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Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« on: November 02, 2011, 01:57:46 PM »
Talk about something that would set the Middle East on fire . . . .   :-\ 


Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
Published November 02, 2011
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Nov. 2, 2011: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu talks during a session of the Knesset, Israel's Parliament, in Jerusalem.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is reportedly trying to rally support for an attack on Iran, according to government sources.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman are said to be among those backing a pre-emptive strike to neutralize Iran's nuclear ambitions, Sky News reports.

A "narrow majority" of ministers currently oppose the move, which could lead to retaliation.

In response to reports of an effort to gain cabin approval on Netanyahu's proposal, Lieberman said: "Iran poses the most dangerous threat to world order."

Lieberman added that Israel's military options should not be a matter for public discussion.

In response to Netanyahu's proposal, Iran's military chief warned that an Israeli attack on the Islamic nation's nuclear development sites "will inflict heavy damages," according to the Iranian ISNA news agency.

"The U.S. officials know that the Zionist regime's military attack against Iran will inflict heavy damages to the U.S. seriously, as well as the Zionist regime," said Hassan Firouzabadi, Iran's chairman of the joint chiefs of staff of Iran's armed forces.

Israel successfully test-fired on Wednesday a missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and striking Iran. An Israeli defense official told The Associated Press that the military tested a "rocket propulsion system" in an exercise planned long ago. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of security restrictions, and declined to give further information.

Further information about the test was censored by the military. Foreign reports, however, said the military test-fired a long-range Jericho missile -- capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and striking Iran.

Israel considers Iran its most dangerous threat. It cites Tehran's nuclear program, its ballistic missile development, repeated references by the Iranian leader to Israel's destruction and Iran's support for anti-Israel militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah.

Iran, meanwhile, has said its nuclear program is meant only to produce energy for the oil-rich country. It has blamed Israel for disruptions in its nuclear program, including the mysterious assassinations of a string of Iranian nuclear scientists and a computer virus that wiped out some of Iran's nuclear centrifuges.

Israel has repeatedly said that it hopes economic sanctions will persuade Iran to halt its nuclear program. Israeli diplomats have been lobbying the international community for tougher sanctions.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/11/02/israel-test-fires-missile-that-can-hit-iran-1866648425/

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 02:08:37 PM »
I read that we are adding to our presence in kuwait and moving resources to the gulf.

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 03:13:23 PM »
I read that we are adding to our presence in kuwait and moving resources to the gulf.

Would not surprise me.  We are leaving Iraq, but not Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, etc. 

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 04:25:02 PM »
with everyone on this pre-emptive kick, what if Iran looks at a strick on them as comming and make pre-emptive strikes of their own?  What would that be called?  terrorism and suicide I guess?  LOL...

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 04:30:10 PM »
with everyone on this pre-emptive kick, what if Iran looks at a strick on them as comming and make pre-emptive strikes of their own?  What would that be called?  terrorism and suicide I guess?  LOL...

The Mullahs believe the 12th Mahdi will fly out of the sky and rescue the Muslims (re-establishing the caliphate in the process) when the apocalypse is upon them.

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 04:55:46 PM »
with everyone on this pre-emptive kick, what if Iran looks at a strick on them as comming and make pre-emptive strikes of their own?  What would that be called?  terrorism and suicide I guess?  LOL...

With what exactly?  They have no nukes so the best they could do is air strikes of non nuclear payloads.  Iran hasn't invaded anyone in over  50 years or gone to war against anyone in as much either.

This is a risky move if Obama supports this right before an election especially with so many people pissed off at the wars going on already.

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 05:14:54 PM »
With what exactly?  They have no nukes so the best they could do is air strikes of non nuclear payloads.  Iran hasn't invaded anyone in over  50 years or gone to war against anyone in as much either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 06:03:08 PM »
1) let israel bomb the motherfuck out of them.

2) See #1.


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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2011, 06:05:17 PM »
Israel is going to have to get this done cause bush and Obama refused to. 


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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2011, 11:16:18 PM »

Israel cannot nor will do this without the help of Europa and the US and many other allies.  No one wants to see a nuclear armed Iran.  Not China, not Russia, not Europe, not the US and most definately not Israel.   If there will be a strike on a few nuclear reactors that are being worked on, it will be one huge attack to take them out.

Keep in mind that it is under a mountain, which is very hard to hit, even with bunker buster bombs.  It would need to be such a monster hit on the area that the Iranian forces wont be able to go back to that area for months of years.

Better to keep building powerful computer programs so that they just cant control the computers when the time comes to self destruct or malfunction to the point of needing to start over again.

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 12:39:46 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

I meant initiated war against anyone, not defended themselves after being attacked.

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 12:44:00 AM »
Israel cannot nor will do this without the help of Europa and the US and many other allies.  No one wants to see a nuclear armed Iran.  Not China, not Russia, not Europe, not the US and most definately not Israel.   If there will be a strike on a few nuclear reactors that are being worked on, it will be one huge attack to take them out.


What help would they need from anyone else against a country with the equivalent military presence of North Korea that the 300+ nukes and strongest military in the entire region they have wouldn't accomplish?

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 02:13:15 PM »
Might as well start another pre-emptive war of occupation that lasts 15 years.  The past two have been huge successes. 
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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2011, 11:11:02 AM »
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Ron Paul: Friendship Best Way to Deal With Iran
Sunday, 06 Nov 2011

WASHINGTON — GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul says "offering friendship" to Iran, not sanctions, would be a more fruitful to achieving peace with Tehran.

The Texas congressman says fears about Iran's nuclear program have been "blown out of proportion." He says tough penalties are a mistake because, as he says was the case in Iraq, they only hurt the local population and still paved a path to war.

When asked on "Fox News Sunday" what he would do to deter Iran's alleged nuclear ambitions, Paul said "maybe offering friendship to them."

Paul's remarks put him at odds with both the Bush and Obama administrations; U.S. policy has relied heavily on sanctions and diplomacy to try to convince Tehran to abandon its atomic program. Iran says its nuclear program is peaceful.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Republican-Paul-Iran-threat/2011/11/06/id/417028

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2011, 11:22:28 AM »
We have over 50,000 nuclear warheads and can detonate them anywhere in the world we want, have used them before, and have a track record of invading and occupying sovereign nations whose governments posed no imminent threat to us.  Who are we to say that another country can't build one nuclear weapon?  If I lived in another country I would probably want my country to have nukes as a deterrent from the US invading. 

Even if Iran did try anything aggressive in the region, they know that the US and Israel would obliterate their country.  I think Iran is a messed up country, but I don't think that their leaders are suicidal.  Neither were the Soviets.     
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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2011, 09:04:54 AM »
Allen West: US Must 'Absolutely' Support Israel in Iran Attack
Thursday, 10 Nov 2011
By Jim Meyers and Kathleen Walter

Rep. Allen West tells Newsmax that the cuts in Pentagon spending that would be required if the congressional supercommittee fails to reach a compromise would “gut” the U.S. military and leave Americans unable to protect and defend themselves.

The Florida Republican also warns that “the clock is ticking very fast” toward Iran becoming a nuclear-armed threat, and says the United States should “absolutely” support the Israelis if they launch an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

West was first elected in 2010 and is a member of the Tea Party Caucus. He is also an Army veteran who served for more than 20 years, with postings in several combat zones, and retired with the rank of lieutenant colonel.

If the supercommittee charged with devising deep cuts in the nation’s budget deficit does not reach an agreement this month, the Pentagon would automatically be required to cut at least $500 billion from its budget in the coming years. In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, West was asked what would be the consequences of those cuts.

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“The Army, which is today at 569,000, would go down to 426,000,” he says.

“The Marine Corps, which is at 202,000, would go down to 145,000. Navy ships, which are 288, would go down to 238. Air Force fighters, which are 1,990, would go down to 1,512.

“Basically you’re gutting our military. It becomes hollow, especially at a time when we find out from the [International Atomic Energy Agency] report that we have the number one threat to peace and stability in the world, Iran, getting close to having a militarized nuclear device.”
If those cuts are implemented, “you will not be able to take care of United States’ national security. We will not be able to contend with the various contingencies we have,” West warns.

“We are talking about pulling out all troops from Iraq. Iran has got a green light now. What does that mean in terms of our being able to reinsert ourselves and also support Israel in case they decide to take action against those nuclear facilities?”

Asked if the U.S. would be able to “adequately protect and defend ourselves” with those levels of military cuts, West stated: “No, we would not be able to.”

Discussing recent reports asserting that the U.S. is preparing for strikes against Iran’s nuclear facilities, West tells Newsmax: “I think you have to understand in that part of the world the only thing they recognize is strength.

“This is a Chamberlain-Churchill moment for the United States of America. You cannot compromise with and appease a dictator, a despot, a theocrat, and an autocrat, and that’s exactly what you have in Iran. And we’re giving them so many signals to say they’ve got a green light.

“Sanctions are going to work when you have people who care about the standard of living of their people, but in Iran they don’t care about that standard of living. And furthermore, the mutually assured destruction theory, the MAD theory that we had with the Soviet Union, that’s out the window now with Iran.”

West was asked how much longer the U.S. can afford to wait before striking Iran.

“I think that the clock is ticking very fast right now,” he responds.

“I believe when you have a complete reduction of all forces in Iraq by 31 December, that is really going to hasten Iran going toward that device. And it also puts a constraint on Israel because now you have to be concerned about overflight and aerial refueling.

“When I was over in Israel in August we had a meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu, and one of his concerns was not having a credible U.S. force in Iraq and the Middle East that would keep Iran at bay, and we’re about to have that happen.”

Asked if the United States should act before the year’s end, West says: “I think we should strike when we have the right kind of conditions. I don’t want to tip anyone’s hand.”

He was also asked if the United States should support the Israelis if they strike Iran.

“Absolutely,” he declares. “And I think the greatest concern is not so much about logistical support but also the material support.

“And then what happens if Israel does strike, because you’ve got 50,000 rockets and missiles. Hezbollah has completely rearmed and refitted. All these rockets and missiles are facing south to Israel. Every single city can be struck. Hamas is just as strong as ever. The situation in Egypt is getting terrible.

“And the worst thing is that there are 30,000 shoulder-fired missiles that are missing from Libya, and I just cringe to think where they could end up.”

Turning to the American economy, West asserts that President Obama “has to understand that his economic policies have failed. We’ve gone from $10.6 trillion in debt when he took over to almost $15 trillion.

“This $447 billion stimulus package that he’s proposing is just going to be another failure. It was a failure with the first trillion-dollar stimulus package.”

West adds that as president Obama has “unequivocally” been a failure.

Some in Congress have been calling on Attorney General Eric Holder to resign over the Fast and Furious gun-running scandal. West agrees.

“Yes, he has to resign. And if the president does not ask for Eric Holder to resign, then I think that he’s complicit and is very rewarding of that type of behavior from our attorney general.”

Referring to the clamor over accusations from several women of inappropriate sexual behavior by Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, West was asked if Cain would be receiving the same level of scrutiny from the media if he were white.

“That does come into play in this somewhat,” West says.

“There are many parallels to what happened to Justice Clarence Thomas. There’s no doubt about it that when you are a black conservative you are very threatening to the liberal progressive establishment. I ran into that myself.”

West is the number one Republican congressman that the Democratic National Committee has targeted for defeat.

“It’s an incredible badge of honor,” West says.

“The fact that a person who has never been in politics in their life” is the “number one target, that means that our message is very effective.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/west-iran-israel-nuclear/2011/11/10/id/417646

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2011, 09:12:50 AM »
How about you actually give your fucking opinion on this BB....  post and bump but nothing more than a quick one liner as freaking usual from you....

Grow a pair dude.  Most of your threads are like this...  Post and nothing to say, nothing to debate...

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2011, 09:16:57 AM »
How about you actually give your fucking opinion on this BB....  post and bump but nothing more than a quick one liner as freaking usual from you....

Grow a pair dude.  Most of your threads are like this...  Post and nothing to say, nothing to debate...

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2011, 09:43:21 AM »
Attacking Iran is a bad idea ATM.  A nuclear Iran is inevitable short of conquering it.   

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2011, 09:22:00 PM »
Attacking Iran is a bad idea ATM.  A nuclear Iran is inevitable short of conquering it.   

Agree, except we may not have a choice if Israel is going to strike.  Israel attacking a Muslim country would blow that region up.

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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2011, 10:15:01 PM »
Just seems in the interviews between Larry King and President Mahmoud Ahmedinajad that Ahmedinajad was the wise one and King came across as the presstitute that we expected - nervous because he did not perform well enough for his pimps / masters.











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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2011, 07:04:01 AM »
Agree, except we may not have a choice if Israel is going to strike.  Israel attacking a Muslim country would blow that region up.

so what.  throw on some popcorn and enjoy the show.  let Israel nuke some capitals.  have some fun.

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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2011, 10:34:13 AM »
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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2011, 01:06:50 PM »
so what.  throw on some popcorn and enjoy the show.  let Israel nuke some capitals.  have some fun.

Dumbass.  :-\


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Re: Israel Reportedly Considers Pre-Emptive Attack on Iran
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2011, 04:07:53 PM »
Gingrich: U.S. Must Back Israel Against Iranian Nuclear 'Holocaust'
Tuesday, 15 Nov 2011
By Jim Meyers and Kathleen Walter

Former Speaker of the House and GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich says the United States has a “moral obligation” to support Israel if it launches an attack on Iran to prevent a “second Holocaust.”

Gingrich has called for the United States to take military action against Iran if sanctions do not stop their nuclear weapons development program. In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, he was asked how much longer the U.S. can afford to wait before striking.

“I think what the Iranians have to understand is that we are not going to allow them to develop that program,” Gingrich responds.

“And frankly the Israelis, who are much more threatened than we are, may decide to do that much earlier than we would, in which case I think we have a moral obligation to back the Israelis.

“If the Iranians gave up their nuclear program, nobody in Israel is going to attack Iran. But if the Israeli allow them to get a nuclear program, there’s a very real danger that they are going to annihilate Israel and create a second Holocaust by wiping out millions of people.

“So I think the Israeli prime minister is under enormous pressure to not allow that to happen.”

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/gingrich-iran-israel-nuclear/2011/11/15/id/418166