H I T and arm size?????

[MrBigandCut]

Is it just me or is it a fact that anybody doing H.I.T weight training seems to induce good size for major body parts like chest back and legs but arms seem grossly undersized always? Even Dorains arms never seemed as big as they could be? Therefore could we conclude from this that arms in general need more work or sets to make them grow to there full potential! Or is it just a case of adding more oil these days?

[kevinf]

its a case of drugs and genetics you idiot

[Figo]

the mentzers had good arms

[DK II]

the mentzers had good arms

The mentzers had good drugs. 

[TrueGrit]

the mentzers had good arms

But did they actually build them with HIT training? Anecdotal accounts claim they did the same shit as everyone else for a long time before switching.

[Dr Dutch]

Is it just me or is it a fact that anybody doing H.I.T weight training seems to induce good size for major body parts like chest back and legs but arms seem grossly undersized always? Even Dorains arms never seemed as big as they could be? Therefore could we conclude from this that arms in general need more work or sets to make them grow to there full potential! Or is it just a case of adding more oil these days?

Dorians calves were huge too and very underestimated...

[Meso_z]

Fucking stupid "training protocols". Just fucking train.

[calfzilla]

I only use hit because it is quick. I have better things to do than hang in the gym all day. Plus we get the same results from every workout so it dont matter.

[tlc]

I only use hit because it is quick. I have better things to do than hang in the gym all day. Plus we get the same results from every workout so it dont matter.

QFT

[Figo]

The mentzers had good drugs. 

the mentzers had good dealers 

[Figo]

But did they actually build them with HIT training? Anecdotal accounts claim they did the same shit as everyone else for a long time before switching.

well, thats another thread altogether, a 100+ pager..
mentzer was obviously the biggest proponent and the poster boy for HIT, aside from jones and darden, but aside from the marketing of HIT, did he get there with low volume, dont think so.

then again, yates and mentzer advocated 1 set per exercise, much like cardillo was doing in the 80s too, but people saw them doing 3 sets of an exercise, they claimed it was warm-up sets, and only the final one was a working set... to an observer, it looked pretty much like standard pyramid sets

viator was a great example of someone that marketed HIT, but didnt follow it
 

[DK II]

well, thats another thread altogether, a 100+ pager..
mentzer was obviously the biggest proponent and the poster boy for HIT, aside from jones and darden, but aside from the marketing of HIT, did he get there with low volume, dont think so.

then again, yates and mentzer advocated 1 set per exercise, much like cardillo was doing in the 80s too, but people saw them doing 3 sets of an exercise, they claimed it was warm-up sets, and only the final one was a working set... to an observer, it looked pretty much like standard pyramid sets

viator was a great example of someone that marketed HIT, but didnt follow it
 

Yep, that whole "1 set" only make up is bullshit, you do 3-4 "warm up sets" and then 1 "work set", wtf?

[Figo]

Yep, that whole "1 set" only make up is bullshit, you do 3-4 "warm up sets" and then 1 "work set", wtf?

the theory of HIT was very nice, train your body over a period of 7-10 days, go in, do 1 set of super-heavy curls, and go home.

eat very little food, body only needs 5.0076 grms protein per day, to put on 3.87433 lbs of pure muscle per year, which amounts to 38.7433 lbs in 10 yrs, incidentally 3.87433 lbs is the maximum muscle one can gain in a yr.

if you feel slightly overtrained, take a month or two off

read ayn rand

[DK II]

the theory of HIT was very nice, train your body over a period of 7-10 days, go in, do 1 set of super-heavy curls, and go home.

eat very little food, body only needs 5.0076 grms protein per day, to put on 3.87433 lbs of pure muscle per year, which amounts to 38.7433 lbs in 10 yrs, incidentally 3.87433 lbs is the maximum muscle one can gain in a yr.

if you feel slightly overtrained, take a month or two off

read ayn rand

LOL!!

[dyslexic]

The Mentzer brothers had big arms long before they ever advocated the stolen *theory* of H.I.T.


Ayn Rand and her "objectivism" is a boring philosophy. You may as well read Aliester Crowley's "Book of Lies" while you're at it.


If you really want to know where Mikey started coming up with this stuff, start looking for the writings of Arthur Jones and his Nautilus equipment and the Casey Viator Colorado experiment. (another lie) 

[Figo]

The Mentzer brothers had big arms long before they ever advocated the stolen *theory* of H.I.T.


Ayn Rand and her "objectivism" is a boring philosophy. You may as well read Aliester Crowley's "Book of Lies" while you're at it.


If you really want to know where Mikey started coming up with this stuff, start looking for the writings of Arthur Jones and his Nautilus equipment and the Casey Viator Colorado experiment. (another lie) 

this!

[MrBigandCut]

Mark Dugdales arms were said to basically disappear when he did H.I.T and D Wolfs didnt really grow much either on it! Couldnt ever undestand why so many people listened to a guy who probably only had 11 inch arms or less ie Arthur Jones! Just goes to prove anyone can sell a training system and equipment and you dont have to have 20+ arms to do it! just a strong personality i guess? Still say it does nothin for your arms as arms = more sets & drugs. HIT and drugs not good enough for arms!

[Figo]

jones mustve been a marketing genius, and he had guns

never used a nautilus piece of equipment, but some machines are highly regarded..

[Dr Dutch]

Mark Dugdales arms were said to basically disappear when he did H.I.T and D Wolfs didnt really grow much either on it!

But Dennis' calves got huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.... .

[MrBigandCut]

calves & back definately grow on it ! Dorian classic example 

[Meso_z]

the theory of HIT was very nice, train your body over a period of 7-10 days, go in, do 1 set of super-heavy curls, and go home.

eat very little food, body only needs 5.0076 grms protein per day, to put on 3.87433 lbs of pure muscle per year, which amounts to 38.7433 lbs in 10 yrs, incidentally 3.87433 lbs is the maximum muscle one can gain in a yr.

if you feel slightly overtrained, take a month or two off

read ayn rand

[farrellzach]

the mentzers had good dealers 

The Mentzer's dealers had good drugs

[MB]

The Mentzer brothers had big arms long before they ever advocated the stolen *theory* of H.I.T.


Ayn Rand and her "objectivism" is a boring philosophy. You may as well read Aliester Crowley's "Book of Lies" while you're at it.


If you really want to know where Mikey started coming up with this stuff, start looking for the writings of Arthur Jones and his Nautilus equipment and the Casey Viator Colorado experiment. (another lie) 

Agreed.  Read Arthur Jones and save your time.  Mike made a good living off of Arthur's work.     

[ipne]

who couldn't use bigger arms

[dj181]

AJ supposedly had 17 1/4 inch arms at a bodyweight of 205 at 5'8" and he was a lifetime natural.