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Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« on: November 01, 2011, 12:15:41 AM »
If T3 is added for its fat cutting properties, can T4 (prescribed 75mcg ed) be taken simultaneously?

Or should one cut out the T4 entirely when throwing in the T3?  ???

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 12:38:15 AM »
Yes I believe the ratio of t4 to t3 is 3:1

So if you take 50 mcg of t3, take 150 mcg of t4


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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 03:02:08 AM »
If T3 is added for its fat cutting properties, can T4 (prescribed 75mcg ed) be taken simultaneously?

Or should one cut out the T4 entirely when throwing in the T3?  ???
As i believe, T4 gets converted into T3 before being used in your body ( hence the other user saying the conversion rate is 3:1) .

So if you have T3, i would just go with T3 and dont waste your time with T4

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 03:24:50 AM »
As i believe, T4 gets converted into T3 before being used in your body ( hence the other user saying the conversion rate is 3:1) .

So if you have T3, i would just go with T3 and dont waste your time with T4
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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 04:18:24 AM »
Thyroid drugs eat away at everything. Maybe some people can pull it off, but if you can't get lean enough with trenbologna I'm not sure if you're doing it right.

I hardly watch what I eat and taking 100mg of tren ace EOD has gotten me leaner than I've ever been. Haven't even taken ephedrina in months either.

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 02:17:46 PM »
As i believe, T4 gets converted into T3 before being used in your body ( hence the other user saying the conversion rate is 3:1) .

So if you have T3, i would just go with T3 and dont waste your time with T4

I believe the ratio is more like 4-1 T3-T4

Tx Salt - have went with T3 only - then once T3 stopped -- will go back to T4.

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 02:21:39 PM »
Thyroid drugs eat away at everything. Maybe some people can pull it off, but if you can't get lean enough with trenbologna I'm not sure if you're doing it right.

I hardly watch what I eat and taking 100mg of tren ace EOD has gotten me leaner than I've ever been. Haven't even taken ephedrina in months either.

Agree there Dustin. Thyroid drugs literally tear through the muscle tissue. Tried T3 once on its own - felt very lethargic, accompanied by serious joint pain, and could hardly lift.

Trenbolone comes later. Have never done more than 500mg test weekly until now.

When you are a drug addict, it is best to first start off with lighter drugs.  ;D

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 10:32:32 AM »
Thyroid drugs eat away at everything. Maybe some people can pull it off, but if you can't get lean enough with trenbologna I'm not sure if you're doing it right.

I hardly watch what I eat and taking 100mg of tren ace EOD has gotten me leaner than I've ever been. Haven't even taken ephedrina in months either.
What is your opinion on this article ?
http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/content/t-3-fat-loss

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 10:49:02 AM »
What is your opinion on this article ?
http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/content/t-3-fat-loss

not sure if there is a slight exaggeration in the article, but its pretty much what t3 is supposed to do...

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 11:23:48 AM »
not a fan of t3, when you use enough to get metabolic benefits its inhibits muscle gain+promotes muscle loss.. and eating more protien doesnt help either. a small doseage, replacement levels, would be somewhat useful for an extended diet or the later stages of contest prep.

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 11:36:53 AM »
hey, i actually agree with bombs on this one... never been a fan of thyroids, better options available.

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 01:17:41 PM »
hey, i actually agree with bombs on this one... never been a fan of thyroids, better options available.
better oral options? or oils?

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 07:22:24 PM »
not a fan of t3, when you use enough to get metabolic benefits its inhibits muscle gain+promotes muscle loss.. and eating more protien doesnt help either. a small doseage, replacement levels, would be somewhat useful for an extended diet or the later stages of contest prep.

T3 is never considered for "replacement levels", it's usually T4.

What would we be the equivalent of replacement dosage, yet effective with T3, if at all?

Using about 30mcg ed T3 along with Test/Eq, replacing T4 for hypothyroidism.

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 10:30:44 PM »
Nothing wrong with T3 to bump up your metabolism "if" you are on aas support , if not then say ta ta to alot of your hard earned muscle . 50 - 75mcg a day is plenty for someone thats enhanced and knows how to eat to shed fat.

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2011, 08:58:19 PM »
T3 is never considered for "replacement levels", it's usually T4.

What would we be the equivalent of replacement dosage, yet effective with T3, if at all?

Using about 30mcg ed T3 along with Test/Eq, replacing T4 for hypothyroidism.
12-25mcg per day t3 is usually hrt levels. differs from person to person tho. doctors who know their shit always prescribe t3, or a t3/t4 combo. t4 alone is wack.

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 11:33:50 PM »
12-25mcg per day t3 is usually hrt levels. differs from person to person tho. doctors who know their shit always prescribe t3, or a t3/t4 combo. t4 alone is wack.

Didn't know Tbombz. Thought it was always T4. Tx!

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 11:35:45 PM »
Nothing wrong with T3 to bump up your metabolism "if" you are on aas support , if not then say ta ta to alot of your hard earned muscle . 50 - 75mcg a day is plenty for someone thats enhanced and knows how to eat to shed fat.

Would 500-600mg Test on a weekly basis do the trick Will in supporting the muscle?

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Re: Can T4 and T3 be taken simultaneouly?
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2011, 04:19:33 AM »
My experience with T3 was great,last summer i runned through it 3 months.I have a fucked up metabolism naturally,very prone to deposit fats.I took 25 mg first first week,50 second,75 thrid,nunned for 2 months then tappered down.First feeling after 2 days was that my bp rised from 70-75 to constant 90-95,but after a week it went back good.Secondly if usually i would shit every 2-3 days,now every day was a must,even twice a day.During first 2 months i lost about 20 lbs,with a clean diet too,about 2000 kcal of day,lots of protein and slow carbs,not so much fat.Then i went to a shitty diet,eating whatver i could get my hands on(pizza,chocolate,burgers,you name it).I looked at the scale and couldn't believed my eyes that my weight remained constant even if i eat like a pig.When i finished cycle i went to a normal diet(2000-2500 kcal) i gained 6 lbs but that was it.This drug is surely something to talk about,and good thing it's damn cheap and easy to get.But caution should be taken,some guys say no more that 6 weeks,other advocate that you could run year-long and still be fine.

We surely need a new guideline by gh15 regarding t3 t4 and diuretics :D
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