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Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« on: October 22, 2011, 04:55:28 PM »
Would Gary Strydom have won the Mr. Olympia if he had Bob Chicks back?

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 05:07:54 PM »
If the WBF never existed; In 1991 the Olympia results wouldve been...

1) Haney
2) Yates
3) Strydom

Strydom had epic Quads, Pecs, Calves, Delts

Yates had epic Lats, Calves... Good quads too

Haney had epic Traps, Lats, Pecs

All three were hard, cut and had decent waists w/ nice taper (Ironically none of those 3 had world class arms)

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 03:19:24 PM »
If the WBF never existed; In 1991 the Olympia results wouldve been...

1) Haney
2) Yates
3) Strydom

Strydom had epic Quads, Pecs, Calves, Delts

Yates had epic Lats, Calves... Good quads too

Haney had epic Traps, Lats, Pecs

All three were hard, cut and had decent waists w/ nice taper (Ironically none of those 3 had world class arms)

Got to see Garys arns now and remember none of these guys had oil in their arms..Now days the arms are freaky but full oil.

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 03:24:58 PM »
If the WBF never existed; In 1991 the Olympia results wouldve been...

1) Haney
2) Yates
3) Strydom

Strydom had epic Quads, Pecs, Calves, Delts

Yates had epic Lats, Calves... Good quads too

Haney had epic Traps, Lats, Pecs

All three were hard, cut and had decent waists w/ nice taper (Ironically none of those 3 had world class arms)

None of them had access to world class oil either.

Wasn't Strydom one of the first to use synthetic GH?

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2011, 03:26:01 PM »
If the WBF never existed; In 1991 the Olympia results wouldve been...

1) Haney
2) Yates
3) Strydom

Strydom had epic Quads, Pecs, Calves, Delts

Yates had epic Lats, Calves... Good quads too

Haney had epic Traps, Lats, Pecs

All three were hard, cut and had decent waists w/ nice taper (Ironically none of those 3 had world class arms)

Strydom over Vince Taylor? Taylor did beat Yates in one round.

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 03:27:25 PM »
Strydom over Vince Taylor? Taylor did beat Yates in one round.

What contest?

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 03:36:25 PM »

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2011, 03:38:50 PM »
1991 Mr O

Which round? I know Yates beat Haney in the muscularity round

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2011, 05:41:47 PM »
Which round? I know Yates beat Haney in the muscularity round

wtf does a "muscularity" round mean exactly? arent muscles judged in all rounds??

and lol at gary strysjdnrom having good pecs

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2011, 05:43:42 PM »
wtf does a "muscularity" round mean exactly?
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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2011, 05:46:06 PM »
Cock size
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I thought it was how hard you could tighten your sphincter muscles around a schmoe weeeeeder judges cock  :D

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 05:50:35 PM »
Would Gary Strydom have won the Mr. Olympia if he had Bob Chicks back?

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Would Bob Chick have finished top six in the Olympia if he had Gary Strydom front?



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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2011, 06:00:49 PM »
Got to see Garys arns now and remember none of these guys had oil in their arms..Now days the arms are freaky but full oil.
You are forgetting Esiclene...it was big back then.
Also, you can't say that today's arms are full of oil---Phil, I sincerely doubt it, Roelly as well.

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2011, 06:01:35 PM »
wtf does a "muscularity" round mean exactly? arent muscles judged in all rounds??

and lol at gary strysjdnrom having good pecs

They are technically , the names are misleading because in the ' muscularity ' round , muscularity isn't the only thing being judged , in fact everything is being judged , muscularity , size , shape , conditioning , posing , symmetry etc , the same holds true in the ' symmetry ' round

The muscularity round is typically the mandatory poses , front & back double biceps , front & rear lat spreads , ab-thigh , side chest & triceps , etc where is the symmetry round is the standing relaxed from the front & back and the 1/4 turns

The posing rounds were free posing which you still had to incorporate all of the mandatory poses and then the pose down which you did whatever the hell you wanted .

However what most people can NOT grasp for the life of them is All rounds are physique rounds and EVERYTHING is judged at once , so in a front double biceps shot , the judges are looking for who has the advantage in muscular bulk AND muscle density AND muscle dryness AND muscle balance AND muscle proportion AND correct posing AND presentation , everything is assessed at once , and one doesn't take priority over the other

If a guy has great symmetry ( Bob Paris ) but lacks muscular size , and density & dryness he shouldn't ( and wont ) win the ' symmetry ' round , same with a guy who has a lot of mass ( Art Atwood ) but lacks in shape and conditioning , he shouldn't ( and wont ) win the muscularity round

It's the person who satisfies ALL of this criteria the best ( usually ) wins the whole contest/.

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 06:06:24 PM »
Which round? I know Yates beat Haney in the muscularity round

Pretty sure it was posing

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 06:08:21 PM »
The real question is, would Gary Styrdom won the olympia if he had bob chicks back and Nassers front and Tom Platz left leg and ronnies head???
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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 06:12:24 PM »
They are technically , the names are misleading because in the ' muscularity ' round , muscularity isn't the only thing being judged , in fact everything is being judged , muscularity , size , shape , conditioning , posing , symmetry etc , the same holds true in the ' symmetry ' round

The muscularity round is typically the mandatory poses , front & back double biceps , front & rear lat spreads , ab-thigh , side chest & triceps , etc where is the symmetry round is the standing relaxed from the front & back and the 1/4 turns

The posing rounds were free posing which you still had to incorporate all of the mandatory poses and then the pose down which you did whatever the hell you wanted .

However what most people can NOT grasp for the life of them is All rounds are physique rounds and EVERYTHING is judged at once , so in a front double biceps shot , the judges are looking for who has the advantage in muscular bulk AND muscle density AND muscle dryness AND muscle balance AND muscle proportion AND correct posing AND presentation , everything is assessed at once , and one doesn't take priority over the other

If a guy has great symmetry ( Bob Paris ) but lacks muscular size , and density & dryness he shouldn't ( and wont ) win the ' symmetry ' round , same with a guy who has a lot of mass ( Art Atwood ) but lacks in shape and conditioning , he shouldn't ( and wont ) win the muscularity round

It's the person who satisfies ALL of this criteria the best ( usually ) wins the whole contest/.

Do you agree with the judges in giving to Dorian the muscularity round over Haney? And if so how can you objectively reason it? Haney was better in every way (bigger, better structure, great poser, condition was the same or very close, if not better)  ???

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2011, 06:14:17 PM »
also, if in all rounds everything is judged then whats the point in making a symmetry round, muscularity round etc. if its all really the same? in symmetry round the most symmetric guy should win period otherwise whats the point??

imagine in a powerlifting contest, on the bench pressing "round" giving the first place to a guy that didnt benched the most weight but lifted the heaviest weights "overall", in other exercises like squat and deadlifts. Thats pretty retarded.

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2011, 06:16:49 PM »
Do you agree with the judges in giving to Dorian the muscularity round over Haney? And if so how can you objectively reason it? Haney was better in every way (bigger, better structure, great poser, condition was the same or very close, if not better)  ???

I do , because Dorian had a clear edge in conditioning , Haney had the advantage in upper body and Yates lower body , I believe it was Lenda Murray who was doing commentary and she said ' Yates was like Haney with legs '

Haney deserved that win no doubts about , he looked fantastic and went out literally in the best shape of his life , the same can't be said for Dorian or Ronnie

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2011, 06:18:16 PM »
I do , because Dorian had a clear edge in conditioning , Haney had the advantage in upper body and Yates lower body , I believe it was Lenda Murray who was doing commentary and she said ' Yates was like Haney with legs '

Haney deserved that win no doubts about , he looked fantastic and went out literally in the best shape of his life , the same can't be said for Dorian or Ronnie

so why Haney won the olympia then?

and have you ever disagreed with a judges decision?

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2011, 06:20:30 PM »
lol at haney losing the "muscularity round" to yates, just lol at iffb judging "criteria". Haney was perfect and on top of that he made dorian look small the entire show, thats how apart they were that day.


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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2011, 06:22:16 PM »
Got to see Garys arns now and remember none of these guys had oil in their arms..Now days the arms are freaky but full oil.

shut up, idiot.
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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2011, 06:23:11 PM »
Would Gary Strydom have won the Mr. Olympia if he had Bob Chicks back?

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he won the WBF drug free 2x at least!!!!!

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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2011, 06:31:15 PM »
also, if in all rounds everything is judged then whats the point in making a symmetry round, muscularity round etc. if its all really the same? in symmetry round the most symmetric guy should win period otherwise whats the point??

imagine in a powerlifting contest, on the bench pressing "round" giving the first place to a guy that didnt benched the most weight but lifted the heaviest weights "overall", in other exercises like squat and deadlifts. Thats pretty retarded.

The names of the rounds were from the golden era of bodybuilding and really don't have much of a meaning today , I guess they just keep them for nostalgia

And symmetry has multiple meanings in the context of competitive bodybuilding , most think it's left/right exactness but it's more than that especially considering nothing in nature is truly symmetrical , it can get confusing. Symmetry in today's context means a small waist & hips , small joints , etc which is why Flex Wheeler was known as the " Sultan of Symmetry ' but it also structure ,  muscle balance & proportion , torso length , clavicle width , arm length in relation to the torso , leg length in relation to the torso , how well the calves match the quads , if the calves are high , same with forearms in relation to the biceps/triceps

Ronnie is pretty symmetrical ( small waist & hips , small joints etc ) but he doesn't have a great balance & proportion ( high calves , short torso , long legs , glutes you can see from the front  :-X )

But in terms of natural structure Ronnie doesn't touch Chris Cormier , Chris has naturally wide clavicles , great structure , outstanding balance & proportion , and small joints , waist and hips too , I always said Chris is the black Bob Paris


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Re: Would Gary Strydom have won the Olympia
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2011, 06:38:08 PM »
so why Haney won the olympia then?

and have you ever disagreed with a judges decision?

Haney won because he was bigger , had better ' symmetry ' and had a clear advantage in posing & presentation and deserved to win


disagree with a decision? that depends what you mean? I think Jay outclassed Ronnie in 2001 and for all intents & purposes beat him ( because back then the entire show was decided in the symmetry & muscularity rounds and the posing rounds were for the audience , I don't recall a guy winning the first two rounds and losing a contest before ) but Ronnie tightened up for the night show and beat Jay , I think Jay should have won but I have no problem with Ronnie winning , they judges obviously saw something that swayed them and I don't think for a moment contests are fixed or winners are hand picked.