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240 is Back · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2011, 10:59:44 AM »

oh i'm confused.

Palin said the constitution is based on the bible.

Palin appeared on “The O’Rielly Factor”, during which she doubled down on her theocratic vision of America by claiming that the Founders intended for our laws to be based on the bible and the ten commandments.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/theocrat-sarah-palin

SARAH PALIN: I have said all along that America is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs and, you know, nobody has to believe me though. You can just go to our Founding Fathers’ early documents and see how they crafted a Declaration of Independence and a Constitution that allows that Judeo-Christian belief to be the foundation of our lives. And our Constitution, of course, essentially acknowledging that our unalienable rights don’t come from man; they come from God. So this document is set up to protect us from a government that would ever infringe upon our rights to have freedom of religion and to be able to express our faith freely.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:04:58 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 24, 2011, 10:59:44 AM

oh i'm confused.

Palin said the constitution is based on the bible.

Palin appeared on “The O’Rielly Factor”, during which she doubled down on her theocratic vision of America by claiming that the Founders intended for our laws to be based on the bible and the ten commandments.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/theocrat-sarah-palin

SARAH PALIN: I have said all along that America is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs and, you know, nobody has to believe me though. You can just go to our Founding Fathers’ early documents and see how they crafted a Declaration of Independence and a Constitution that allows that Judeo-Christian belief to be the foundation of our lives. And our Constitution, of course, essentially acknowledging that our unalienable rights don’t come from man; they come from God. So this document is set up to protect us from a government that would ever infringe upon our rights to have freedom of religion and to be able to express our faith freely.

Wait... Now we think Palin knows what she's talking about?

240 is Back · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:05:42 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on October 24, 2011, 11:04:58 AM

Wait... Now we think Palin knows what she's talking about?

Sure, why not. 33, is palin right here?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:08:50 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 24, 2011, 11:05:42 AM

Sure, why not. 33, is palin right here?

Because that would be bending the laws of reality.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:09:51 AM »

I am not even going to dignify 240's idiocy.

240 is Back · « **Reply #30 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:11:29 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 24, 2011, 11:09:51 AM

I am not even going to dignify 240's idiocy.

cause it makes your messiah queen look like a dumb shit?

constitution = Plato?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:13:31 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 24, 2011, 11:11:29 AM

cause it makes your messiah queen look like a dumb shit?

constitution = Plato?

cAN YOU SHOW ME ONE RELIGION OR ONE GOVT THAT CONDONES STEALING AND KILLING AS A MATTER OF LAW?

240 is Back · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:17:01 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 24, 2011, 11:13:31 AM

cAN YOU SHOW ME ONE RELIGION OR ONE GOVT THAT CONDONES STEALING AND KILLING AS A MATTER OF LAW?

all of them, champ.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:18:41 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 24, 2011, 11:17:01 AM

all of them, champ.

They condone stealing and killing? Really?

andreisdaman · « **Reply #34 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:20:49 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 24, 2011, 11:13:31 AM

cAN YOU SHOW ME ONE RELIGION OR ONE GOVT THAT CONDONES STEALING AND KILLING AS A MATTER OF LAW?

I guess you don't know the history of the Catholic church huh?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #35 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:22:10 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on October 24, 2011, 11:20:49 AM

I guess you don't know the history of the Catholic church huh?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #36 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:22:15 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on October 24, 2011, 11:20:49 AM

I guess you don't know the history of the Catholic church huh?

That wasn't really "law" though... it was more of look the other way.

I don't consider the church's lack of decency "law".

240 is Back · « **Reply #37 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:22:29 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on October 24, 2011, 11:18:41 AM

They condone stealing and killing? Really?

completely. the collection plate for the cause of an invisible, unproveable entity? the "it's cool to kill others who don't believe in what you believe".

every single one of them. i believe in a shigher power, but not the man who makes a penny off it.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #38 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:23:16 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on October 24, 2011, 11:22:15 AM

That wasn't really "law" though... it was more of look the other way.

I don't consider the church's lack of decency "law".

good point..but there are written laws and UNWRITTEN laws

240 is Back · « **Reply #39 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:25:14 AM »

de jure, de facto

tu_holmes · « **Reply #40 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:26:37 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 24, 2011, 11:22:29 AM

completely. the collection plate for the cause of an invisible, unproveable entity? the "it's cool to kill others who don't believe in what you believe".

every single one of them. i believe in a shigher power, but not the man who makes a penny off it.

I still don't consider that "law".

Shady practices and using people's faith against them sure... but that's not the "law".

Quote from: andreisdaman on October 24, 2011, 11:23:16 AM

good point..but there are written laws and UNWRITTEN laws

Well, I see what you're saying, but I disagree on the point of "law".

Common Law by definition is based upon prior cases and the ability of judges to make their own decisions in regards to circumstances and the like, where most religious based laws do not.

They are finite because of the rules in a book.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #41 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:27:26 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 24, 2011, 11:22:29 AM

completely. the collection plate for the cause of an invisible, unproveable entity? the "it's cool to kill others who don't believe in what you believe".

every single one of them. i believe in a shigher power, but not the man who makes a penny off it.

For someone w an MBA - you don't even seen knowledgable of even the most basiuc business concepts.

How the hell do you think they keep the lighyrs on, repairs, plumbing bills, insurance etc you moron!

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #42 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:28:30 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on October 24, 2011, 11:23:16 AM

good point..but there are written laws and UNWRITTEN laws

Are you already self medicating yourself?

240 is Back · « **Reply #43 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:31:03 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 24, 2011, 11:27:26 AM

How the hell do you think they keep the lighyrs on, repairs, plumbing bills, insurance etc you moron!

govt tax exempt status?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #44 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:35:08 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 24, 2011, 11:31:03 AM

govt tax exempt status?

They still need to take in money from somewhere fool!

andreisdaman · « **Reply #45 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:43:13 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 24, 2011, 11:28:30 AM

Are you already self medicating yourself?

Christianity had a BIG hand in slavery..and in the slaughtering of Jews.....Not saying that it was the only culprit...Islamicism has always advocated for spreading their religion by death

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #46 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:44:03 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on October 24, 2011, 11:43:13 AM

Christianity had a BIG hand in slavery..and in the slaughtering of Jews.....Not saying that it was the only culprit...Islamicism has always advocated for spreading their religion by death

What religion enslaved the Jews in egypt?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #47 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:46:19 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on October 24, 2011, 11:43:13 AM

Christianity had a BIG hand in slavery..and in the slaughtering of Jews.....Not saying that it was the only culprit...Islamicism has always advocated for spreading their religion by death

Slaughtering of Jews was christian based? Really?

This quote doesn't seem to agree with that.

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."

MCWAY · « **Reply #48 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:06:53 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on October 24, 2011, 10:54:53 AM

Thou shall not kill and thou shall not steal are the only laws in the Bible that we still have under common law... and those laws are well... Common.

You shouldn't kill people or steal from them... I had no idea that not killing and not stealing were inherently "Christian".

Not necessarily. "Thou shalt not commit adultery" and "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" are also part of our common law.

The adultery law has been around in this country for centuries, though it has been reduced to a tack-on foul, usually in cases of divorce. However, in the Armed Forced, committing adultery is grounds for dismissal and an dishonorable discharge.

Bearing false witness? We call that perjury, and that can land you in the slammer.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #49 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:09:31 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on October 24, 2011, 12:06:53 PM

Not necessarily. "Thou shalt not commit adultery" and "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" are also part of our common law.

The adultery law has been around in this country for centuries, though it has been reduced to a tack-on foul, usually in cases of divorce. However, in the Armed Forced, committing adultery is grounds for dismissal and an dishonorable discharge.

Bearing false witness? We call that perjury, and that can land you in the slammer.

The adultery law is not a "crime" it's a civil item... You can not go to jail or prison for it.

The 9th commandment is only a part of U.S. law if you agree with the interpretation that this refers to Perjury. Most interpretations consider this as a general injunction against lying. If this view is taken, then it is not law. Providing no other person is harmed, a person is free to make up any story they see fit.