Author Topic: Class warfare? More Americans blame Washington (i.e. Downgrade) than Wall St.  (Read 1008 times)

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Obama's Attempt To Use #OWS As A Diversionary Smoke Screen Fails: 56% Believe Washington To Blame For Crisis And Recession

Zero Hedge is the last to cut Wall Street, with its rampant criminality, conflicts of interest, and corruption, any slack - in fact we are often the first to expose it. That said, we have long found it surprising that popular anger is focused on this particular group of individuals, instead of targeting the just as, if not far more, culpable for the current economic collapse enabling focal point known as Washington D.C. As has been discussed previously, it is no surprise that none other than the president has been quick to embrace the Occupy Wall Street movement and its offshoots as his own: after all it cleanly and efficiently deflects attention from his own near-3 year performance as president. Surely Obama is neither the first (nor last) to recognize that the scapegoating of a "minority" group (as the Wall Street "1%" clearly is) and use it as a catalyst for class warfare, is a historically very successful tactic. Well, while thousands of people may express their displeasure with their plight openly before the traditional symbols of Wall Street, it would appear that Obama is failing in his attempt at global diversion from the place where popular anger should truly lie: Congress, Senate, and of course, the White House, without whose (and by 'whose' here we clearly envision Tim Geithner, Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke) blessings Wall Street would not exist in its current form. Yet it does, and many have figured that out. According to a brand new poll by The Hill, "in the minds of likely voters, Washington, not Wall Street, is primarily to blame for the financial crisis and the subsequent recession. The movement appears to have struck a chord with progressive voters, but it does not seem to represent the feelings of the wider public. The Hill poll found that only one in three likely voters blames Wall Street for the country’s financial troubles, whereas more than half — 56 percent — blame Washington. Moreover, when it comes to the political consequences of the protest, voters tend to believe that there are more perils than positives for Obama and the Democrats." Sorry Obama, your attempt to demonize bankers (who richly deserve the public pariah status they have achieved, not least of due to the in vitro world they occupy, where anything less than $1 million is pocket change) has failed, and the people recognize that real social change, one that must and will impact Wall Street, has to begin with the commodity most often purchased  by Wall Street: politicians... such as yourself.

From The Hill:

A plurality believe that the Occupy Wall Street movement will hurt Democrats and Obama in the 2012 election. Even those whose sympathies lie on the left of center seem unsure about the likely political repercussions. Just half of all liberal likely voters — the group most likely to blame Wall Street for the recession — and fewer than half of all Democrats believe the protests will help their side next year.
 
The split on the question of apportioning blame for the nation’s economic travails corresponds closely with voters’ political ideologies: More than 7 in 10 conservatives blamed Washington for the recession, while more than 5 in 10 liberals blamed Wall Street.
 
But self-identified centrists, importantly, appear to be siding with the right on economic issues, with nearly half blaming Washington for the recession.
 
The difference also reflected voters’ views of Obama: Among those who “strongly” or “somewhat” approve of the president, most blamed Wall Street, while those who “strongly” or “somewhat” disapprove of the president blamed Washington.
 
Interestingly, those who described themselves as “not sure” about Obama nonetheless blamed Wall Street over Washington by a more than two-to-one margin, 55 percent to 23 percent.


http://thehill.com/polls/187837-the-hill-poll-voters-say-dc-worse-than-wall-street


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and rightfully so...

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56% Believe Washington To Blame For Crisis And Recession


ONLY 56%?  Holy fcking shit.  Proud of that? lol...

there's 44% of americans who won't think washington wrote the damn permission slip for all this to happen.

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56% Believe Washington To Blame For Crisis And Recession


ONLY 56%?  Holy fcking shit.  Proud of that? lol...

there's 44% of americans who won't think washington wrote the damn permission slip for all this to happen.
LOL guess you didnt read that only 23% of ppl blame wall street....

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LOL guess you didnt read that only 23% of ppl blame wall street....

Of course he didn't. Reading comprehension wasn't high on the prereqs list for French Fry U's mail-order MBA.

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Of course he didn't. Reading comprehension wasn't high on the prereqs list for French Fry U's mail-order MBA.

yeah, an mba really sucks.

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yeah, an mba really sucks.

Depending on the school, this could indeed be true.

Turn that frown upside down, br0. You live in the boonies of Florida, don't you? Passing the eighth grade is an accomplishment in those parts.

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yeah, an mba really sucks.
what mba program lets you in without a bachelors?

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what mba program lets you in without a bachelors?

???  I had a BA in elem ed.... AA in computer networking... AA in history... add'l work in MSCIS pre-reqs, then the MBA.


Yes, in boonfck florida where only 55% of people graduate high school. 

having an MBA around here qualifies me to be a Fl state senator, i think.

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???  I had a BA in elem ed.... AA in computer networking... AA in history... add'l work in MSCIS pre-reqs, then the MBA.


Yes, in boonfck florida where only 55% of people graduate high school. 

having an MBA around here qualifies me to be a Fl state senator, i think.

78%. Don't sell yourselves short. That's better than California, liberal wonderland.

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???  I had a BA in elem ed.... AA in computer networking... AA in history... add'l work in MSCIS pre-reqs, then the MBA.


Yes, in boonfck florida where only 55% of people graduate high school. 

having an MBA around here qualifies me to be a Fl state senator, i think.
ahhhh didnt know about the ba in ed and thats pretty scary

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BA in elem ed? Sounds like someone belongs on "OCCUPY WALL ST." GS's fault!

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yeah, the elem ed degree was actually packed with cool tools and skills which help in everything I do.

9 out of 20 florida kids never graduate high school.  un-fcking-real.

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BA in elem ed? Sounds like someone belongs on "OCCUPY WALL ST." GS's fault!

My Bush & Harry Browne stickers stood out like a sore thumb amidst the Gore & Kerry license plates in the teacher parking lots.

My rants on my disgust for the entitlement generation would make Drinking with 333386 look like ghandi reading a recipe book.

I hate this incarnation of the repub party, I hate this bullshit spending on both sides, I hate the welfare state.  I also hate going after social security - those people earned that $.

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My Bush & Harry Browne stickers stood out like a sore thumb amidst the Gore & Kerry license plates in the teacher parking lots.

My rants on my disgust for the entitlement generation would make Drinking with 333386 look like ghandi reading a recipe book.

I hate this incarnation of the repub party, I hate this bullshit spending on both sides, I hate the welfare state.  I also hate going after social security - those people earned that $.
who is talking about taking away money from those that have earned it?

from what i hear all talk of social security reform is for ppl that arent eligible right now...

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who is talking about taking away money from those that have earned it?

from what i hear all talk of social security reform is for ppl that arent eligible right now...

yes, if you're over 50 or whatever, you're safe.  If you're younger, you shall get fuct.  they aren't taking any less from you or me, mind you - They're just going to make us wait longer for it.  Bullshit there.

Cut welfare all you want.   Kill all that BS foreign assistance.  But the average american pays something like $350k into SS in their life.  IT's THEIR damn money.  You don't change a fcking thing about that. 

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yes, if you're over 50 or whatever, you're safe.  If you're younger, you shall get fuct.  they aren't taking any less from you or me, mind you - They're just going to make us wait longer for it.  Bullshit there.

Cut welfare all you want.   Kill all that BS foreign assistance.  But the average american pays something like $350k into SS in their life.  IT's THEIR damn money.  You don't change a fcking thing about that. 
the average person also takes out more money then they put in, that wasnt their fucking money....

guess you missed that?

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the average person also takes out more money then they put in, that wasnt their fucking money....

guess you missed that?

well, it is the agreement that the govt made with its citizens.

you can keep that agreement.  there is no such agreement that says the rich deserve cuts of X, or that the broke ass baby machines are entitled to Y.

But yes - this is cold hard cash that every American pays in.  It's their money.  They ARE entitled to it.

You can cut a lot of bullshit without messing with people's money.

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well, it is the agreement that the govt made with its citizens.

you can keep that agreement.  there is no such agreement that says the rich deserve cuts of X, or that the broke ass baby machines are entitled to Y.

But yes - this is cold hard cash that every American pays in.  It's their money.  They ARE entitled to it.

You can cut a lot of bullshit without messing with people's money.
I dont ever remember agreeing to anything do you?

you shouldnt be entitled to more than you put in by your logic as they are taking money that wasnt theirs...

the cold hard truth is that our population is aging and the idiocy and short sightedness of politicians like the ones you shill for have put us in this situation and continued to make it worse by increasing entitlements.

Remember this everytime you knee pad for obama and his entitlement programs. Dont promise ppl shit that you cant deliver just to get elected again.

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in that case - you cut every fcking handout to foreigners and foreign nations FIRST>


Rick perry supporting Dream for illegal anchor babies - but at the same time wanting to take money from hard working americans to pay for it.


insane.

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in that case - you cut every fcking handout to foreigners and foreign nations FIRST>


Rick perry supporting Dream for illegal anchor babies - but at the same time wanting to take money from hard working americans to pay for it.


insane.
agreed, still better than anything obammers or the dems have come up with yet though...

obama did they same thing with his health care bill and you seemed perfectly ok with that.

whats changed?

things that make you go hmmm...