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Senator Durbin’s Stealth Move against Supplements

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Posted on October 25, 2011 9:55:05 PM EDT by truthfinder9


Since he’s having trouble getting his own bill passed, he’s trying a different approach to get the same results.

For weeks we have been telling you about Sen. Dick Durbin’s disastrous Dietary Supplement Labeling Act, which attempts to impose harsh limits on supplement availability by giving the FDA major new powers to make arbitrary standards and rules that will curtail supplement sales.

Initially it orders the FDA to compile, with help from the Institute of Medicine, a list of dietary ingredients (read: supplements) that could lead to adverse events or are otherwise deemed risky in some way. But creating lists of “bad” ingredients or “bad” doses based on completely arbitrary or non-existent standards is a slippery slope.

Now Sen. Durbin has proposed an amendment to an appropriations (budget) bill, which is a sneaky way of getting controversial laws passed without too much attention. The amendment would have the Government Accountability Office (GAO) assess the effectiveness and utility of the FDA’s adverse event reporting (AER) system, and report to Congress on what actions FDA is taking to ensure that dietary supplement manufacturers are reporting adverse events; how the AER system “informs the public” of FDA’s efforts to protect consumers; and, most especially, whether FDA has implemented the recommendations GAO made in its 2009 report on dietary supplements.

Buried in the GAO’s recommendations in its 2009 report are some of the same provisions that are also in Durbin’s unpopular Dietary Supplement Labeling Act. In our article on the report, we noted that the GAO recommended:

•increased supplement labeling regulations—one of the Durbin bill’s main goals; •a clear delineation to be made between food and supplements—a first step toward treating supplements as drugs—this is also in the Durbin bill, and it’s the particular clause we feared he would slip into the appropriations bill; and •an increase in AER requirements: currently only severe adverse events must be reported, but this would force AERs to be filed even for the most minor events.

The GAO undermined its own recommendation in the report by acknowledging that “FDA officials told us that the current regulatory framework is sufficient to identify and act on safety concerns regarding foods with added dietary ingredients.” This supports ANH-USA’s assertion that the FDA is already well equipped and needs no additional authority to do its job.

Furthermore, the number of supplement AERs is quite low—only 1,080 in 2008. And keep in mind that over half the US population (at least 154 million individuals) take nutritional supplements, according to data from 2007 National Health Interview Survey. The supplement AER figure is even lower when compared to the 526,527 prescription drug AERs in 2008. In other words, for every adverse event from supplements, there are 488 adverse events from prescription drugs!

Remember that it took the deaths of 55,000 Americans before FDA considered pulling Vioxx off the shelves.

The fact that Sen. Durbin has suggested this appropriations amendment indicates that he no longer has high hopes for the Durbin bill. Thanks to all the messages you’ve been sending Congress, he is having a difficult time gaining support for it—he has only been able to find one senator so far who is willing to co-sponsor his bill—and so he’s trying to pressure FDA into implementing the bill’s goals via the regulatory system. We believe it is also an attempt to lay stronger groundwork to push his bill through legislatively, once he gets the ball rolling and FDA starts to treat supplements more like drugs.

We should also note that Sen. Durbin was the architect of the current AER system, but he was unhappy with the political compromise that was struck when the law was passed originally—Sens. Hatch and Harkin agreed to a reporting system so long as it was only for severe events. Now we see Durbin pushing a requirement to have all adverse events be reported, no matter how minor.

What Sen. Durbin clearly wants is for every supplement to be approved by the FDA before it is sold. Everything he does is intended to move things in that direction.

There are fundamental objections to this. First, the FDA is biased in favor of drugs, probably because drugs pay the FDA’s bills. Since the agency sees supplements as competition for drugs, not many will be approved. Second, the agency will demand supplement trials just like drug trials—which is not appropriate for supplements. Supplements are like food: it is the combination and balance of what you take that matters, not just the effect of one pill. Third, the cost of complying with the pre-approval process will make supplements, already beyond many people’s budget, too expensive for all but the rich.

If this powerful senator can’t win using the direct approach, he’ll try an end-run. It may be politics as usual, but when it affects your family’s health, it’s time to fight back. We’ll keep you posted on the maneuvering around appropriations bills.

In the meantime, if you haven’t yet sent a message to Congress about the Durbin bill, please do it now! But just as important, the appropriations bill is scheduled to be voted on by next Monday, October 31, at which time Sen. Durbin will try to add his amendment. Please write your senators today and stop this language dead in its tracks!

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 07:16:29 PM »
Another one of these ' feel good ' laws that mean shit in reality and try and justify their existence ,makes them look like their actually doing their job.

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2011, 07:30:13 PM »
that piece of shit durbin is responsible for the $5 dollar monthly atm service charges at bank of america!

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2011, 07:39:17 PM »
Why don't they just keep their filthy noses out of the people's buisness. Fuck him!

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2011, 07:46:52 PM »
Why don't they just keep their filthy noses out of the people's buisness. Fuck him!

No shit , these morons are all hypocrites anyway , start looking into their shady dealings. These nonsense politicians are the ones that made steroids illegal without a prescriptions , I don't do steroids but people should be able to buy them legally without any bullshit , they want to turn people into criminals over nonsense. The legal prescriptions cause more damage than most gear. 

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 07:49:41 PM »
the entire war on "drugs" is a complete farce. 

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2011, 07:50:57 PM »
the entire war on "drugs" is a complete farce. 

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2011, 07:51:44 PM »
No shit , these morons are all hypocrites anyway , start looking into their shady dealings. These nonsense politicians are the ones that made steroids illegal without a prescriptions , I don't do steroids but people should be able to buy them legally without any bullshit , they want to turn people into criminals over nonsense. The legal prescriptions cause more damage than most gear. 

Agreed. So many laws are just moralistic bs. Very random.

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 07:53:40 PM »
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I am not a drug user but when you think of the cops, drug counselers, judges, prison guards, court officers, DEA, FBI, CIA, ATF, DA,s , all employed by this scam its a disgrace!  


taxpayers funding these idiots for an imaginary enemy.

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 07:57:15 PM »
I am not a drug user but when you think of the cops, drug counselers, judges, prison guards, court officers, DEA, FBI, CIA, ATF, DA,s , all employed by this scam its a disgrace!  


taxpayers funding these idiots for an imaginary enemy.

same here, no drug user, but the war on drugs is a big war on privacy and the right to lead your life the way you want to.

Especially in an overpopulated world, let as many fuckers as want die from their drugs, no problem with that. It's basically darwin's laws at work.

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2011, 07:59:32 PM »
I am not a drug user but when you think of the cops, drug counselers, judges, prison guards, court officers, DEA, FBI, CIA, ATF, DA,s , all employed by this scam its a disgrace!  


taxpayers funding these idiots for an imaginary enemy.

Yeah absurd amounts of money are spent in the 'war against drugs'. They need to try another approach. I don't know exactly what should be done but legalization to some extent and also to fight poverty (including in the countries that produce the drugs).

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 08:02:24 PM »
if you ended the War on Drugs, tens of thousands of law enforcement idiots would be out of work asap, 

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2011, 09:22:50 PM »
Or as Mark Levine calls him "Little Dick Durbin"

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 09:28:25 PM »
Turban Durbin up to his Dirty Dick tricks again.

Wanna end the War on Drugs?  Whenever anyone is charged with possession, intent to sell, etc.....if the drug in their possession can be traced to be of Mexican origin, throw Terrorism charges at them on top of the drug charges..........drugged up Americans are every bit as responsible for the killings of thousands of innocents in Mexico.

Ok, maybe it won't..but what we're doing now isn't working.  And I'd be leery of mass legalization.  The roads are bad enough with alcoholics driving on them, not sure if adding dope-addled people would make anything safer......and I don't feel like trading in the Hummer for an F350 or a bigger monstrosity so I'd be safer.

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 06:50:57 AM »



Wonder how much the pharmaceutical lobbyists have contributed to Senator Durbin campaigns?   What interests does he have in the pharmaceutical companies? 


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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 07:34:35 AM »
Senator Durbin’s Stealth Move against Supplements

http://www.anh-usa.org/senator-durbin-stealth-move-against-supplements/ ^

Posted on October 25, 2011 9:55:05 PM EDT by truthfinder9


Since he’s having trouble getting his own bill passed, he’s trying a different approach to get the same results.

For weeks we have been telling you about Sen. Dick Durbin’s disastrous Dietary Supplement Labeling Act, which attempts to impose harsh limits on supplement availability by giving the FDA major new powers to make arbitrary standards and rules that will curtail supplement sales.

Initially it orders the FDA to compile, with help from the Institute of Medicine, a list of dietary ingredients (read: supplements) that could lead to adverse events or are otherwise deemed risky in some way. But creating lists of “bad” ingredients or “bad” doses based on completely arbitrary or non-existent standards is a slippery slope.

Now Sen. Durbin has proposed an amendment to an appropriations (budget) bill, which is a sneaky way of getting controversial laws passed without too much attention. The amendment would have the Government Accountability Office (GAO) assess the effectiveness and utility of the FDA’s adverse event reporting (AER) system, and report to Congress on what actions FDA is taking to ensure that dietary supplement manufacturers are reporting adverse events; how the AER system “informs the public” of FDA’s efforts to protect consumers; and, most especially, whether FDA has implemented the recommendations GAO made in its 2009 report on dietary supplements.

Buried in the GAO’s recommendations in its 2009 report are some of the same provisions that are also in Durbin’s unpopular Dietary Supplement Labeling Act. In our article on the report, we noted that the GAO recommended:

•increased supplement labeling regulations—one of the Durbin bill’s main goals; •a clear delineation to be made between food and supplements—a first step toward treating supplements as drugs—this is also in the Durbin bill, and it’s the particular clause we feared he would slip into the appropriations bill; and •an increase in AER requirements: currently only severe adverse events must be reported, but this would force AERs to be filed even for the most minor events.

The GAO undermined its own recommendation in the report by acknowledging that “FDA officials told us that the current regulatory framework is sufficient to identify and act on safety concerns regarding foods with added dietary ingredients.” This supports ANH-USA’s assertion that the FDA is already well equipped and needs no additional authority to do its job.

Furthermore, the number of supplement AERs is quite low—only 1,080 in 2008. And keep in mind that over half the US population (at least 154 million individuals) take nutritional supplements, according to data from 2007 National Health Interview Survey. The supplement AER figure is even lower when compared to the 526,527 prescription drug AERs in 2008. In other words, for every adverse event from supplements, there are 488 adverse events from prescription drugs!

Remember that it took the deaths of 55,000 Americans before FDA considered pulling Vioxx off the shelves.

The fact that Sen. Durbin has suggested this appropriations amendment indicates that he no longer has high hopes for the Durbin bill. Thanks to all the messages you’ve been sending Congress, he is having a difficult time gaining support for it—he has only been able to find one senator so far who is willing to co-sponsor his bill—and so he’s trying to pressure FDA into implementing the bill’s goals via the regulatory system. We believe it is also an attempt to lay stronger groundwork to push his bill through legislatively, once he gets the ball rolling and FDA starts to treat supplements more like drugs.

We should also note that Sen. Durbin was the architect of the current AER system, but he was unhappy with the political compromise that was struck when the law was passed originally—Sens. Hatch and Harkin agreed to a reporting system so long as it was only for severe events. Now we see Durbin pushing a requirement to have all adverse events be reported, no matter how minor.

What Sen. Durbin clearly wants is for every supplement to be approved by the FDA before it is sold. Everything he does is intended to move things in that direction.

There are fundamental objections to this. First, the FDA is biased in favor of drugs, probably because drugs pay the FDA’s bills. Since the agency sees supplements as competition for drugs, not many will be approved. Second, the agency will demand supplement trials just like drug trials—which is not appropriate for supplements. Supplements are like food: it is the combination and balance of what you take that matters, not just the effect of one pill. Third, the cost of complying with the pre-approval process will make supplements, already beyond many people’s budget, too expensive for all but the rich.

If this powerful senator can’t win using the direct approach, he’ll try an end-run. It may be politics as usual, but when it affects your family’s health, it’s time to fight back. We’ll keep you posted on the maneuvering around appropriations bills.

In the meantime, if you haven’t yet sent a message to Congress about the Durbin bill, please do it now! But just as important, the appropriations bill is scheduled to be voted on by next Monday, October 31, at which time Sen. Durbin will try to add his amendment. Please write your senators today and stop this language dead in its tracks!


This dude is doing the whole cult a favor.  The amount of money kids piss away on bunk supps is crazy.  Everyone, EVERYONE would be better off spending their money on real food and anabolics than any of the shit supps out there.

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 12:23:26 PM »
This dude is doing the whole cult a favor.  The amount of money kids piss away on bunk supps is crazy.  Everyone, EVERYONE would be better off spending their money on real food and anabolics than any of the shit supps out there.
It's too bad bodybuilding is tied to the supplement industry when it has nothing to do with supplements.  BB can really never stand on it's own two feet while having to hide behind the supplement lie. 

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2011, 12:31:32 PM »
Not a supplement fan but it's better kids buy supplements than other shit.
It's simple... some folks enjoy something so a certain someone, Mr. Turd-in, is hellbent on destroying the fun.
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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2011, 12:37:19 PM »
what a jerk

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2011, 01:51:16 PM »

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2011, 01:54:36 PM »
maybe his wife needs a high dose of man's protein down her throat

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2011, 01:56:59 PM »
Maybe creatine didn't work for him.  ;D

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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2011, 02:01:34 PM »
Maybe creatine didn't work for him.  ;D

Maybe he just wants to pave the way for pharma grade supplements.
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Re: Senator Dick Durbin trying to outlaw Supplements out of existence.
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2011, 02:15:03 PM »
trying to hate on the industry jenna jameson helped to build :(