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Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« on: October 18, 2011, 05:24:46 PM »
A New Spending Record
Washington had its best year ever in fiscal 2011.

Maybe it's a sign of the tumultuous times, but the federal government recently wrapped up its biggest spending year, and its second biggest annual budget deficit, and almost nobody noticed. Is it rude to mention this?The Congressional Budget Office recently finished tallying the revenue and spending figures for fiscal 2011, which ended September 30, and no wonder no one in Washington is crowing. The political class might have its political pretense blown. This is said to be a new age of fiscal austerity, yet the government had its best year ever, spending a cool $3.6 trillion. That beat the $3.52 trillion posted in 2009, when the feds famously began their attempt to spend America back to prosperity.

What happened to all of those horrifying spending cuts? Good question. CBO says that overall outlays rose 4.2% from 2010 (1.8% adjusted for timing shifts), when spending fell slightly from 2009. Defense spending rose only 1.2% on a calendar-adjusted basis, and Medicaid only 0.9%, but Medicare spending rose 3.9% and interest payments by 16.7%.

The bigger point: Government austerity is a myth.

In somewhat better news, federal receipts grew by 6.5% in fiscal 2011, including a 21.6% gain in individual income tax revenues. The overall revenue gain would have been even larger without the cost of the temporary payroll tax cut, which contributed to a 5.3% decline in social insurance revenues but didn't reduce the jobless rate.

The nearby table shows the budget trend over the last five years, and it underscores the dramatic negative turn since the Obama Presidency began. The budget deficit increased slightly in fiscal 2011 from a year earlier, to $1.298 trillion. That was down slightly as a share of GDP to 8.6%, but as CBO deadpans, this was still "greater than in any other year since 1945."

Mull over that one. The Obama years have racked up the three largest deficits, both in absolute amounts and as a share of GDP, since Hitler still terrorized Europe. Some increase in deficits was inevitable given the recession, but to have deficits of nearly $1.3 trillion two years into a purported economic recovery simply hasn't happened in modern U.S. history. Yet President Obama fiercely resisted even the token spending cuts for fiscal 2011 pressed by House Republicans earlier this year.

The table also shows how close the federal budget was to balance as recently as fiscal 2007, with a deficit as low as $161 billion, or 1.2% of GDP. Those are the numbers to point to the next time someone says that the Bush tax rates are the main cause of our current fiscal woes.

Under those same tax rates in 2007, the government raised $2.57 trillion in revenue but it spent only $2.73 trillion. Four years later, the government raised $265 billion less thanks to the tepid recovery, but it spent nearly $900 billion more thanks to the never-ending Washington stimulus.

The lesson for Congress's super committee contemplating fiscal reform is that faster economic growth and spending restraint are the keys to reducing deficits. Higher taxes will hurt growth and feed a Washington spending appetite that is as voracious as ever, despite the claims of political sacrifice.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637513885592874.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop



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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 11:00:29 AM »
Bump for another Obama record.

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2011, 11:29:31 AM »
And still they try to blame the GOP.

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 06:03:04 PM »
And still they try to blame the GOP.


It will be his campaign mantra.

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2011, 07:10:06 PM »
This thread is oddly silent. Color me surprised. Don't worry, I'm going to keep bumping this.

The graph shows that Downgrade, Pelosi and co. are without a doubt the champions of spending.

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2011, 08:20:33 PM »
And still they try to blame the GOP.


Hate to tell you this but no one is being fooled by any charts.  There may be a trillion dollar deficit but most people know how it happenned and where it came from.   ::)
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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 08:22:55 PM »

Hate to tell you this but no one is being fooled by any charts.  There may be a trillion dollar deficit but most people know how it happenned and where it came from.   ::)

Stim bill, obamacare, bailouts, increased spending, increased entitlements, etc.

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 08:30:04 PM »
Stim bill, obamacare, bailouts, increased spending, increased entitlements, etc.

Bailout was before Obama took office.  Stimulus Bill kept the country from going into another Great Depression...don't know what the hell you're talking about in entitlements.


One thing is clear.  You'll be seeing Obama in the White House for another 4 years.  The GOP has pretty much goofed up and tore themselves apart
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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2011, 10:57:38 PM »
Bailout was before Obama took office.  Stimulus Bill kept the country from going into another Great Depression...don't know what the hell you're talking about in entitlements.

There's zero real evidence and in fact quite a mountain of factual data showing the stimulus has done more harm to the economy than it did help.

I'd tell you to go educate yourself but it would be akin convincing PJ Braun to go straight.

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 05:14:07 AM »
There's zero real evidence and in fact quite a mountain of factual data showing the stimulus has done more harm to the economy than it did help.

I'd tell you to go educate yourself but it would be akin convincing PJ Braun to go straight.

What did the country harm was giving the banks a blank check for 700 billion dollars.  The Stimulus kept jobs and the industries running and more than half of it has been paid back unlike the 700 billion.


But when you have excessive spending for almost a decade, its going to take more than just 4 years to clean up the mess....and the last thing people are going to vote for is the party that caused it
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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 05:17:18 AM »
What did the country harm was giving the banks a blank check for 700 billion dollars.  The Stimulus kept jobs and the industries running and more than half of it has been paid back unlike the 700 billion.


But when you have excessive spending for almost a decade, its going to take more than just 4 years to clean up the mess....and the last thing people are going to vote for is the party that caused it


Again douche -

1.  Obama supported TARP
2.  Obama appointed the co-Author of TARP to be Tres Sec.
3.  Obama appointed Goldman Sachs up and down the admn
4.  Obama appointed Summers, Rubin, Kashmiri, Gentsler to his Admn.
5.  Obama ramped up the AIG bailouts
6.  Obama ramped up the Fannie Freddy bailouts
7.  Obama ramped up the GM and Chrysler bailouts and put the UAW in ownership
8.  Obama did nothing about TBTF, Glass Steagal, Derivatives, etc. 




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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 06:54:10 AM »
He did everything a repub (not counting RP) would have done lets be honest

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2011, 07:11:27 AM »

Again douche -

1.  Obama supported TARP - was signed into law by George W Bush...nothing Obama could do to change or modify it. 

2.  Obama appointed the co-Author of TARP to be Tres Sec. - Read Number 2

3.  Obama appointed Goldman Sachs up and down the admn - So what???  They had to work for some bank or investment firm to be qualified for money management.  Pick your poison

4.  Obama appointed Summers, Rubin, Kashmiri, Gentsler to his Admin. - So what???
 
5.  Obama ramped up the AIG bailouts - AIG was part of the TARP problem - read number 1 again  ::)

6.  Obama ramped up the Fannie Freddy bailouts - They hold the majority of home mortgages, also part of  TARP - read number 1 again and again.... ::)

7.  Obama ramped up the GM and Chrysler bailouts and put the UAW in ownership - Part of TARP...how many times I have to tell you this???

8.  Obama did nothing about TBTF, Glass Steagal, Derivatives, etc....wrong again.  Obama proposed the reinactment of Glass Steagal and Dodd-Frank addresses fraudulent derivatives....but ultimately the world market controls business




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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2011, 07:12:28 AM »
Vince - that is why you are a typical 95er.     

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2011, 07:19:03 AM »
Vince - that is why you are a typical 95er.     

You're just a complete moron to think that a 700+ billion dollar bailout to the banks could be paid off in a matter of 2 years. 

The economic decline was caused by bad loans from the bank from allowing unqualified people to purchase homes and cars that they could not afford...however the deficit was caused by the Bush Administration that decided to pay for all of their mistakes with no questions asked and no stipulations for reimbursements whatsoever. 
   
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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2011, 07:22:13 AM »
The economic decline was caused by bad loans from the bank from allowing unqualified people to purchase homes and cars that they could not afford..
   

Refresh my memory - why did the banks do this?
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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2011, 07:23:08 AM »
You're just a complete moron to think that a 700+ billion dollar bailout to the banks could be paid off in a matter of 2 years. 

The economic decline was caused by bad loans from the bank from allowing unqualified people to purchase homes and cars that they could not afford...however the deficit was caused by the Bush Administration that decided to pay for all of their mistakes with no questions asked and no stipulations for reimbursements whatsoever. 
   

LMFAO.  


who forced those loans on the banks and why did the banks give them out?      

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2011, 07:24:38 AM »
You're just a complete moron to think that a 700+ billion dollar bailout to the banks could be paid off in a matter of 2 years. 

The economic decline was caused by bad loans from the bank from allowing unqualified people to purchase homes and cars that they could not afford...however the deficit was caused by the Bush Administration that decided to pay for all of their mistakes with no questions asked and no stipulations for reimbursements whatsoever. 

Everything economy is on Obamas head even the things that happened before he took office.

When a terrorist is killed though its because of the policies set by Bush.

LOL its hard to do things right for our prez

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2011, 07:26:11 AM »
Everything economy is on Obamas head even the things that happened before he took office.

When a terrorist is killed though its because of the policies set by Bush.

LOL its hard to do things right for our prez

Obama supported every single policy that is the cause of our mess now. 

Additionally - he opposed every single policy that has resulted in a "sucess" for him. 


Let that sink in to your far leftist jumble of mush between your ears.   

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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2011, 07:26:41 AM »

Again douche -

1.  Obama supported TARP
2.  Obama appointed the co-Author of TARP to be Tres Sec.
3.  Obama appointed Goldman Sachs up and down the admn
4.  Obama appointed Summers, Rubin, Kashmiri, Gentsler to his Admn.
5.  Obama ramped up the AIG bailouts
6.  Obama ramped up the Fannie Freddy bailouts
7.  Obama ramped up the GM and Chrysler bailouts and put the UAW in ownership
8.  Obama did nothing about TBTF, Glass Steagal, Derivatives, etc.  

You can replace "Obama" with "Romney" and even "Cain".... pretty similar results.


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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2011, 07:28:51 AM »
You can replace "Obama" with "Romney" and even "Cain".... pretty similar results.



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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2011, 07:29:33 AM »
Obama supported every single policy that is the cause of our mess now. 

Additionally - he opposed every single policy that has resulted in a "sucess" for him. 


Let that sink in to your far leftist jumble of mush between your ears.   

Yes he did and so does EVERYONE in the GOP Ron Poul excluded and you suck their dick all the time so whats the problem?


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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2011, 07:32:05 AM »
Yes he did and so does EVERYONE in the GOP Ron Poul excluded and you suck their dick all the time so whats the problem?



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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2011, 07:40:39 AM »
Obama supported every single policy that is the cause of our mess now. 

Additionally - he opposed every single policy that has resulted in a "sucess" for him. 


Let that sink in to your far leftist jumble of mush between your ears.   



Are you deaf and dumb???...TARP was already signed into law.  Regardless as to who took office, they would have inherited that deficit and because it was signed with no stipulations to the banks, there's no way to recover those funds.  Obama could have supported it or not supported it but it would not have made any difference... ::)
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Re: Another Obama record: 3 straight years of $1+ trillion deficits
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2011, 07:43:14 AM »
wait, obama wasn't the president treatening martial law unless TARP passed?   golly.