Author Topic: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz  (Read 14881 times)

Benny B

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 12405
  • Ron = 'Princess L' & many other gimmicks - FACT!
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2011, 05:39:26 PM »
Benny is going to hide over here until the mods move his thread, because he keeps getting the taste slapped out his mouth on the Politicial Forum.

LOL @ Tobey once again spouting bullshit.


It's like I have to take on the whole board of morons, weak-kneed sellouts and Toms, pseudo-intellectual rednecks like TA who try too hard, and the overt racists posting on this board. Luckily, I am the right man to lay waste to this board of losers.  ;D Its a fun change of pace for me...after to dealing with educated successful people all day, I can come to getbig and see the sad underbelly of America. A country filled with bitter, mostly unemployed, FOX News-watching dummies.

McMoron, you've never slapped the taste out of anyone's mouth in your life. You're soft. Oh, I'm sure you've talked tough to some Black person in the presence of whites, but you don't pop any of that shit off in an all Black environment. You get your Uncle Tom handkerchief-head ass kicked and you know it.

Why don't you put up some threads on G&O where I got my ass kicked back when I was actually posting on the politics board? We'd all LOVE to see them since you talk about this so much. I'll be waiting, Mantan...
!

Benny B

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 12405
  • Ron = 'Princess L' & many other gimmicks - FACT!
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2011, 05:42:16 PM »
nice racism benny...
Wassup, TonyMcNuts!  ;D You ready to admit you're from the south yet, or are you still too embarrassed?  :-\

I see when you perceive "racism" on my part you are quick to comment, but the DOZENS of overtly racist comments towards minorities that occur daily on this board render no comment from you. Why is that, McNuts???  ???
!

Parker

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 53475
  • He Sees The Stormy Anger Of The World
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2011, 05:45:56 PM »
TA, bascially Mr. Stanly was a mulatto who  saw that he was better than the slaves, invested in "free labor"...until he found out, he was a slave to the system...and was made to pay The Master...
Sadly, being a slave back then was inhumane, and the brain fuckery that happened for most of the US's existance, is why blacks have certain mindsets now, ie good hair vs bad hair, light skin vs dark skin, good negro,

As the KKK refers to blacks, "obsolete farm machinery",

rich people don't want ro do manual labor, and at that time, "slavery" was a way of getting very cheap labor, just like the illegal immigrants of today.

garebear

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 6491
  • Never question my instincts.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2011, 06:04:04 PM »
Its not negative and they are wrong for trying to twist it.  If a black were lucky enough to get on a good plantation, then that was the best possible place to be by far.  Food and shelter were provided, families were usually kept intact and a lot were treated as family in these large plantation houses.  

The WORST place a black could end up as a "Freed Man" in the North.  There were no opportunities to practice a trade of any kind for them, nobody wanted them around and were pushed to live in shanties or even worse conditions.  They were killed and murdered and the authorities of course would do nothing.  This was not the case in the South.  The total opposite.
This is perhaps the single stupidest post I have ever seen on Getbig, and that's saying something. It is simply amazing how many times you can be factually wrong in just two short paragraphs.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
G

Benny B

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 12405
  • Ron = 'Princess L' & many other gimmicks - FACT!
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2011, 06:16:54 PM »
This is perhaps the single stupidest post I have ever seen on Getbig, and that's saying something. It is simply amazing how many times you can be factually wrong in just two short paragraphs.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

It's frankly amazing that he would put up such bullshit on this board, or ANY board for that matter.
!

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41761
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2011, 06:24:53 PM »
It's frankly amazing that he would put up such bullshit on this board, or ANY board for that matter.

Quite ironic coming from a fellow obama supporter and donor no?   

Nirvana

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5121
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2011, 06:26:38 PM »






Benny B

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 12405
  • Ron = 'Princess L' & many other gimmicks - FACT!
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2011, 06:27:18 PM »
Quite ironic coming from a fellow obama supporter and donor no?   
???
How so PEA BRAIN? Please elaborate.
!

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2011, 06:29:01 PM »
Getbig's resident redneck goober.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaw!

Fucking lowlife piece of shit.  >:(
Listen Darkie, its your choice to remain ignorant of history and believe in an untrue, revisionist version of events, but you shall not denigrate me in any fashion.

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2011, 06:33:15 PM »
This is perhaps the single stupidest post I have ever seen on Getbig, and that's saying something. It is simply amazing how many times you can be factually wrong in just two short paragraphs.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

Do I have to go through all of this again?  I know History is a weak point with the lot of you but I urge to at least learn something so I don`t have to explain everything.  It is rather tiresome to make the same posts over and over and over again.

You do know where I live, don`t you?

Benny B

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 12405
  • Ron = 'Princess L' & many other gimmicks - FACT!
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2011, 06:36:12 PM »
Listen Darkie
I didn't need to go past those first two words...

You are indeed a pseudo-intellectual, with an ego that does not match your brain, accomplishments, or education.

You are a redneck GOOBER, in addition to being a narrow-minded, worthless piece of shit. In the game of intellect and insults, you have met your superior. I will enjoy adding you to my list of people receiving random getbig beat downs.

Ugly, inbred, big-eared, rat-faced bastard.  :D
!

Parker

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 53475
  • He Sees The Stormy Anger Of The World
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2011, 06:36:29 PM »
This is perhaps the single stupidest post I have ever seen on Getbig, and that's saying something. It is simply amazing how many times you can be factually wrong in just two short paragraphs.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

Within Southern Culture, there is this belief in that the slaves were best as slaves, than free. After all a beast of burden or a dog gets fed regularly, and shelter, once feral, they miss out.

The thing is, freedom is what you make it, and one of the benefits of freedom is you have the choice to make your own path...
Not so much as a slave, hell even the owners didn't recognize a "slave marriage", if he was tapping that woman's ass before and he wanted to some more---well he gets what he wants.

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2011, 06:42:39 PM »
Within Southern Culture, there is this belief in that the slaves were best as slaves, than free. After all a beast of burden or a dog gets fed regularly, and shelter, once feral, they miss out.

The thing is, freedom is what you make it, and one of the benefits of freedom is you have the choice to make your own path...
Not so much as a slave, hell even the owners didn't recognize a "slave marriage", if he was tapping that woman's ass before and he wanted to some more---well he gets what he wants.
Owners certainly recognized Slave Marriages.



Benjamin and Sarah Manson's marriage, however, had been graced with a formal ceremony. Benjamin, who was brought to Tennessee from Virginia as a young boy by his then-owner, Nancy Manson, later described the event in a pension application he filed as the dependent of his deceased son John: "We were married on Dr. L. W. White's farm 5 miles from Lebanon [Tennessee]. . . . Rev Ben White [a black preacher] said the marriage ceremony." The "wedding ceremony," he continued, "took place on the porch of the owner of Sarah [Dr. White]. . . . It was with the knowledge and consent of my master [Mr. Joseph L. Manson, son of Nancy Manson] and Sarah's master that we were married." Shortly after their marriage, Sarah's owner purchased Benjamin. "He [Dr. White] had me for a number of years," Benjamin explained, "then Mr. Manson bought me back and owned me till I was emancipated."

Formal marriage ceremonies for slave couples like Benjamin and Sarah were generally reserved for house servants. In such cases, slaveowners would have a white minister or a black plantation preacher perform the ceremony, and a large feast and dance in the "quarters" would follow honoring the slave couple. The ceremony could include the slave marriage ritual of "jumping the broom," which required slave couples to jump over a broomstick. The custom of jumping the broom could vary from plantation to plantation. On some farms, the slave bride and groom would place separate brooms on the floor in front of each other. The couple would then step across the brooms at the same time joining hands to signal that they were truly married. On other farms, each slave partner was required to jump backward over a broom held a foot from the ground. If either partner failed to clear the broom successfully, the other partner would be declared the one who would rule or boss the household. If both partners cleared the broom without touching it, then there would be no "bossin."

While historians and scholars differ on the origin, exact meaning, and the frequency of the "irregular" marriage ritual, most agree that the act of "jumping the broom" was a "binding force" in the slave couple's relationship and made them feel "more married."

The marriage arrangement of couples who resided on different plantations ("broad" marriages) was often the cause of great concern for most slaveowners. Fearing that slave marriages between plantations could potentially contribute to lost time from work and increase the risk of slaves developing attitudes of independence, owners encouraged their slaves to marry on the plantation where they lived. When this was not possible, wealthy owners would in some cases buy the spouse of his slave. Generally, slave men would receive passes to visit their wives on weekends, and those slave husbands, like Benjamin, who lived on a farm that neighbored their wife could visit nightly. Children of "broad" marriages were the property of the slave woman's owner, and the owner of a slave man had no legal right to their services. Between 1865 and 1867, most southern states in some form or another legalized former slave marriages and recognized the children of such marriages as legitimate.

Benny B

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 12405
  • Ron = 'Princess L' & many other gimmicks - FACT!
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2011, 06:42:55 PM »
Do I have to go through all of this again?  I know History is a weak point with the lot of you but I urge to at least learn something so I don`t have to explain everything.  It is rather tiresome to make the same posts over and over and over again.

You do know where I live, don`t you?
Ugly-ass inbred  :D
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!  ::)

The Song Sung Before The Union Troops Went On To Kick The Redneck Cracker Ancestors Of The "True Adonis"  ;D
Back around the time that northern Christians, abolitionists, free blacks, anti-slavery activists and Kansas land owners first formed the Republican party, John Brown, an abolitionist and Baptist preacher, gave his life to put an end to slavery.During the civil war northern soldiers sang this old song as they marched off to battle. After "Julia Ward Howe" heard Union troops singing this, *the original (published Dec. 1861 in the Chicago Tribune) version of the song, she wrote her own words to it's tune. Soon after, her version was published Feb 1862 in the "Atlantic Monthly" as "The Battle Hymn Of The Republic"
!

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2011, 06:46:26 PM »

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41761
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2011, 06:47:04 PM »
I love it when far lefties attack each other.   Pass the popcorn.

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2011, 06:50:40 PM »

Nirvana

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5121
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2011, 06:52:28 PM »

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2011, 06:58:42 PM »
Most Black people are clueless when it comes to their own history.  Ones that have had family remain in the South know their history and Vince Goodrum is one of them.

People such as Benny know very little about themselves and its a shame because they`d rather believe in myths that shadow history.  The North absolutely despised Blacks and the murder rate was abysmal for them once past the Mason Dixon line.  They were worthless in the North and had zero opportunity to practice a trade or anything for that matter.

Had they remained in Africa, they would have been African slaves which was a worse fate than living in the North.  



The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2011, 07:02:22 PM »
Ugly-ass inbred  :D
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!  ::)

The Song Sung Before The Union Troops Went On To Kick The Redneck Cracker Ancestors Of The "True Adonis"  ;D
Back around the time that northern Christians, abolitionists, free blacks, anti-slavery activists and Kansas land owners first formed the Republican party, John Brown, an abolitionist and Baptist preacher, gave his life to put an end to slavery.During the civil war northern soldiers sang this old song as they marched off to battle. After "Julia Ward Howe" heard Union troops singing this, *the original (published Dec. 1861 in the Chicago Tribune) version of the song, she wrote her own words to it's tune. Soon after, her version was published Feb 1862 in the "Atlantic Monthly" as "The Battle Hymn Of The Republic"


The Permanent Slavery Act

During his first inaugural speech, given on March 4, 1861, President Abraham Lincoln stated that he approved of a Constitutional amendment which would guarantee permanent slavery in the United States. The “Great Emancipator” said, "I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. Holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable." This amendment, supported by Lincoln, is shown here.





This act was passed on March 2, 1861 (The same day the Morrill Tariff was passed ) by both houses of Congress with a 66% vote. This was after the first seven states seceded from the Union, forming the Confederate States of America.

 It is interesting that we are talking about the Federal Government, and not the Confederate Government, passing an amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing permanent slavery. If this amendment had been ratified by ¾ of the states, the federal government would have been prevented from abolishing slavery in any state! Again, that is was the Northern Congress, and not the Southern Congress that passed this amendment – with President Lincoln’s approval, is to me amazingly hypocritical.

Moreover, this indicates that slavery was not the issue that caused the Civil War. Clearly the North approved of slavery, and was willing to try enacting a Constitutional amendment to preserve slavery. If the Confederate states wanted to ensure the protection of slavery, then all they would have had to do is return to the Union and ratify this amendment. Something the South did not do. The South did not ratify the Northern Congressionally passed Permanent Slavery Act.

There are many who believe that Lincoln’s support of the Permanent Slavery Act was nothing more than a political maneuver to manipulate the Southern states into returning to the Union, and thus being subject to the new 40% tax imposed on them by the Morrill Tariff. With the South importing and exporting as much as 80% of the nations goods, they would have paid an equal amount of the nation’s import taxes. All from an area which made up only 33% of the nations population. The South complained that the tax was unfair and burdensome to its population, and they were right, especially when one considers that the revenue from the tax would have been spent on Northern interests and not in the South.

The South also questioned Lincoln’s right to serve as President, as he was elected with only 39% of the popular vote. A question that has plagued numerous presidential election since then. In addition, in his inaugural speech Lincoln stated that he would not invade the South, except to collect taxes and possess tax collection stations (such as Fort Sumter). He stated, “The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the government, and to collect the duties and imposts [import taxes]; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere.” I am confident that the South, especially South Carolina clearly remembered the broken promise of President Buchanan to not take over Fort Sumter. A promise made only a few months before Lincoln took office, and broken almost immediately.

The South’s concern was that Lincoln would invade the South, abolish State sovereignty, and establish a centralist federal government, all powerful, and impose higher taxes and reduce personal freedoms. Similar to the current situation in America today.

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41761
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2011, 07:05:05 PM »
Can't we move beyond this bs already and just elect Cain to get rid of Obama? 

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2011, 07:05:28 PM »
No Friends Of The Negro Up North
From: Bernhard1848@att.net

The black families were not in need of help before the abolition armies descended upon the American South spreading destruction and devastation. Both the mayor and governor below were careful to not allow the emigration of cheap labor into their respective States. But it was Governor John Andrew of Massachusetts and his abolitionists friends who found it better to pay black mercenaries to fill Bay State regiments rather than resident whites; and since the impressed former slaves were not citizens of that State, they would not receive State assistance for their families. A good deal for Massachusetts.

Bernhard Thuersam
Cape Fear Historical Institute
Wilmington, NC
www.CFHI.net

No Friends of the Negro Up North:

(A) large number of contraband Negroes had fled to Cairo, Illinois. Seeking help for them, Brigadier General T.W. Tuttle wrote to Mayor Sherman of Chicago, saying: "I have a large number of applications from your city for Negro servants. Will you....see that they are properly put to work?" Mayor Sherman seemed to be horrified at such a suggestion, and to Tuttle's letter he quickly replied: "Your proposition to send Negroes to Chicago to work would be in violation of the laws of this State, and a great injustice to the laboring population. I cannot give my consent..."

When the Boston Post on October 30, 1862, reported that five hundred families of contraband Negroes were to be sent to Massachusetts, Governor John Albion Andrew promptly refused to permit them to come. With regard to the governor's refusal to accept the Negroes into the State, the editor of the National Intelligencer wrote:

"It...seems that the introduction of members of this oppressed race into a State where they are supposed to have so many sympathizing friends is not regarded with favor by the people of Massachusetts. So unpropitious to "loyal blacks" is the social atmosphere that it is precisely because Governor Andrew does not wish their new freedom to become license, corruption and infamy," that he declines to aid or countenance their transportation to the North. The "African" is a "brother," but South Carolina, not Massachusetts, is left to be the "brother's keeper."

It was ironic that two areas in the country which had been so hostile to slavery and opposed to enforcement of he Fugitive Slave Law were so reluctant to accept in their midst Negro families who were faced with disease and starvation and in need of help."


(The Slave Catchers, Enforcement of the Fugitive Slave Law, 185-1860, Stanley W. Campbell, W.W. Norton, 1968, pp. 193-194)

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2011, 07:07:18 PM »
http://www.factasy.com/civil_war/2008/02/29/some_surprising_facts_abut_confederacy

2. The Confederate president himself, Jefferson Davis, came to strongly support ending slavery.  So did CSA Secretary of State Judah Benjamin, Governor William Smith of Virginia, and leading CSA Congressmen Ethelbert Barksdale and Duncan Kenner (who was one of the largest slaveholders in the South).

3. The CSA's two highest ranking generals, Robert E. Lee and Joseph E. Johnston, both disliked slavery and supported emancipation in various forms.  Lee called slavery "a moral and political evil."  Johnston called it "a curse."  (Johnston initially opposed using slaves as soldiers only because he feared it would be disruptive and ineffective, not because he had any sympathy for slavery.  He later came to support the proposal.)  Other Confederate generals who supported emancipation included General Daniel Govan, General John Kelly, and General Mark Lowrey.

4. The majority of Confederate generals did not own slaves and did not come from slaveholding families (Hattaway and Beringer, Jefferson Davis, Confederate President, p. 37).

5. Thousands of African Americans, Hispanics, and Indians fought for the Confederacy. Many of the slaves who served in the Confederate army did so because they hoped that by doing so they would be granted freedom after the war or because they were specifically promised freedom if they would serve.  The same was true of most of the slaves who fought for the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War.

The chief inspector of the U.S. Sanitary Commission, Dr. Lewis Steiner, reported that he saw about 3,000 well-armed black Confederate soldiers in Stonewall Jackson’s army--he added that those soldiers were "manifestly an integral portion of the Southern Confederate Army" (Issac W. Heysinger, Antietam and the Maryland and Virginia Campaigns of 1862, New York: Neale Publishing Company, 1912, pp. 122-123; cf. John J. Dwyer, general editor, The War Between the States: America’s Uncivil War, Denton, Texas: Bluebonnet Press, 2005, p. 409).

Three Confederate states authorized free blacks to enlist in state militia units.  The first to do so was Tennessee, which passed a law on June 21, 1861, authorizing the recruitment of state militia units composed of "free persons of color" between the ages of 15 and 50.  In 1862, Louisiana assembled the all-black 1st Louisiana Native Guard, and Alabama authorized the enlistment of creoles for a state militia unit in Mobile.

6.  The Confederate Congress specified that black soldiers in the Confederate army were to receive the same pay, rations, and clothing that white soldiers received.  In contrast, black soldiers in the Union army were paid much less than white soldiers were paid for over a year.  The Union army began using former slaves and free blacks as soldiers in September 1862.  They were paid $7 per month.  Technically, they were paid $10 a month, but they were forced to pay a clothing allowance of $3, which meant their net monthly pay was only $7.  White soldiers, on the other hand, received $13 per month and were not forced to pay a clothing allowance. Thus, in the Union army white soldiers were paid nearly twice as much as black soldiers were paid.  Black Union soldiers didn’t start receiving equal pay until June 1864.  When the Confederate Congress authorized the recruitment of slaves as soldiers, it stipulated that they were to receive “the same rations, clothing and compensation as are allowed to other troops” (An Act to Increase the Military Force of the Confederate States, March 13, 1865, Section 3).  In addition, when the Confederate Congress authorized salaries for black musicians in the Confederate army in 1862, it specified that they were to receive the same pay as white army musicians, stating "whenever colored persons are employed as musicians in any regiment or company, they shall be entitled to the same pay now allowed by law to musicians regularly enlisted."

7. According to the 1860 census, only 31 percent of Southern families owned slaves. Seventy-five percent of the families that owned slaves, owned less than ten and often worked side by side with them in the fields.  Approximately half of the free blacks in America lived in the South.  The percentage of Southern citizens who held slaves was probably no more than 25 percent (some scholars put the percentage as low as 10 percent).

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2011, 07:08:47 PM »
 ;)


16.  Anti-Semitism was more of a problem in the North than it was in the South (Hattaway and Beringer, Jefferson Davis, Confederate President, p. 137).  In relation to this, it should be pointed out that the Confederate Secretary of State, Judah Benjamin, was Jewish.

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50229
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: 'Funny' Slaves: Herman Cain & Neal Boortz
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2011, 07:11:57 PM »

Lincoln wanted to move all of the blacks to Africa, favored colonization to Panama, Liberia, Haiti and wanted to put the plan in motion.  He didn`t want them here, but knew it to be impossible to do in the long run.  We still do not know if Lincoln ever abandoned that idea.

In Lincoln`s letter to Horace Greely (who happend to also live in my town with his wife) He stated as follows:
http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm
My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.


Lincoln`s intention was not to preserve or destroy slavery, but to preserve the Union.  The war was not fought for Slavery or against it, simply PRESERVATION OF THE UNION.