, and insurance/healthcare, sick leave (paid), paid vacation time...oh and fair pay...
Cleaning companies would rather hire people that don't know shit and take anythig given to them, because, they maybe here illegally, or living 8 to an apt, or have no SS #'s. And when ICE cracks down or the fake SS#'s don't check out, they fire them and get some more. It's a revolving door.


Yep, why pay workers minimum wage when they can pay an illegal 4-5 bucks an hour....and they won't complain about it because they don't want to end up getting deported.  That's why companies hire illegals for....so they can circumvent proper pay, health benefits, and get cheap labor.  That's why companies ship jobs overseas...because they can circumvent pay, health benefits, etc.  That's why jobs are outsourced for and that's why the number of "independent contractors" has risen.  

Illegals don't get jobs because they work harder...its because they are willing to work for less than minimum wage and not complain about it.  

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What's your point in showing these pictures???  Tea Party isn't exactly all there.














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And these people don't deserve to protest??  Are they not Americans???  Wasn't our country founded on the Constitution and the First Amendment???  Are they any different than the Tea Party Protesters???  

Like it or not, they are not there on Wall Street just for shits and giggles.  

Who said they didn't deserve to protest (notwithstanding that half of them don't even know what they're protesting)?

Are they different than the Tea Party? YEP!! They're destroying property and keeping people from going to work.

Virtually nobody from the Tea Party has been arrested by the cops. In fact, covering a Tea Party rally is light duty for the police. Some have stated how friendly the Tea Party folks were to them, thanking them for their service, and even baking them cookies.

And I guarantee that these knuckleheads will leave those streets a wretched mess, unlike the Tea Party that knows how to clean up behind themselves (and how to clean their behinds as well).

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Who said they didn't deserve to protest (notwithstanding that half of them don't even know what they're protesting)?

Are they different than the Tea Party? YEP!! They're destroying property and keeping people from going to work.

Virtually nobody from the Tea Party has been arrested by the cops. In fact, covering a Tea Party rally is light duty for the police. Some have stated how friendly the Tea Party folks were to them, thanking them for their service, and even baking them cookies.

And I guarantee that these knuckleheads will leave those streets a wretched mess, unlike the Tea Party that knows how to clean up behind themselves (and how to clean their behinds as well).


Oh yes, plenty of Tea Party members have been arrested for disorderly conduct...lets not forget the Tea Party member who shot up Gifford and all those people in Arizona but that doesn't make any difference.  This isn't fucking China, people have a right to protest and they are not blocking anyone on Wall Street from going to work or destroying property.... ::)


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Oh yes, plenty of Tea Party members have been arrested for disorderly conduct...lets not forget the Tea Party member who shot up Gifford and all those people in Arizona but that doesn't make any difference.  This isn't fucking China, people have a right to protest and they are not blocking anyone on Wall Street from going to work or destroying property.... ::)




WTF are you talking about? 

The guy who shot giffords was a marxist! 

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Holder has a funny looking face.  He looks like a Sesame Street Muppet.
Well, they are all puppets of some sort.

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WTF are you talking about? 

The guy who shot giffords was a marxist! 


He was hard core Tea Party...period....hell if you put a wig on him he looks like Sarah Palin
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He was hard core Tea Party...period....hell if you put a wig on him he looks like Sarah Palin

WTF are you talking about?  Dude - you are really so fucked in the head its not even funny.   


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Oh yes, plenty of Tea Party members have been arrested for disorderly conduct...lets not forget the Tea Party member who shot up Gifford and all those people in Arizona but that doesn't make any difference.  This isn't fucking China, people have a right to protest and they are not blocking anyone on Wall Street from going to work or destroying property.... ::)


Are you SERIOUS?

Loughner wasn't and isn't a member of the Tea Party. Heck, his best friend and two ex-girlfriends states that, to their knowledge that he wasn't a conservative. He was barely political.

Where are all the headlines of Tea Party folk being herded to jail in cuffs? That's standard fare with liberal protests.

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WTF are you talking about?  Dude - you are really so fucked in the head its not even funny.   



Forget drinking the Obama Kool-Aid. Vince is doing the backstroke in it. There is NO LINK between Loughner and the Tea Party, despite the left-winged media DESPERATE attempt to make such appear, to smear those folks.