GH15: CYCLING TESTOSTERONA

[madg]

i do something similar as regard to ''cycle'' test for example ...now im on 750 mg test +800 mg deca will run this for 10 week then drop test totaly and do 1000mg eq and 100mg Abomb this other 10 weeks then go tren+eq+var etc so what iw ant say is that maybe pass like 6 month till i use test again

i like this better than be on test all time dunno why

sry for bad english:)

[blacksterbmw]

At the end of the day its night lol..

Just follow GH15 proto it works trust me, yes its expensive but if you want to give it ur all what have you too lose.  If you keep doubting you will always look the same and maybe never win a show, its a personal choice after all if you want to be competitive.  His phase looks like this for me
Mon - EQ 250mg, test e 250mg, tren a 100mg, prop 50mg, 10iu hgh and 10iu insulin with each meal
Tues - Teste 250, tren a 100, mast 50
Wed - EQ 250mg, test e 250mg, tren a 100mg, prop 50mg
Thur - EQ 250, tren a 100, mast 50
Fri - EQ 250mg, test e 250mg, tren a 100mg, prop 50mg
Ii take the same doses of hgh and insulin on all days of the week including sat and sun, no gear on sat and sunday.  Maybe gh15 can clarify if I'm on the right path and any changes maybe Ii should make

[lyquid]

well gh15 before use to say any 2 compounds is good for adding muscle. Test deca. Deca dbol. Test dbol. All about dose .

I believe him. About three weeks into my muttion of test only and 20 to 22lbs up.

At the end of the day its night lol..

Just follow GH15 proto it works trust me, yes its expensive but if you want to give it ur all what have you too lose.  If you keep doubting you will always look the same and maybe never win a show, its a personal choice after all if you want to be competitive.  His phase looks like this for me
Mon - EQ 250mg, test e 250mg, tren a 100mg, prop 50mg, 10iu hgh and 10iu insulin with each meal
Tues - Teste 250, tren a 100, mast 50
Wed - EQ 250mg, test e 250mg, tren a 100mg, prop 50mg
Thur - EQ 250, tren a 100, mast 50
Fri - EQ 250mg, test e 250mg, tren a 100mg, prop 50mg
Ii take the same doses of hgh and insulin on all days of the week including sat and sun, no gear on sat and sunday.  Maybe gh15 can clarify if I'm on the right path and any changes maybe Ii should make

[flinstones1]

ITS NOT ANYWHERE BUT HE PREACHES HIGH ANABOLIC, NO TEST, HIGH GH CYCLES. SOMETHING EQ, DECA BASED WITH 8+IU GH DAILY.

IF I CAN AFFORD TO KEEP THE GH, I WOULD AT ALL TIMES, BUT THIS IS JUST A MONEY SAVER AT TIMES. IM GOING TO CYCLE GH UNTIL I CAN AFFORD IT YEAR-ROUND.

disgusted doesn't reccomend to use growth hormone to get the 80's look, period. I asked him and He said forget gh,test, and slin all together and just use a shitload of anabolics.

[lyquid]

disgusted doesn't reccomend to use growth hormone to get the 80's look, period. I asked him and He said forget gh,test, and slin all together and just use a shitload of anabolics.

like deca and dbol?

[flinstones1]

like deca and dbol?

ya..i know he's a fan of tren and eq as well. Lots of great bodybuilders built on those two compounds you mentioned though

[lyquid]

ya..i know he's a fan of tren and eq as well. Lots of great bodybuilders built on those two compounds you mentioned though

test gives me great gains but lots of side effects. So I'm always looking for a alternative. Same goes for tren. Thinking of higher doses of other stuff and no test maybe test here and there.

but curious why no test do the others suggest. Same reason I don't like it cause of side effects? What's the benefts of no test.

I think my next run will be high deca and dbol. Also for a good 80s look no test is needed ur telling me? Thanks for the info.

trying lots of differant things since coming here.

[notsureifsrs]

disgusted doesn't reccomend to use growth hormone to get the 80's look, period. I asked him and He said forget gh,test, and slin all together and just use a shitload of anabolics.

Sounds good, do you know what his opinion on their diet?

[nosleep]

disgusted doesn't reccomend to use growth hormone to get the 80's look, period. I asked him and He said forget gh,test, and slin all together and just use a shitload of anabolics.

WHAT?

THATS NOT WHAT I GOT. HE SAID HIGH ANABOLICS, HIGH GH, NO TEST.

DIET WISE DONT OVEREAT, NO NEED TO GO CARB CRAZY, VOLUME TRAINING ONE BP PER WEEK.

[WillGrant]

like deca and dbol?

Nandralone, EQ,Winstrol,Tren and use Dbol as you androgen choice though Tren is high androgen and anabolic 

[flinstones1]

WHAT?

THATS NOT WHAT I GOT. HE SAID HIGH ANABOLICS, HIGH GH, NO TEST.

DIET WISE DONT OVEREAT, NO NEED TO GO CARB CRAZY, VOLUME TRAINING ONE BP PER WEEK.

check out this quote from disgusted

There is a lot of talk about drugs and cycles in this thread and on this board on general. Using steroids is NOT rocket science. Max listed some very good steroids for muscle gains that can take a guy to the limit for muscle gains and produce a very large and symmetrical physique. It is the drugs that produce the muscle size that you see on these guys, not the special training or the special protein supplements. I've met some very large and unfortunately some very dumb bodybuilders in my day. Some (not all) don't even have a clue about what to eat or have a lot of knowledge about lifting.

You also do not need to spend your life savings to add 30 pounds of muscle to your physique. Forget about spending thousands on GH. Pick 4 to 5 anabolics that you like and respond to, use two to three and at time and let your body reach it's limit in muscle size before increasing the dose. This is the biggest mistake I see guys making. Make sure to eat some good food. DO NOT GET FAT! Eat enough, but not TOO much. When you increase your dose increase the food intake but only slightly and increase all your macros pretty much proportionately. Remember, more size equal more drugs, but only when you have exhausted the potential of the milligrams of anabolics that you are on.


NO! Have you ever seen a physique built solely on 500 mg of test? First you will not get much quality muscle size from 500 mg of test. Second, guys who use test only look terrible, red in the face, tons of water retention and always a soft look. People always forget the anabolic steroids were invented to get rid of the unwanted side effects of testosterone. Also, adding GH to an already terrible look will do nothing of benefit for you.

[The Wizard of Truth]

check out this quote from disgusted

There is a lot of talk about drugs and cycles in this thread and on this board on general. Using steroids is NOT rocket science. Max listed some very good steroids for muscle gains that can take a guy to the limit for muscle gains and produce a very large and symmetrical physique. It is the drugs that produce the muscle size that you see on these guys, not the special training or the special protein supplements. I've met some very large and unfortunately some very dumb bodybuilders in my day. Some (not all) don't even have a clue about what to eat or have a lot of knowledge about lifting.

You also do not need to spend your life savings to add 30 pounds of muscle to your physique. Forget about spending thousands on GH. Pick 4 to 5 anabolics that you like and respond to, use two to three and at time and let your body reach it's limit in muscle size before increasing the dose. This is the biggest mistake I see guys making. Make sure to eat some good food. DO NOT GET FAT! Eat enough, but not TOO much. When you increase your dose increase the food intake but only slightly and increase all your macros pretty much proportionately. Remember, more size equal more drugs, but only when you have exhausted the potential of the milligrams of anabolics that you are on.


NO! Have you ever seen a physique built solely on 500 mg of test? First you will not get much quality muscle size from 500 mg of test. Second, guys who use test only look terrible, red in the face, tons of water retention and always a soft look. People always forget the anabolic steroids were invented to get rid of the unwanted side effects of testosterone. Also, adding GH to an already terrible look will do nothing of benefit for you.

Great post indeed

[nosleep]

check out this quote from disgusted

There is a lot of talk about drugs and cycles in this thread and on this board on general. Using steroids is NOT rocket science. Max listed some very good steroids for muscle gains that can take a guy to the limit for muscle gains and produce a very large and symmetrical physique. It is the drugs that produce the muscle size that you see on these guys, not the special training or the special protein supplements. I've met some very large and unfortunately some very dumb bodybuilders in my day. Some (not all) don't even have a clue about what to eat or have a lot of knowledge about lifting.

You also do not need to spend your life savings to add 30 pounds of muscle to your physique. Forget about spending thousands on GH. Pick 4 to 5 anabolics that you like and respond to, use two to three and at time and let your body reach it's limit in muscle size before increasing the dose. This is the biggest mistake I see guys making. Make sure to eat some good food. DO NOT GET FAT! Eat enough, but not TOO much. When you increase your dose increase the food intake but only slightly and increase all your macros pretty much proportionately. Remember, more size equal more drugs, but only when you have exhausted the potential of the milligrams of anabolics that you are on.


NO! Have you ever seen a physique built solely on 500 mg of test? First you will not get much quality muscle size from 500 mg of test. Second, guys who use test only look terrible, red in the face, tons of water retention and always a soft look. People always forget the anabolic steroids were invented to get rid of the unwanted side effects of testosterone. Also, adding GH to an already terrible look will do nothing of benefit for you.

YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT ACCOUNT. BUT I REMMEBER SOMEONE ASKING DISGUSTED FOR THE 80'S, 70S LOOK AND HE SAID HIGH ANABOLICS, HIGH GH CYCLES, NO TEST.

[makaveli25]

Test on it's own is garbage. Cheap shitty drug. It's good stacked with other anabolics but on it's own it's for gymrats with not a lot of money to spare. I'm running test only right now because I ran out of masteron I don't have anything to stack it with. Test only makes you look bloofy and soft.

[flinstones1]

Test on it's own is garbage. Cheap shitty drug. It's good stacked with other anabolics but on it's own it's for gymrats with not a lot of money to spare. I'm running test only right now because I ran out of masteron I don't have anything to stack it with. Test only makes you look bloofy and soft.

There was something about the Eastern European guys... I remember reading  that they believe heavy androgens (such as test) actually provide their own antidote against muscle growth...so test is kept at relatively low doses and the anabolics are used to grow.  Makes sense.. I have never met a guy who got massive on testosterone only. Test and dbol yes, eq and deca yes, but never test only.
"No One": talked about this the other day how all he needs to do is add an anabolic like anavar and it shits on high doses of test.

also can't stand the red bloated look it gives to the face, my complexion is  fucking disgusting. All those sides to look like shit and gain a few pounds of "bloofy muscle" that you cant see anyways until you come off it, but by the time you do the gains dissapear anyways lol. Test  by itself is good for one thing: looking good in a sweatshirt

[makaveli25]

There was something about the Eastern European guys... I remember reading  that they believe heavy androgens (such as test) actually provide their own antidote against muscle growth...so test is kept at relatively low doses and the anabolics are used to grow.  Makes sense.. I have never met a guy who got massive on testosterone only. Test and dbol yes, eq and deca yes, but never test only.
"No One": talked about this the other day how all he needs to do is add an anabolic like anavar and it shits on high doses of test.

also can't stand the red bloated look it gives to the face, my complexion is  fucking disgusting. All those sides to look like shit and gain a few pounds of "bloofy muscle" that you cant see anyways until you come off it, but by the time you do the gains dissapear anyways lol. Test  by itself is good for one thing: looking good in a sweatshirt

Agreed bro. It has to be stacked with some anabolics. I want to try something different. Maybe deca and dbol or real low dose of tren and low dose of test and good oral. I've been in the same rut using test all the time. It's so cheap and widely available and I can really tolerate the sides. I don't really get any except bloat.

[apply85]

zero chance he said slin w/o gh, gh15 goes into detail on test in phase 3, and npp was around before deca I believe, always been around

[notsureifsrs]

There was something about the Eastern European guys... I remember reading  that they believe heavy androgens (such as test) actually provide their own antidote against muscle growth...so test is kept at relatively low doses and the anabolics are used to grow.  Makes sense.. I have never met a guy who got massive on testosterone only. Test and dbol yes, eq and deca yes, but never test only.
"No One": talked about this the other day how all he needs to do is add an anabolic like anavar and it shits on high doses of test.

also can't stand the red bloated look it gives to the face, my complexion is  fucking disgusting. All those sides to look like shit and gain a few pounds of "bloofy muscle" that you cant see anyways until you come off it, but by the time you do the gains dissapear anyways lol. Test  by itself is good for one thing: looking good in a sweatshirt

And get yourself horny all day long

About the Eastern European guys i think it's also the food, hell i think it's a whole different thinking about bodybuilding.

[nosleep]

ALSO FORGIVE MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, BUT ONLY ANABOLICS I KNOW OF ARE DECA, EQ, PRIMO, AND I GUESS U CAN COUNT TREN. UNLESS WE COUNT ORALS. WHAT OTHER INJECTABLE ANABOLICS ARE THERE?

[WillGrant]

ALSO FORGIVE MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, BUT ONLY ANABOLICS I KNOW OF ARE DECA, EQ, PRIMO, AND I GUESS U CAN COUNT TREN. UNLESS WE COUNT ORALS. WHAT OTHER INJECTABLE ANABOLICS ARE THERE?

Water based Winstrol - Masteron though "classed" as an androgen doesn't aromatize so you could put it in with the Anabolics I guess, and it does have a higher anabolic to androgen ratio of 62/25... even halo has stronger anabolic to androgen  properties.. stacking Mast  with the above anabolics(not all at once   ) would be a good cycle.

[Schmoe Buster]

Water based Winstrol - Masteron though "classed" as an androgen doesn't aromatize so you could put it in with the Anabolics I guess, and it does have a higher anabolic to androgen ratio of 62/25... even halo has stronger anabolic to androgen  properties.. stacking Mast  with the above anabolics(not all at once   ) would be a good cycle.

Anadrol has a high anabolic rating too, seems people these days think of Anadrol as just a bloofy water gains drug but its a great anabolic for building tissue i had great results with an Anadrol and Deca cycle earlier this year

[nosleep]

Water based Winstrol - Masteron though "classed" as an androgen doesn't aromatize so you could put it in with the Anabolics I guess, and it does have a higher anabolic to androgen ratio of 62/25... even halo has stronger anabolic to androgen  properties.. stacking Mast  with the above anabolics(not all at once   ) would be a good cycle.

WELL FUCK ME. I JUST HAD THE WORSE NEWS OF MY EVER-SO ADVENTUROUS. LOOKS LIKE IM JUST GONNA LOW DOSE CRUISE UNTIL IM BETTER.

FIRST INJURY AND A BAD ONE. MEAN TIME ILL WORK MORE, GET MORE $$$ AND GET BIG A LITTLE LATER. FUCK. I WAS MAKING SUCH FINE PROGRESS.

[flinstones1]

ALSO FORGIVE MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, BUT ONLY ANABOLICS I KNOW OF ARE DECA, EQ, PRIMO, AND I GUESS U CAN COUNT TREN. UNLESS WE COUNT ORALS. WHAT OTHER INJECTABLE ANABOLICS ARE THERE?

you forgot dbol!

[flinstones1]

Anadrol has a high anabolic rating too, seems people these days think of Anadrol as just a bloofy water gains drug but its a great anabolic for building tissue i had great results with an Anadrol and Deca cycle earlier this year

love anadrol. Im gonna run anadrol and tren pretty soon.

  Is tren considered an androgen or anabolic..or is it in a different class of steroids?

[WillGrant]

love anadrol. Im gonna run anadrol and tren pretty soon.

  Is tren considered an androgen or anabolic..or is it in a different class of steroids?

It's both but doesnt aromatise like the testosterone based androgens (being a 19 nor) , it has a 500/500 ratio meaning its 500 more times anabolic and androgenic than testosterone which is 100/100 off the top of my head.

Nandralones  Androgenic/Anabolic ratio is 37/125 so you can see how powerful fina is