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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2011, 04:40:44 PM »
Bloomberg ran the numbers two weeks ago or so and their estimate put the revenues generated within $200 billion of the amount collected last year.

Cain has long said that this 9-9-9 plan is the first step, with the goal ultimately being the fair tax.

Either way, it's an idea and that means he's already done more than President Downgrade.

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2011, 07:43:29 PM »
''And, again....we do not have a taxing problem.  We have a spending problem''

Agreed.  but no politician from either party will tell us what programs they'll slash.

ENTITLEMENTS is all they say.  They won't call out ballwashing because that costs jobs.

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2011, 08:41:37 PM »
wtf does what you just said have to do with the fact that he has some shmuck out of Wells Fargo in  Bumfuckville drawing up his touted 9-9-9 plan? Who does he have in mind for Chairmen of the Fed, Joe the Plumber?
what does the person who made the plan or what they do have to do with the plans merits?

hows seeking out top educated economic advisors worked out so far?

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2011, 08:42:30 PM »
He called Greenspan the best Fed chairmen, which means Cains an idiot and a perfect candidate for BeachBum type republicans. If he really believes that then he doesn't stand a chance in he'll of improving this economy.
now this is somewhat disconcerning...

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2011, 09:55:27 PM »
This 9-9-9 plan will sink his candidacy.
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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2011, 10:12:47 PM »
Who cares?  If it's a good idea and it's been vetted, who gives a rip if a low level "local" employee came up with the idea?  How elitist is this criticism?   ::)

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2011, 12:39:42 AM »
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The fed are your friends,,Haha

All potential Cain voters watch this and tell me with a straight face he is a better candidate than RP

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2011, 07:13:30 AM »
Who cares?  If it's a good idea and it's been vetted, who gives a rip if a low level "local" employee came up with the idea?  How elitist is this criticism?   ::)


Lol oh boy. Cain admitted he fucked up huge on the stste of the economy. Are you prepared to accept the disaster he'll create while practicing getting it right during his presidency? We need someone who's been right all along. When are you old school Neocants finally gonna get it right?

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2011, 07:15:25 AM »

Lol oh boy. Cain admitted he fucked up huge on the stste of the economy. Are you prepared to accept the disaster he'll create while practicing getting it right during his presidency? We need Simone who's been right all along. When are you old school Neocants finally gonna get it right?

Who cares?  As long as it doesn't resemble any form of elitism.

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2011, 07:17:01 AM »
Who cares?  As long as it doesn't resemble any form of elitism.

You voted for Obama - you really need to stay silent.   

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2011, 07:19:34 AM »
GOP should not have run a moron on their ticket then.

You thought she was qualified.  You back Trump and Bachmonster too.

If anyone needs to STFU - it's you and your uninformed ass.

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2011, 07:21:14 AM »
GOP should not have run a moron on their ticket then.

You thought she was qualified.  You back Trump and Bachmonster too.

If anyone needs to STFU - it's you and your uninformed ass.


I have been proven correct in the policy implications of an obama presidency - you voted for it. 

I hated mcCain - but compared to Maobama - there was not even a doubt. 


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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2011, 07:26:07 AM »
Proven correct?

HAHAHAHAHAH

Like the doctors walking out?
The riots in the street after he took office?
The 200 million expense?
The population living out of duffel bags?
Like him resigning or seeking a pardon?

The only thing you have been proven correct in is that you are the biggest tool on this board.

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2011, 07:27:38 AM »

Lol oh boy. Cain admitted he fucked up huge on the stste of the economy. Are you prepared to accept the disaster he'll create while practicing getting it right during his presidency? We need someone who's been right all along. When are you old school Neocants finally gonna get it right?

Its hard for these neocons to admit they live on a lie better to stay delusional

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2011, 07:28:46 AM »
Proven correct?

HAHAHAHAHAH

Like the doctors walking out?
The riots in the street after he took office?
The 200 million expense?
The population living out of duffel bags?
Like him resigning or seeking a pardon?

The only thing you have been proven correct in is that you are the biggest tool on this board.


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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2011, 07:31:31 AM »
Not a single one of your little predictions that I listed are included there.

You = FFFAAAAAIIIIILLLLLL!!!!!

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2011, 07:34:43 AM »
Yeah the downgrade was ALL Obama ::)

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2011, 09:13:00 AM »
Herman Cain's 999 Plan
Herman Cain.com ^ | Herman Cain

Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011



Vision for Economic Growth

•The natural state of our economy is prosperity. Freedom ensures that. •We must get the government off our backs, out of our pockets and out of our way in order to return to prosperity. •Policy uncertainty is killing the economy.

Economic Guiding Principles

1.Production drives the economy, not spending. ◦We can not spend our way to prosperity. ◦Government spending IS taxation. ◦Government spending is like taking a bucket of water from the deep end of the pool, pouring it in the shallow end. Then they HOPE that the water level will CHANGE. 2.Risk taking drives growth . ◦Business formation and job creation are dependent on entrepreneurs taking risks. ◦Investors who fund those entrepreneurs likewise take risks. 3.Measurements must be dependable. ◦A dollar must always be a dollar just as an hour is always 60 minutes. ◦Sound money is crucial for prosperity.

We Must Unite Not Divide

•When one party seeks to spend so that the other party must focus on cutting, we must unite around economic growth. •Unite all tax payers, don’t divide them into “income” tax payers vs. “payroll” tax payers. •Unite those wanting to eliminate deductions with those seeking lower rates. •As a first step, unite the “Flat-Taxers” with the “Fair-Taxers” Economic Growth is the Key •This is the worst recovery since the Depression. •If the President’s goal was to tie for last place with the previous worst recovery, he failed by 6 million jobs. •If we had a typical recovery, 13 million more Americans would be employed today. •That means more tax revenue, less government spending and 13 million less people opposed to reasonable spending cuts. •The Super Committee must deliver a robust growth solution. •America can’t wait for 2012, we need growth NOW Phase 1 - 9-9-9 •Current circumstances call for bolder action. •The Phase 1 Enhanced Plan incorporates the features of Phase One and gets us a step closer to Phase two. •I call on the Super Committee to pass the Phase 1 Enhanced Plan along with their spending cut package. •The Phase 1 Enhanced Plan unites Flat Tax supporters with Fair tax supporters. •Achieves the broadest possible tax base along with the lowest possible rate of 9%. •It ends the Payroll Tax completely – a permanent holiday! •Zero capital gains tax •Ends the Death Tax. •Eliminates double taxation of dividends •Business Flat Tax – 9% ◦Gross income less all investments, all purchases from other businesses and all dividends paid to shareholders. ◦Empowerment Zones will offer additional deductions for payroll employed in the zone. •Individual Flat Tax – 9%. ◦Gross income less charitable deductions. ◦Empowerment Zones will offer additional deductions for those living and/or working in the zone. •National Sales Tax – 9%. ◦This gets the Fair Tax off the sidelines and into the game.



Phase 2 – The Fair Tax


•Amidst a backdrop of the economic boom created by the Phase 1 Enhanced Plan, I will begin the process of educating the American people on the benefits of continuing the next step to the Fair Tax. •The Fair Tax would ultimately replace individual and corporate income taxes. •It would make it possible to end the IRS as we know it. •The Fair Tax makes our exported goods and services the most competitively internationally than any other tax system.


Phase 1 Enhanced Plan – Summary

•Unites all tax payers so we all pay income taxes and no one pays payroll taxes •Provides the least incentive to evade taxes and the fewest opportunities to do so •Lifts a $430 billion dead-weight burden on the economy due to compliance, enforcement, collection, etc. •Is fair, neutral, transparent, and efficient •Ends nearly all deductions and special interest favors •Ends all payroll taxes •Ends the Death Tax •Features zero tax on capital gains and repatriated profits •Lowest marginal rates on production •Allows immediate expensing of business investments •Eliminates double taxation of dividends •Increases capital formation. Capital per worker drives productivity and wage growth •Capital formation will aid capital availability for small businesses •Features a platform to launch properly structured Empowerment Zones to revitalize our inner cities •We all know the Fed has tripled the money supply since 2008. They have been printing money out of thin air to finance the Obama spending machine. While true Fed reform that restores sound money may have to wait for my election, the best thing we can do now is to pursue policies that increase the DEMAND for dollars to help mitigate the risks associated with the increase in the supply. •Pro-growth economic policies equal a strong dollar policy

This is Herman Cain:

•Chief Executive Officer and President of THE New Voice, Inc., a business consulting company, and Head Coach of HITM (Hermanator’s Intelligent Thinkers Movement) •Former Chairman of Godfather’s Pizza, Inc. after serving as CEO and President for ten years, 1986 - 1996. In 1988 he bought the company from The Pillsbury Company •Former President of the Tax Leadership Council, the public educational component of Americans for Fair Taxation •Past Chairman of the Board of the National Restaurant Association (1994-1995), and former full time CEO and President of the Association (1996-1999) •Member of The National Commission on Economic Growth and Tax Reform (1995), chaired by former Republican Vice-Presidential candidate, Jack Kemp •Former Member, Strategic Air Command (STRATCOM) Citizens Advisory Board, Omaha, Nebraska •Radio Talk Show Host, “The Herman Cain Show”, News Talk 750 WSB – Atlanta, Monday - Friday, 7pm-10pm EST •FOX News Business Commentator and Columnist with NorthStarNational.com, World Net Daily and DailyCaller.com •At a nationally televised Presidential Town Hall Meeting on Health Care Reform (1994), challenged President Bill Clinton’s health care proposal when he said, “Mr. President, with all due respect, your calculations are incorrect…” •Served on the Boards of Directors of AGCO, Inc., Georgia Chamber of Commerce, Hallmark Cards Inc., Whirlpool, Inc.,and Morehouse College, Atlanta, Georgia •Graduated from Morehouse College with a B.S. in Mathematics in 1967. Earned his Master’s Degree in Computer Science from Purdue University in 1971. Recipient of eight Honorary Doctorate Degrees from Morehouse College, New York City Technical College; Suffolk University, Johnson & Wales University, Creighton University, Purdue University, Tougaloo College and the University of Nebraska •Author of four books, Leadership Is Common Sense (1997), Speak As A Leader (1999), CEO of SELF (October, 2001), and They Think You’re Stupid (May, 2005) •A native and current resident of Atlanta, Georgia. Married for over 40 years with two adult children and three grandchildren


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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2011, 09:49:10 AM »
wtf does what you just said have to do with the fact that he has some shmuck out of Wells Fargo in  Bumfuckville drawing up his touted 9-9-9 plan? Who does he have in mind for Chairmen of the Fed, Joe the Plumber?






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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2011, 09:50:04 AM »
Just what the country needs, a 9 percent sales tax for everything you buy.  So that can go along with you 7.5% state sales tax, and your 3% city sales tax on average so now you get to pay almost a 20% sales tax every time you buy something.  What a terrible idea. 

 

I would only go along with this if it was guaranteed to wipe out our national deficit and debt

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2011, 09:50:49 AM »
His plan does away with Fica taxes which are 15% of earnings. 



I thought they were 7.5 %.are you adding in the gov't's share as well?

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2011, 09:52:24 AM »
I thought they were 7.5 %.are you adding in the gov't's share as well?


And you have the balls to call me uninformed? 

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2011, 09:56:17 AM »

Lol oh boy. Cain admitted he fucked up huge on the stste of the economy. Are you prepared to accept the disaster he'll create while practicing getting it right during his presidency? We need someone who's been right all along. When are you old school Neocants finally gonna get it right?

great point.

neocons only hate ron paul because they've had 5 or 6 years of conditioning from their preachers at FOX news.

if Ron Paul was posing with rifles and requiring HPV shots for 11 year olds, they'd love the guy.

An impeccable 20 year record of straight tea party votes?  They hate that shit!

LMAO.... those bitches deserve another 4 years of obama.  They deserve it.

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2011, 09:58:25 AM »
9-9-9 is not a fair tax.  As has already been stated, flat taxes result in an unequal share of income being taxed on those who are less able to pay.  There is nothing fair about that.  This is not a solution unless you add in a national sales tax as well as have a progressive income taxation system.  I've posted on here before how a sales tax could reduce the deficit if spending levels remained constant.  That is a big IF of course and even then it still hurts lower incomes families more disproportionately.  
Abandon every hope...

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Re: Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9'
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2011, 10:00:25 AM »
GOP should not have run a moron on their ticket then.

You thought she was qualified.  You back Trump and Bachmonster too.

If anyone needs to STFU - it's you and your uninformed ass.

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