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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2011, 09:21:29 PM »
Why? I can understand California becuase they drive businesses out of the state. But other states should take interest.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2011, 09:36:07 PM »
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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2011, 09:43:08 PM »
This....but we are starting another speed camp on Guam.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2011, 01:55:24 AM »
I agree, tax incentives and less regulations are the way to go, other than that I don't support interfering and keeping companies alive artificially w subsidies, not even in the start up phase

the state has no place in encouraging "entrepreneurship" whatever the fuck that word's supposed to mean in american vernacular

Not sure if serious?

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2011, 02:38:45 AM »
“If foreign governments want to use their taxpayers money to sell people in the United States goods below cost, why should we complain? Their own taxpayers will complain soon enough and it will not last for very long. History provides lots of evidence on what happens when government protected industries compete with industries who have to operate in an open and free market. It’s almost always the goverment protected industries that come out second best. Ask Sir Freddy Laker, the englishman who introduced low cost airtraffic across the Atlantic, who were his chief competitors? They were all government protected, government financed, government regulated airlines. He came out very well, made a lot (?) of money and you and I have gotten cheaper travel across the Atlantic. Nothing could promote the long run health of the steel industry, make it into a more efficient, profitable and productive industry then for the US government to keep its hands off. Neither providing special privileges nor imposing special restraints and what’s true for the steel industry is true for every other industry in the country” - Milton Friedman

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2011, 12:44:37 PM »
incentivize venture capital with tax breaks when the startup turns a profit. If the thing goes belly up its a tax write-off. If you'll give to charity as a tax write off you'll have a punt on a flash harry with an idea.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2011, 12:58:36 PM »













I could care less about the the people.



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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2011, 01:23:43 PM »
entrepreneurship = lame

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2011, 07:16:41 AM »
Bullshit, they FORCE them to outsource.

no one is forcing these companies to outsource LOL, they choose to do so because they are greedy and want to pay forgein works shit money.  The companies are greedy, end of point.  They are also un American in what they are doing, they don't care about America, they care about their companies stock price and their paycheck, they are traitors.



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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2011, 08:05:30 AM »
no one is forcing these companies to outsource LOL, they choose to do so because they are greedy and want to pay forgein works shit money.  The companies are greedy, end of point.  They are also un American in what they are doing, they don't care about America, they care about their companies stock price and their paycheck, they are traitors.





Dude, I don't know where you're getting your info from. But when you start regulating and taxing the shit out of companies they are FORCED to make cuts to survive. So you go back and tell your little leftist professor (because thats the only place where a kid that still lives with his parents learns this shit from) to suck a dick. You have NO clue on how the business world works let alone life.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2011, 08:08:00 AM »
What kind of SME and entrepreneurship policies do you think are the best?
A LLC (Limited Liability Corporation) in the USA is the cheapest and best way to go.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2011, 11:04:58 AM »
I agree, tax incentives and less regulations are the way to go, other than that I don't support interfering and keeping companies alive artificially w subsidies, not even in the start up phase

Not sure if serious?
there are countries with zero regulations and (close to) zero taxes. no minimum wage, no maximum work day, no worker saftey laws, no environmental protections, etc. unless you willing to forgoe all of those regulations and cut taxes down to nothing.. then your plan will NEVER be successful, as business will ALWAYS go to where it cheapest to produce. basic economics son.  so you have two options... either eliminate a few hundred years of progress and revert to basically slav labor and massive pollution ....   or  do something like what reepingfor20 advocates here=

we should not be competing in a global market, enough with that fair trade shit, stop letting businesses outsource, or penalize them for doing so.  Put a tariff on all goods coming into this country so it is not a viable option for companies to use cheap products from China, will take walmart out of the equation.  Create jobs here, manufacturing, etc etc.  We cannot compete with people making goods for 1$ an hour.  Unless you want that to be your standard of living too.


and then once we have our own countries running smoothly we can open up free trade globally, but only when the other countries agree to all the same regulations and protections that we have, as well as equal tax rates.  the economic concept of  "comparative advantage" which dictates that free trade makes the entire world better doesnt allow for variables in regulations, taxes. and thats why free trade doesnt work like it should.



Dude, I don't know where you're getting your info from. But when you start regulating and taxing the shit out of companies they are FORCED to make cuts to survive. So you go back and tell your little leftist professor (because thats the only place where a kid that still lives with his parents learns this shit from) to suck a dick. You have NO clue on how the business world works let alone life.
idiot, companies started outsourcing jobs overseas during times when they were already making record profits. they werent forced to outsource. they chose to in order to make more money.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2011, 11:07:05 AM »
there are countries with zero regulations and (close to) zero taxes. no minimum wage, no maximum work day, no worker saftey laws, no environmental protections, etc. unless you willing to forgoe all of those regulations and cut taxes down to nothing.. then your plan will NEVER be successful, as business will ALWAYS go to where it cheapest to produce. basic economics son.  so you have two options... either eliminate a few hundred years of progress and revert to basically slav labor and massive pollution ....   or  do something like what reepingfor20 advocates here=


and then once we have our own countries running smoothly we can open up free trade globally, but only when the other countries agree to all the same regulations and protections that we have, as well as equal tax rates.  the economic concept of  "comparative advantage" which dictates that free trade makes the entire world better doesnt allow for variables in regulations, taxes. and thats why free trade doesnt work like it should.


 idiot, companies started outsourcing jobs overseas during times when they were already making record profits. they werent forced to outsource. they chose to in order to make more money.

How's YOUR business going?

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2011, 11:14:08 AM »
How's YOUR business going?
lol, cant continue the debate so resort to ad hominem. classic coach.


the point remains.. companies were not forced to outsource because of problems with profitability, they chose to outsource to increase existing profits. 

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2011, 11:30:11 AM »
lol, cant continue the debate so resort to ad hominem. classic coach.


the point remains.. companies were not forced to outsource because of problems with profitability, they chose to outsource to increase existing profits. 

Tfag, it's none of your business who a company chooses to hire

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2011, 11:38:13 AM »
Tfag, it's none of your business who a company chooses to hire
then its none of your business if they want to pay $1 per day, mandatory 12 hour work days, 7 days/week, no time for lunch breaks, massive pollution during production process, etc.  its their business, their choice, who the fuck are you to tell them how to spend their money ?

fucking idiot

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2011, 11:42:23 AM »
once again son, not thinking through your arguments to their full implications......   not to mention their direct effects

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2011, 11:43:36 AM »
it feels good to be right but damn it feels even worse knowing other people are so wrong..  :-X

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2011, 11:50:41 AM »
then its none of your business if they want to pay $1 per day, mandatory 12 hour work days, 7 days/week, no time for lunch breaks, massive pollution during production process, etc.  its their business, their choice, who the fuck are you to tell them how to spend their money ?

Yep, for the same reasons

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2011, 11:52:39 AM »
Yep, for the same reasons

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have fun with that set of opinions....    heres a hint= common sense always outweighs "political principle"  :)

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2011, 01:07:26 PM »
There is no such thing as a free market, there is no capitalism, there is no socialism...there is only human nature following its genetically programmed will to increase 'status and priviledge' within the current domesticated primate society.

Any attempt to implement a "system" at odds with this fact will inevitably collapse.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2011, 01:19:47 PM »
There is no such thing as a free market, there is no capitalism, there is no socialism...there is only human nature following its genetically programmed will to increase 'status and priviledge' within the current domesticated primate society.

Any attempt to implement a "system" at odds with this fact will inevitably collapse.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2011, 02:03:38 PM »
just sell carpets everybody loves carpets

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2011, 09:40:44 PM »
Dude, I don't know where you're getting your info from. But when you start regulating and taxing the shit out of companies they are FORCED to make cuts to survive. So you go back and tell your little leftist professor (because thats the only place where a kid that still lives with his parents learns this shit from) to suck a dick. You have NO clue on how the business world works let alone life.

You do know companies are turning record profits right?  They aren't just surviving LOL, what a load of bullshit.  They can afford to pay their employee's double or more, they are just too greedy to, and want to please shareholders, what utter bullshit, Obama 2012 and beyond, unionize whole country.

They are not forced omg that is so funny, coach you make me laugh, look at the companies net profits, it's hilarious what you say.

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Re: How should the state encourage entrepreneurship?
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2011, 09:51:11 PM »
and you will get massive oil explosions like they had offshore, do you want the US to turn into China that has dirty shit everywhere?   We need regulations to protect the civilians from the corporations that already don't give a fuck to pay the workers a fair wage, do you think they will give a shit if they pollute your water, or the air around your house, hell no!  It is all for profit and nothing will stop them once you stop regulating.  More regulations, also need to regulate banks or nationalize them so they cannot charge these stupid fee's that they are coming up with, while making record profits. 

What about all the precious legislation that was already in place for offshore oil rigging when that happened?  Using legislation as a scapegoat to thwart accidents is a horrible argument and irrational at best.