How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?

[purenaturalstrength]

First question I'd ask is what are you trying to accomplish with your training?  Wanna look good in clubs and on the beach for girls?   Stay a natty and just train your butt off.  MHO, at 19 with barely a year of training under you belt you don't need to consider gear at all. 

I'm sorry, but you are spreading lies


You cannot look impressive in clubs while natty, cannot be done

naturals always always look small in clothes

[Borracho]

I'm sorry, but you are spreading lies


You cannot look impressive in clubs while natty, cannot be done

naturals always always look small in clothes

That depends who you're standing next to but if its average joes than you can look big if you don't have a narrow frame.

[purenaturalstrength]

That depends who you're standing next to but if its average joes than you can look big if you don't have a narrow frame.

oh well i'm narrow that's probably why  

and there's always at least a couple of juiced guidos in the club with shirts that are to small

[Borracho]

Thanks for that Borracho but I have noticed gh15 has changed his viewpoint seemingly. Recent he said:

foundation is

the time you had in the gymnasium TRAINING with ANABOLIC STEROIDS IN YOUR BLOOD.... IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL TRAINNIG NATURAL ,, TRAINING NATURAL IS PART OF HAVING FOUNDATION ...BUT THE FOUNDATION THAT I TALK ABOUT IS TRAINING + ANABOLIC STEROIDS! ....

WHEN I SAY SOMEONE DOESNT HAVE FOUNDATION IT MEAN THEY JUMPED TOOOOOOOOOOOO FAST ON THE HGH AND INSULINA AND WENT INTO MEGADOSE LAND BEFOREEEE DEVELOPING ENOUGH MUSCLE DENSITY.... DENNNNNNNNNNNNNSITY ....AND ENOUGH MUSCULAR DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL....AGAIN! IT IS NOT THE DIAMETER OF MUSCLE IT IS THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE MUSCLE THAT PROJECT STRENGTH AND CREATE A BASE ON WHICH ...YES I JUST SAID ON WHICH...ON WHICH YOU CAN BUILD THE RON COLMANS AND THE DORIAN YATES...

PHILSULINA HAD HAPPY DAY YESTERDAY HE IS YOUR BODYBUILD CHAMP MR O BUT HE LACK THE FOUNDATION ,, IM NOT A MEAN PERSON I DONT HATE HIM ,, HE KNOWS I DONT HATE HIM ...I SAID HE WOULD WIN ,, LONG BEFORE HE WON I SAID HE WOULD WIN ,, BUT! HE JUST DOESNT HAVE THE FOUNDATION MY FRIENDS,, SORRY

gh15 approved.

If you wanna be a pro bb than personally I wouldn't waste anytime. But why would anyone wanna be a pro bber  

[JFree92]

No, not trying to look big in clubs for girls. Much more serious than that. At the moment I want to compete in some way, but even if my goals change in the future in relation to this, I know for sure I want to build and maintain a physique that is much more than is attainable natty.

[purenaturalstrength]

If you wanna be a pro bb than personally I wouldn't waste anytime. But why would anyone wanna be a pro bber  

if you are a working class smuck making the big money with injecting hormones and flexing in thongs seems appealing

[Xerxes]

Your goal in life is to become a bodybuilder? 

[purenaturalstrength]

Your goal in life is to become a bodybuilder? 

at least he has a goal, just not a realistic one


like me i used to want to be a pimp or brothel owner


but realistically


i dont see it happening 

[Xerxes]

at least he has a goal, just not a realistic one


like me i used to want to be a pimp or brothel owner


but realistically


i dont see it happening 

You're wrong, it's very realistic, all he has to do is to shave tan and slap on a thong.

[SF1900]

Wow, another gimmick 

[purenaturalstrength]

You're wrong, it's very realistic, all he has to do is to shave tan and slap on a thong.

look at bodybuilding expos, loads of young guys who want to be bodybuilders go there but they all look like twinks


and they are probably my size or bigger


so being a bodybuilder is hard


?

but if you use the right hormones being a bodybuilder is probably a LOT easier than being a pimp or brothel owner

[JFree92]

Not saying I want to be pro exactly, I'm just saying that I would love to step on stage at one point. And I have the ambition to achieve a physique of a high level.

[goomba420]

Not saying I want to be pro exactly, I'm just saying that I would love to step on stage at one point. And I have the ambition to achieve a physique of a high level.

BUT DO YOU HAVE THE GENETICS

[purenaturalstrength]

Not saying I want to be pro exactly, I'm just saying that I would love to step on stage at one point. And I have the ambition to achieve a physique of a high level.

maybe you should make it a policy to achieve x level of strength or size before you jump on the hormones


like 315 bench 405 squat 495 deadlift

just saying it doesn't make sense to do hormones right off the bat


good luck friend

[Xerxes]

What the fuck is this shit? My head hurts, take this shit with you back to /fit/ where it belongs.  

"Hey guys, I don't look like I train but I've decided to be a bodybuilder"

We don't give a shit, everyone here wants to look like a bodybuilder to some degree

See this, this is a guy who WANTS to become a bodybuilder:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=393184.msg5691530#msg5691530

Get on the juice, pussy. Or get some other "life goals"

[purenaturalstrength]

What the fuck is this shit? My head hurts, take this shit with you back to /fit/ where it belongs.  

"Hey guys, I don't look like I train but I've decided to be a bodybuilder"

We don't give a shit, everyone here wants to look like a bodybuilder to some degree

See this, this is a guy who WANTS to become a bodybuilder:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=393184.msg5691530#msg5691530

Get on the juice, pussy. Or get some other "life goals"

oh i get it, you want him to do some hater reps

[CalvinH]

First question I'd ask is what are you trying to accomplish with your training?  Wanna look good in clubs and on the beach for girls?   Stay a natty and just train your butt off.  MHO, at 19 with barely a year of training under you belt you don't need to consider gear at all. 

You're no gh15 ,man of short shorts.

[Tito24]

[First Blood]

Moloko were/are awesome.

[the trainer]

I'm only 19 but have ambitions to go far in bodybuilding. I have been lifting for 1 year but most of this has been spent cutting from being a fat kunt. I have been reading info on getbig for a while now and am looking to start on gear sooner rather than later.

However, I lack a natural foundation atm and would not consider myself big in anyway. I have heard contrasting opinions on whether this is a problem or not.

This is my pic

Get on steroids but be prepared to stay on for the rest of your life cause once you come off since you have no foundation you will go back to looking like you do now.

[Man of Steel]

I'm sorry, but you are spreading lies


You cannot look impressive in clubs while natty, cannot be done

naturals always always look small in clothes

LOL and what incentive do I have for lying?  An anonymous kid asked a question and I responded honestly.   

[CalvinH]

LOL and what incentive do I have for lying?  An anonymous kid asked a question and I responded honestly.   

You should know better then to tell the truth here.

[purenaturalstrength]

LOL and what incentive do I have for lying?  An anonymous kid asked a question and I responded honestly.   

when i was a clueless noob people told me the things you are telling him


and here i am now a good 5 years later and I still dont look like i lift in clothes

[Man of Steel]

No, not trying to look big in clubs for girls. Much more serious than that. At the moment I want to compete in some way, but even if my goals change in the future in relation to this, I know for sure I want to build and maintain a physique that is much more than is attainable natty.

Ok, then you've answered you're own question or better yet you don't really have a question about using.  What you're wanting is someone to say, "go for it kid, start plunging those needles in you."

[First Blood]

The secret is to have many layers of clothes as a natural.