Gh15 at what dosages testosterone start getting you the hypo look you mentioned?

[Bam-bam]

Im on test cyp now, thinking about adding tren and anadrols. Want to increase the test too but dont want the off seaon look, quite the contrary. On 400mgs/week I didnt have any water retation. If you use my face as a gauge I even lost some water, but thats probably because of my diet.

800-1000mg of test week is still good or will it screw the tren cheetah effect?

[gh15]

depending on age,, you were 24? i fgorgot your age,, usualy under 28 you can go ok with 1 gram  because you have higher natural gh in body,,after age 28..especialy into 30s... the more testosterona you use the more gh you will want to have in blood,,younger fellas are always growing better on testosterona ..always its law of nature,, bodybuild past age 32 is getting into the old bodybuild catagory

14-28 =younger bodybuild

29-31 = twilight zone

32-42 = older bodybuild

43- death  = vetren of bodybuilding forces

gh15 approved

[Bam-bam]

depending on age,, you were 24? i fgorgot your age,, usualy under 28 you can go ok with 1 gram  because you have higher natural gh in body,,after age 28..especialy into 30s... the more testosterona you use the more gh you will want to have in blood,,younger fellas are always growing better on testosterona ..always its law of nature,, bodybuild past age 32 is getting into the old bodybuild catagory

14-28 =younger bodybuild

29-31 = twilight zone

32-42 = older bodybuild

43- death  = vetren of bodybuilding forces

gh15 approved

i just turned 29, when I was 17 I was on 2g of test + dbols, was bloated as a pig but I was forcefeeing the whole day too. Maybe I will keep the test low then and see how it goes, the tight look is a must for me, dont want to look off seaon ever again,

[goomba420]

i just turned 29, when I was 17 I was on 2g of test + dbols, was bloated as a pig but I was forcefeeing the whole day too. Maybe I will keep the test low then and see how it goes, the tight look is a must for me, dont want to look off seaon ever again,

2 grams of testosterone at 17??? 

[Bam-bam]

2 grams of testosterone at 17???  

messed with insulin too, used to hide it from my parents inside a labradas lean body package inside the fridge  

[apply85]

gh15, why do you say start test e with tren instead of increasing test prop in phase 3? Thx god

[gh15]

because i want longer easter testosterona to bring more thickness at this stage with the hgh it shoudl work fine especialy when trenbolona is in blood,, just want to make sure testosterona remain longer in blood and add over all thickness to the max

gh15 approved

[Coach is Back!]

depending on age,, you were 24? i fgorgot your age,, usualy under 28 you can go ok with 1 gram  because you have higher natural gh in body,,after age 28..especialy into 30s... the more testosterona you use the more gh you will want to have in blood,,younger fellas are always growing better on testosterona ..always its law of nature,, bodybuild past age 32 is getting into the old bodybuild catagory

14-28 =younger bodybuild

29-31 = twilight zone

32-42 = older bodybuild

43- death  = vetren of bodybuilding forces

gh15 approved

We haven't had word in a while so here goes..........are you fucking retarded?

[gh15]

correction make it 12-28,,

liar priest....14 was already bodybuild,, steve hungary ...14 was already bodybuild,, yesyes you may think its a joke but they took it serious enough to train their ass off at 14,, and they did ,, taking hormones doesnt mean you dont need to train ,,

14-28 is younger bodybuild,, and yes i dont look into age ...the fact someone is 14 doesnt mean he cant do bodybuild,, if they can have sex in junior high now day like bunch of nymphos ...they sure can lift weights

gh15 approved

[Coach is Back!]

correction make it 12-28,,

liar priest....14 was already bodybuild,, steve hungary ...14 was already bodybuild,, yesyes you may think its a joke but they took it serious enough to train their ass off at 14,, and they did ,, taking hormones doesnt mean you dont need to train ,,

14-28 is younger bodybuild,, and yes i dont look into age ...the fact someone is 14 doesnt mean he cant do bodybuild,, if they can have sex in junior high now day like bunch of nymphos ...they sure can lift weights

gh15 approved

No you idiot, thats the problem, I don't think you're joking. No wonder why you hide behind a keyboard. lifitng weights is one thing at that age (and trust me when I say I know a million times more than you about that) but saying such SHIT makes me sick to my fucking stomach. And to think some dumb fucks on here actually take your advise

Seriously dude, do you even train?

[Bam-bam]

I tried some deca amps a couple weeks before turning 16 if I remember right.

Coach gh15 talk about whats going on, not his opinion on what right or wrong

[gh15]

No you idiot, thats the problem, I don't think you're joking. No wonder why you hide behind a keyboard. lifitng weights is one thing at that age (and trust me when I say I know a million times more than you about that) but saying such SHIT makes me sick to my fucking stomach. And to think some dumb fucks on here actually take your advise

Seriously dude, do you even train?

see this is a example of a fella on trenbolona that is past his bodybuikld days ....take a notice pupils,,  nwo to answer your blub...

14 is perfect age to start bodybuild,, almost every one of us profesionals atleast from my time started at 14-15 ,, yes you heard it right,, and no you dont know milion time abotu it more than gh15 ....because you have no clue to what serious bodybuild is,, you are somie highschool twisting coach

next time when you want to bring someone i say that you dont agree with ...try to make it something meanigfull,,

14-28 is younger bodybuild,, at 14 there are quite a few bodybuilders....they are not 200lb of shredded steel ,, but they about to do teenage and usualy go teenage and later on become little kuklos the kids,, how the fuck do you think kuklo the kid started? how do many of the top start,, we start in the  teens

dismissed

gh15 approved

[Coach is Back!]

see this is a example of a fella on trenbolona that is past his bodybuikld days ....take a notice pupils,,  nwo to answer your blub...

14 is perfect age to start bodybuild,, almost every one of us profesionals atleast from my time started at 14-15 ,, yes you heard it right,, and no you dont know milion time abotu it more than gh15 ....because you have no clue to what serious bodybuild is,, you are somie highschool twisting coach

next time when you want to bring someone i say that you dont agree with ...try to make it something meanigfull,,

14-28 is younger bodybuild,, at 14 there are quite a few bodybuilders....they are not 200lb of shredded steel ,, but they about to do teenage and usualy go teenage and later on become little kuklos the kids,, how the fuck do you think kuklo the kid started? how do many of the top start,, we start in the  teens

dismissed

gh15 approved

STFU you pseudo science bullshit artist. I didn't say 14 wasn't a good age to start bodybuilding, I started when I was 12. I was referring to your suggestion of drug use. Again, you bullshit is hit and miss AT BEST and this time your 100% wrong. GOD why does even Ron let this shit happen.

[gh15]

STFU you pseudo science bullshit artist. I didn't say 14 wasn't a good age to start bodybuilding, I started when I was 12. I was referring to your suggestion of drug use. Again, you bullshit is hit and miss AT BEST and this time your 100% wrong. GOD why does even Ron let this shit happen.

you do understand that every serious bodybuild here and everywhere on internet agree with gh15 ,, right? you understand that...this is why ron let this happen,, BECAUSE WHAT I SAY IS NOT LIES!,, you had some fight with wifey and on trenbolona most likley following my recomendation since you are twister of truth ...and the result is you goign on the meltdowns you are having now

i am right in every case in regarding to hormones because THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR LIVING,, this is what i am i am a bodybuilder!,, now! the sad part is that im right also about the none hormone related things and htis make the world a very sad place now day ,, because even what i joke about im rigth! should tell you something about the world you live in genious

gh15 approved

[Nomad]

No you idiot, thats the problem, I don't think you're joking. No wonder why you hide behind a keyboard. lifitng weights is one thing at that age (and trust me when I say I know a million times more than you about that) but saying such SHIT makes me sick to my fucking stomach. And to think some dumb fucks on here actually take your advise

Seriously dude, do you even train?

Hey, at what age did Arnold start messing with hormones?! 15-16?! Oh wait...

[Coach is Back!]

you do understand that every serious bodybuild here and everywhere on internet agree with gh15 ,, right? you understand that...this is why ron let this happen,, BECAUSE WHAT I SAY IS NOT LIES!,, you had some fight with wifey and on trenbolona most likley following my recomendation since you are twister of truth ...and the result is you goign on the meltdowns you are having now

i am right in every case in regarding to hormones because THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR LIVING,, this is what i am i am a bodybuilder!,, now! the sad part is that im right also about the none hormone related things and htis make the world a very sad place now day ,, because even what i joke about im rigth! should tell you something about the world you live in genious

gh15 approved

Yeah, whatever dude. I can find about 20 people right off the bat that would disagree with your bullshit. like I said, somethings your right about (mostly drugs) but MOST things about training and diet you're dead wrong about. When you say you do this for a living suggests that 1. You're dealer and 2. you're dealer with your head up your ass.

[gh15]

1,, im not dealer
2,, do not spit in the sink you drink from ,, very brave of you to put down fellas who sacrifice alot fo the bodybuild industry ,, with out them you would be NO WHERE,, its not nice to laugh and put down all the hard workers the way you do ,, because you and me both know that when you get off the thunderodome right before you go sleep....you shoot email to the so call dealer and kiss his or her ass,,

have respect to the ones who let you maintain size! if you cant respect them dont talk at all

gh15 approved

[Coach is Back!]

1,, im not dealer
2,, do not spit in the sink you drink from ,, very brave of you to put down fellas who sacrifice alot fo the bodybuild industry ,, with out them you would be NO WHERE,, its not nice to laugh and put down all the hard workers the way you do ,, because you and me both know that when you get off the thunderodome right before you go sleep....you shoot email to the so call dealer and kiss his or her ass,,

have respect to the ones who let you maintain size! if you cant respect them dont talk at all

gh15 approved

I wouldn't be no where? Like a strength and conditioning coach? I could careless about being anyone or even apart of THIS bodybuilding world. And shoot who an email? what the fuck are you even saying?

[gh15]

you LIVE on a bodybuild boarding,, you are on internet alot,, big part of your life was bodybuild,, you wanted to be the best ...you failed,, you truly wanted to be a frank zane,,not our fault you didnt make it,, we tried help you best we could...its not up to us what you do with your bodybuild,, just dont come and twist truth ,, you like everyone else here and anywhere around bodybuld USE HORMONES,, we all do ....

you cant just come and bash and laugh about fellas who are sources,, the fact you say i am one assume is not true ofcourse,, but the way you say it sound like you degrade them ,, they are THE BEST THIS CULT HAS,, with out them THERE IS NO BODYBUILDING,, do you get it ? with out them you wont have any clients,, you got that?

show them respect as much as you show frank zane because THEY ARE THE REASON FRANK ZANE COULD BECOME FRANK ZANE!

hopefuly nwo you got it mr hrt 198mg a week

gh15 approved

[Coach is Back!]

you LIVE on a bodybuild boarding,, you are on internet alot,, big part of your life was bodybuild,, you wanted to be the best ...you failed,, you truly wanted to be a frank zane,,not our fault you didnt make it,, we tried help you best we could...its not up to us what you do with your bodybuild,, just dont come and twist truth ,, you like everyone else here and anywhere around bodybuld USE HORMONES,, we all do ....

you cant just come and bash and laugh about fellas who are sources,, the fact you say i am one assume is not true ofcourse,, but the way you say it sound like you degrade them ,, they are THE BEST THIS CULT HAS,, with out them THERE IS NO BODYBUILDING,, do you get it ? with out them you wont have any clients,, you got that?

show them respect as much as you show frank zane because THEY ARE THE REASON FRANK ZANE COULD BECOME FRANK ZANE!

hopefuly nwo you got it mr hrt 198mg a week

gh15 approved

I play on a bodybuilding board. very little of what I say is about bodybuilding. I moderate on a real training site (not this one). Yes, when I was kid I did want to be like Frank Zane, unlike the "bodybuilders" of today he was a real bodybuilder..but that was when I was kid. I grew up.

[Meso_z]

Im on test cyp now, thinking about adding tren and anadrols. Want to increase the test too but dont want the off seaon look, quite the contrary. On 400mgs/week I didnt have any water retation. If you use my face as a gauge I even lost some water, but thats probably because of my diet.

800-1000mg of test week is still good or will it screw the tren cheetah effect?

Are you only on 400mgs of test? You look great man. I thought you had already tren in the regime.

[WillGrant]

Are you only on 400mgs of test? You look great man. I thought you had already tren in the regime.

As much as I think Bam Bam is a good guy I think he is telling us porkies about being clean and now back on at 400mgs a week just my opinion though.

[DK II]

As much as I think Bam Bam is a good guy I think he is telling us porkies about being clean and now back on at 400mgs a week just my opinion though.

LOL, he was "natural" wen he first came here, now admits to 2g of Test + Dbol when he was 17. 

I lik the guy, but he is bullshitting us all the way. 

[njflex]

LOL, he was "natural" wen he first came here, now admits to 2g of Test + Dbol when he was 17. 

I lik the guy, but he is bullshitting us all the way. 

he's searching..

[Nordic Beast]

I love how dudes nowadays start right off with their first cycle taking 750mg+ of test a week plus orals etc.

some retards out there just blowing out their receptors