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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #625 on: October 09, 2011, 07:20:02 PM »
i don't feel like reading the past couple of pages

but has this turned into an argument where people are giving their own personal experiences about what degrees are valuable in job interviews?

Unless some data is posted, this thread will go nowhere.

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« Reply #626 on: October 09, 2011, 07:22:23 PM »
LMFAO so you somehow relate college football to business degrees? goodfuckingness ::)

As ive said I agree but again if youre looking at a business degree or a social science degree which resume are you pulling?

Thats the point you dont get the job if you dont get an interview, business degrees get you interviews...
Business degree= interviews... So a business degree is the most effective way to get a job...  ahh i see now  ::)

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« Reply #627 on: October 09, 2011, 07:23:20 PM »
LOL ok so lets play along with your theory, what would your ideal system be?
My ideal system I don't have one I'm open to ideas, I acknowledge my limits, and would honestly like to hear what others have to say, but I feel this thread is just a bunch of people bitching about a movement they don't really understand. But with I were to make a short list of suggestions...

1) reform the education system so that it is more balanced(arts/commerce degrees should be far more common) regulate the loan/tuition structure.
2) Inforce some systems of laws that prevent monopolies or top heavy business structures from dominating the markets.
3) tax the top 1 percent more, and cut down the coporate tax  to levels that are comparable to socialist canada. Making no change to revenue just the taxation structure.  
4) cut military funding in a surgical way, to reduce waste and to keep a large demographic of people employed(ironically the military is the most socialist thing going).
5)Reduce imports by pushing the economy away from retail(mostly chinc goods) and to be more focused on services that cannot be outsourced(callcenters bad, meeting in person good  ;))
6) Reduce oil imports, by restructuring real estate values to be more focused on energy efficiency.

I'm personally a centrist, I despise taxation in all forums(other than whats necessary), yet I prefer regulation when it makes sense as taxation distorts the market, and I feel regulation restricts it.(which is often needed)

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #628 on: October 09, 2011, 07:24:04 PM »
I agree but thats once you meet them, the thing is bro theyre going through hundreds of resumes for 1 job...

if thats you are pulling the guy with a business degree or social science degree all other things equal?
Screw that.  You want a job, you don`t send your application in and wait.  You go to their front door let yourself in and then set your own appointment up.  The object is to own them, not have them own you.

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« Reply #629 on: October 09, 2011, 07:26:34 PM »
Screw that.  You want a job, you don`t send your application in and wait.  You go to their front door let yourself in and then set your own appointment up.  The object is to own them, not have them own you.
Exactly... this fucking retard thinks a BS in Business is his golden ticket. He will greatly be disappointed. I had to have someone literally bend over backwards for me in that company for me to get a freaking interview. He will be GREATLY let down if he thinks an MBA is going to save him. Generalized degrees (the point you are missing tommy) are WORTHELSS. What will get you a job is selling yourself and if you want to get noticed on paper then have a specialization.

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« Reply #630 on: October 09, 2011, 07:28:08 PM »
Screw that.  You want a job, you don`t send your application in and wait.  You go to their front door let yourself in and then set your own appointment up.  The object is to own them, not have them own you.
Your taking from a trades point of view, that isn't gonna work, in most industries. Again dude how you live and work is a special instance. The simple fact that you were given a home from your folks in a rich area, gives you a huge advantage in business.

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« Reply #631 on: October 09, 2011, 07:31:10 PM »
i don't feel like reading the past couple of pages

but has this turned into an argument where people are giving their own personal experiences about what degrees are valuable in job interviews?

Unless some data is posted, this thread will go nowhere.
again logically you would see signs of those with business degrees, math, engineering etc in the same reletive % of graduates if there wasnt a disparity...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/23795840?photo=11

all seem to be business, it and engineering degrees...I dont see any social sciences in there...

again every company needs accountants no matter how big or small and in what shape they are in, Notice they are number 1

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« Reply #632 on: October 09, 2011, 07:32:32 PM »
Business degree= interviews... So a business degree is the most effective way to get a job...  ahh i see now  ::)
never said that, it is however more effective than majoring in social sciences or political science...sorry hoss its just the way it is...

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« Reply #633 on: October 09, 2011, 07:33:49 PM »
Screw that.  You want a job, you don`t send your application in and wait.  You go to their front door let yourself in and then set your own appointment up.  The object is to own them, not have them own you.
Ill agree with that but youre not answering the question...all other things equal who are you hiring?

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« Reply #634 on: October 09, 2011, 07:36:04 PM »
Exactly... this fucking retard thinks a BS in Business is his golden ticket. He will greatly be disappointed. I had to have someone literally bend over backwards for me in that company for me to get a freaking interview. He will be GREATLY let down if he thinks an MBA is going to save him. Generalized degrees (the point you are missing tommy) are WORTHELSS. What will get you a job is selling yourself and if you want to get noticed on paper then have a specialization.
LMFAO im not discounting that you jack ass...Did I mention I interned during my undergrad? that im working in the field I intend to career in while going to school at night for my MBA?

so you said earlier companies look for transferable skills and now youre saying they want specialization? which one is it?

look bro, I didnt mean to hurt your feelings or stick up for the dousche bags and sorority girls that apparently hurt your feelings somehow Im just stating FACTS!!!!

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« Reply #635 on: October 09, 2011, 07:38:43 PM »
again logically you would see signs of those with business degrees, math, engineering etc in the same reletive % of graduates if there wasnt a disparity...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/23795840?photo=11

all seem to be business, it and engineering degrees...I dont see any social sciences in there...

again every company needs accountants no matter how big or small and in what shape they are in, Notice they are number 1
That's obvious but to say that people going for arts degrees are creating their own problems is missing the point. Our economy is too set in the direction of applied sciences. The economy naturally places value into these degrees. Because its based on shortsighted timespans of month to month. In the long term were turning are workforce into a very limited existence. If were gonna survive the cheap labor pool that is asia, we have to either cut off trade with them, lower our working wages to fuck all, or do something they can't do and the social sciences are it.

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« Reply #636 on: October 09, 2011, 07:39:33 PM »
LMFAO im not discounting that you jack ass...Did I mention I interned during my undergrad? that im working in the field I intend to career in while going to school at night for my MBA?

so you said earlier companies look for transferable skills and now youre saying they want specialization? which one is it?

look bro, I didnt mean to hurt your feelings or stick up for the dousche bags and sorority girls that apparently hurt your feelings somehow Im just stating FACTS!!!!
Nahhh... just a frustrated college grad myself looking to go back to school and pick up a skill. I sympathize with those people because i know what it feels like to job hunt and be unemployed with a degree that you invested in. I also feel like i am not out of the smoke yet and could easily fall into that 99% category if something bad were to happen to me like a medical problem or totaling my car. Fortunately for me my unemployment was only 3 months and i have no debt (knock on wood).

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« Reply #637 on: October 09, 2011, 07:40:50 PM »
again logically you would see signs of those with business degrees, math, engineering etc in the same reletive % of graduates if there wasnt a disparity...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/23795840?photo=11

all seem to be business, it and engineering degrees...I dont see any social sciences in there...

again every company needs accountants no matter how big or small and in what shape they are in, Notice they are number 1

I don't really care to get into an argument. I'm honestly now just trying to be a dick  :D

Top jobs in the U.S. (pay most for least amount of work) Don't see any business, math, or engineering degrees here

http://247wallst.com/2011/09/01/the-highest-paying-jobs-with-the-most-time-off/

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« Reply #638 on: October 09, 2011, 07:41:13 PM »
That's obvious but to say that people going for arts degrees are creating their own problems is missing the point. Our economy is too set in the direction of applied sciences. The economy naturally places value into these degrees. Because its based on shortsighted timespans of month to month. In the long term were turning are workforce into a very limited existence. If were gonna survive the cheap labor pool that is asia, we have to either cut off trade with them, lower our working wages to fuck all, or do something they can't do and the social sciences are it.
no it places value in these areas b/c they are about quantifiable results. You dont go into a business deal not knowing your margins or exposure saying "I have a good feeling about this" sorry its about numbers...

we have tons of other options then the two you listed, are you serious?

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« Reply #639 on: October 09, 2011, 07:44:16 PM »
Nahhh... just a frustrated college grad myself looking to go back to school and pick up a skill. I sympathize with those people because i know what it feels like to job hunt and be unemployed with a degree that you invested in. I also feel like i am not out of the smoke yet and could easily fall into that 99% category if something bad were to happen to me like a medical problem or totaling my car. Fortunately for me my unemployment was only 3 months and i have no debt (knock on wood).
I do as well bro I got a degree in psych and went into construction and got laid off.

I THEN WENT BACK TO SCHOOL and got a finance degree, interned while in school at night and got a job and decided to go for my MBA to help ensure that what happend to me before will never happen again!!!

these fucks on wall street can do the same thing I did...

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« Reply #640 on: October 09, 2011, 07:45:57 PM »
I don't really care to get into an argument. I'm honestly now just trying to be a dick  :D

Top jobs in the U.S. (pay most for least amount of work) Don't see any business, math, or engineering degrees here

http://247wallst.com/2011/09/01/the-highest-paying-jobs-with-the-most-time-off/
LOL well I can appreciate that and in the same fashion.

we werent talking about pay and your link is about highest pay with most time off, not simply highest pay...

Also id like to see where both business and social science degrees fall on a scale like this...

CHOP, CHOP IM WAITING!!! ;)

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« Reply #641 on: October 09, 2011, 07:47:20 PM »
no it places value in these areas b/c they are about quantifiable results. You dont go into a business deal not knowing your margins or exposure saying "I have a good feeling about this" sorry its about numbers...

we have tons of other options then the two you listed, are you serious?
What are these options seriously I'd like to know?
Yes but your margins ignore the big picture. The nature of selfishness works often, but there are many exceptions. Does a business care if the labor market turns to shit, not as long as they can cherry pick for the best. Do business like ATT care if they export all there workers to foreign countries. No they don't even if this action causes destructive chaos on wallstreet. It's a serious problem and the businesses themselves can't break out of their behaviour on their own.

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« Reply #643 on: October 09, 2011, 07:54:53 PM »
What are these options seriously I'd like to know?
Yes but your margins ignore the big picture. The nature of selfishness works often, but there are many exceptions. Does a business care if the labor market turns to shit, not as long as they can cherry pick for the best. Do business like ATT care if they export all there workers to foreign countries. No they don't even if this action causes destructive chaos on wallstreet. It's a serious problem and the businesses themselves can't break out of their behaviour on their own.
LOL how about pressuring the foreign countries to raise their standards? how about tarrifs to make goods imported from those countries more expensive and more competitive with the goods made in america? how about creating incentives for companies to keep labor here in america like tax incentives and a competitive corporate tax rate?

JUST TO NAME A FEW!!!

Businesses are predictable they will do what makes them money, I dont see how ppl dont understand this...if it makes business sense to produce things here they will do it, if it makes business sense to produce things over seas, GUESS WHAT THEYRE GOING TO DO?

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« Reply #644 on: October 09, 2011, 07:58:09 PM »
What are these options seriously I'd like to know?
Yes but your margins ignore the big picture. The nature of selfishness works often, but there are many exceptions. Does a business care if the labor market turns to shit, not as long as they can cherry pick for the best. Do business like ATT care if they export all there workers to foreign countries. No they don't even if this action causes destructive chaos on wallstreet. It's a serious problem and the businesses themselves can't break out of their behaviour on their own.
you seem to feel that you can study anything you want in college or specialize in any skill and should be entitled to a job...this is just plain stupidity

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« Reply #645 on: October 09, 2011, 07:59:36 PM »
LOL how about pressuring the foreign countries to raise their standards? how about tarrifs to make goods imported from those countries more expensive and more competitive with the goods made in america? how about creating incentives for companies to keep labor here in america like tax incentives and a competitive corporate tax rate?

JUST TO NAME A FEW!!!

Businesses are predictable they will do what makes them money, I dont see how ppl dont understand this...if it makes business sense to produce things here they will do it, if it makes business sense to produce things over seas, GUESS WHAT THEYRE GOING TO DO?
You need to be voting for Buddy Roemer instead of dicking around with the other Bullshit candidates.


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« Reply #646 on: October 09, 2011, 08:01:58 PM »

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« Reply #647 on: October 09, 2011, 08:02:26 PM »
You need to be voting for Buddy Roemer instead of dicking around with the other Bullshit candidates.


ehhh its a lot more difficult then I made it seem in reality but to think we are limited to only the 2 choices the gimmick put up is assinine. Any way we go we would have to deal with alot of growing pains, rising prices for goods, while pay stays the same for a while, tarrifs being imposed on our goods that are exported to other countries etc...

no easy fix but definitely more than the 2 options that were presented.

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« Reply #648 on: October 09, 2011, 08:03:01 PM »
LOL how about pressuring the foreign countries to raise their standards? how about tarrifs to make goods imported from those countries more expensive and more competitive with the goods made in america? how about creating incentives for companies to keep labor here in america like tax incentives and a competitive corporate tax rate?
Rasing their standards won't happen with force from our end there are far to many countries in the world to make a drastic difference, although I do agree in principle. I'm for tarrifs as are most people the coporate elite however could care less, and rather just put their money in asia. And I don't think your taxation ideas differ that greatly from my 7 ideas I listed.
JUST TO NAME A FEW!!!
There's obviously millions of ideas but lets try to stick with the broader ideas
Businesses are predictable they will do what makes them money, I dont see how ppl dont understand this...if it makes business sense to produce things here they will do, if it makes business sense to produce things over seas, GUESS WHAT THEYRE GOING TO DO?
Didn't say they didn't the problem is businesses are run by people who often make mistakes, misjudgements, and extemely biased decisions
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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #649 on: October 09, 2011, 08:06:24 PM »
You need to be voting for Buddy Roemer instead of dicking around with the other Bullshit candidates.


clicked through it, I like the stances Ive heard...why isnt he at any of the debates?

what do you think about the post earlier about him that was saying he is corrupt?