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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2012, 11:20:43 AM »

Skins traded up to the no. 2 spot and looks like they will take RGIII.  I'd rather see him with the Skins than with the Browns, who were also trying to get the Rams pick. 
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2012, 06:58:59 PM »

6th and 38th plus 1st rd picks in 13'/14'

Putting all you eggs in one basket much?
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2012, 07:10:03 PM »

Skins traded up to the no. 2 spot and looks like they will take RGIII.  I'd rather see him with the Skins than with the Browns, who were also trying to get the Rams pick. 

I agree.  Much rather see him play in Washington than disappear in Cleveland.
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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2012, 08:46:59 AM »

I agree.  Much rather see him play in Washington than disappear in Cleveland.

No weapons in Washington really. What do you think?
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2012, 09:49:46 AM »

I agree.  Much rather see him play in Washington than disappear in Cleveland.

Cleveland is a black hole. 
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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2012, 11:09:36 AM »

No weapons in Washington really. What do you think?

Garcon and Morgan aren't awful and I think Hankerson could develop if he stays healthy.  RG makes everybody around him so much better that I think he can do it without a loaded roster.
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2012, 12:19:05 PM »

Santana Moss is inconsistent, but still a very good WR.
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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2012, 02:34:47 PM »

RGIII's arm stronger than Luck's?

07:28 AM ET 03.23 | Yesterday we saw much of Robert Griffin III's pro day workout on the NFL network. Today we have seen Andrew Luck going through his Pro Day at Stanford. How do they compare? It can be difficult to do a fair comparison because they didn't work out under the same conditions. At Baylor, the pro day was done at an indoor practice facility under perfect conditions. Ideal temperature, no wind. Stanford's workout was outdoors with cool temperature and moderate to strong wind.In saying all of this I will say that RGIII has a better arm than Luck but not a significantly better arm. Luck's arm strength is more in line with Matt Ryan's. He has plenty enough arm strength to be a top QB in the league. Just remember, arm strength doesn't make the prospect -- it's how he plays the game.

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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2012, 07:31:31 AM »

Cleveland is a black hole. 

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« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2012, 11:32:53 AM »

Mike Mayock: No red flags for Robert Griffin III
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Mike Mayock doesn't see any concerns with Robert Griffin III's character. (AP)

On the same day that a report surfaced confirming the Colts’ plan to select Andrew Luck No. 1 overall next week, expected No. 2 draft pick Robert Griffin III took some shots from a couple of unnamed scouts who, in a piece by the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel‘s Bob McGinn, said that Griffin had “a little bit of a selfish streak” and that experts “are ignoring a lot of bad tape that he’s had.”

NFL Network’s Mike Mayock has been a huge supporter of Griffin — not to mention the Redskins’ move up to No. 2 so they could select the Baylor QB. During a conference call Thursday, Mayock reiterated his faith in Griffin’s abilities.

“I didn’t see the report, and I haven’t seen any of those red flags,” Mayock said. “Now, I was only around the kid at the combine and his pro day — I spent some time with him in both situations — but I can speak much more adequately to what I’ve seen on tape.

“On tape, his character shows in his ability to win games, and (it showed) in the way his teammates rallied around him at his pro day. He has a naturally-charismatic personality that will draw people to him. Wide receivers are already lining up to play in Washington with him.”


SI’s Don Banks wrote Thursday about how the D.C. area has already fully embraced Griffin, who, barring a colossal surprise on draft day, will find himself in a Redskins uniform next season, with the expectation being that he can step in as the starter.

For his part, Griffin commented on McGinn’s report Thursday, saying: “It’s just when the draft gets closer, everybody’s going to try and find something wrong with you to try and pull you down, so I’m not going to sit here and argue that, well, that guy is dead wrong. But I think the people that know me — and even the people in the media have seen — know I’m not a selfish guy.”

Washington coughed up a small fortune to jump to the No. 2 spot in the draft. The Redskins gave St. Louis their 2012, 2013 and 2014 first-round picks, plus a 2012 second-rounder, in exchange for this year’s second selection.

Mayock, though, said Griffin’s ceiling is high enough that the trade was worthwhile for Washington.

“I give Mike Shanahan and that organization a ton of credit,” Mayock said. “You can argue all you want about if they gave away too many draft picks. But at the end of the day, if this kid is as good as he can be, it won’t matter.”

http://nfl.si.com/2012/04/19/mike-mayock-no-red-flags-for-robert-griffin-iii/
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« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2012, 06:07:31 PM »

Just wanted to pull this back up for Beach.  Grin
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« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2012, 08:47:10 AM »

lol.. not fair in the slightest... Saints D is awful..
Colts supporting cast Sucks
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« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2012, 09:00:52 AM »

It's week one. People need to settle down about RG3.

Yeah..he looked impressive but Pierre Garcon did most of the hard work on that one touchdown. He threw the pass high and Garcon made a tough catch and took it to the house. Its not like he was bombing it down the field all game.

Defenses will adjust to his tendencies as the season progresses. Then we'll see how he does.

It's comical about how Redskin fans are losing their minds over this kid after one game.
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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2012, 12:16:52 PM »

lol.. not fair in the slightest... Saints D is awful..
Colts supporting cast Sucks

True on both counts.  The year the Saints won the Bowl their defense just caused a boat load of turnovers, but wasn't good at stopping people.  Once that quit happening, because it was a fluke, the defense has been exposed ever since.

I like RGIII, but lets see him against the top defenses before we make him league MVP.
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« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2012, 02:15:37 PM »

Just wanted to pull this back up for Beach.  Grin

 Smiley  Outstanding performance by the rookie.  Looked very poised.  Still a lot of football left this season, but he's off to a tremendous start. 
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« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2012, 02:16:45 PM »

Also, I liked the way Shanahan used him.  Had him complete a lot of short passes and screens to get his confidence up.  Good running game helped a lot too.  They looked like a well coached team. 
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« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2012, 04:14:49 PM »

Through 13 games, they both have been playing very well, but edge to RGIII:

Luck
295 for 537, 3792 yards, 54.%, 18 TDs, 18 INTs, 223 yards rushing, 5 TDs

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233 for 351, 2906, 66%, 18 TDs, 4 INTs, 748 yards rushing, 6 TDs
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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2012, 08:40:46 PM »

Through 13 games, they both have been playing very well, but edge to RGIII:

Luck
295 for 537, 3792 yards, 54.%, 18 TDs, 18 INTs, 223 yards rushing, 5 TDs

RGIII
233 for 351, 2906, 66%, 18 TDs, 4 INTs, 748 yards rushing, 6 TDs
Luck will have better and longer career. I think Luck with coaching from Gruden would be awesome
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« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2012, 08:11:13 AM »

Luck will have better and longer career. I think Luck with coaching from Gruden would be awesome

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« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2012, 08:18:05 PM »

Luck will have better and longer career. I think Luck with coaching from Gruden would be awesome


Perhaps, although RGIII outplayed him in college and has outplayed him through 13 games in the NFL.
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« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2012, 09:31:58 PM »

Perhaps, although RGIII outplayed him in college and has outplayed him through 13 games in the NFL.

Luck looks more like Aaron Rodgers.
RGIIIs play puts him in a lot of danger/risk of injury.
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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2012, 09:16:09 AM »

Luck looks more like Aaron Rodgers.
RGIIIs play puts him in a lot of danger/risk of injury.

And he isn't the biggest guy in the world either.... way too many big hits for just one season.
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« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2012, 11:36:04 AM »

Luck looks more like Aaron Rodgers.
RGIIIs play puts him in a lot of danger/risk of injury.

Meh.  Not convinced.  He's not Vick.  He's primarily a pocket passer with great mobility and accuracy. 

I'd say standing in the pocket for 40 times a game is more danagerous than running and sliding.  Plus Luck has run the ball 49 times.   

You think Luck looks like Aaron Rogers??  They shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.  (RGIII either)  Luck doesn't have near the accuracy of Rogers. 
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2012, 11:48:24 AM »

RGIII was the NFL's leader passer going into week 13.  Rodgers edged ahead of him and leads 104.7 to 104.2. 

Luck is 31st at 75.5.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating/year/2012/seasontype/2
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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2012, 12:59:38 PM »

RGIII was the NFL's leader passer going into week 13.  Rodgers edged ahead of him and leads 104.7 to 104.2. 

Luck is 31st at 75.5.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating/year/2012/seasontype/2

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Luck has no running game, Washington does. Wash also has a much better D and special teams and more playmakers in all phases of the game. When Indy improves the talent around Luck, he will prove to be the superior player.
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