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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #75 on: November 05, 2011, 08:50:06 AM »
Quote from: purenaturalstrength on November 04, 2011, 07:46:49 AM
maybe you should make it a policy to achieve x level of strength or size before you jump on the hormones


like 315 bench 405 squat 495 deadlift

just saying it doesn't make sense to do hormones right off the bat


good luck friend

sounds like a good way to injure yourself ::)

Quote from: Hulkotron on November 04, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
You look like shit, hope this helps.

man, don't listen to this douche. you're lean and that's certainly an accomplishment in the obesity age! plus, you're just a kid. my god...
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JFree92

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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #76 on: November 05, 2011, 11:46:55 AM »
Thanks. I know that I have by no means whatsoever a good physique at the moment. That's pretty much the point of this whole post, I'm wondering whether that is a problem before starting juicing or whether you can build your foundation on AAS like gh15 says.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2011, 01:30:58 PM »
When you jump on gear is up to you, but I would definitely not train as a natty for more then three years given your intentions. I say that just bc I made all the gains I was gonna make as a natty from 14 to 17.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2011, 01:39:32 PM »
So if i jump on without having a good base, it wouldn't mean that I grow out of proportion or end up looking shitty or anything? The idea of training natty is just to learn your body/diet etc?
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #79 on: November 05, 2011, 01:46:10 PM »
Quote from: Kouroush on November 04, 2011, 07:52:29 AM
What the fuck is this shit? My head hurts, take this shit with you back to /fit/ where it belongs.  :-\

"Hey guys, I don't look like I train but I've decided to be a bodybuilder"

We don't give a shit, everyone here wants to look like a bodybuilder to some degree

See this, this is a guy who WANTS to become a bodybuilder:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=393184.msg5691530#msg5691530

Get on the juice, pussy. Or get some other "life goals"
You impress me as quite uptight in this thread, Cyrus. That's not your normal way of posting. You're ok ?
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #80 on: November 05, 2011, 01:50:47 PM »
Make sure you can gain some muscle natty before jumping on the AAS.
You'll just waste the hormones if you don't know how to grow in the first place.
I speak from experience.
I jumped on right after I started lifting. I didn't know what the hell I was doing. Learn to eat and train first, then jump on.
If you don't know what to do or where to start, hire someone.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2011, 01:53:17 PM »
Quote from: hematocritter on November 05, 2011, 01:50:47 PM
Make sure you can gain some muscle natty before jumping on the AAS.
You'll just waste the hormones if you don't know how to grow in the first place.
I speak from experience.
I jumped on right after I started lifting. I didn't know what the hell I was doing. Learn to eat and train first, then jump on.
If you don't know what to do or where to start, hire someone.
This is very true. Train your balls off, diet away most of the fat, and when you start a cycle then and eat like there's no tomorrow that stretchmark will be a-plenty....
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #82 on: November 05, 2011, 01:58:15 PM »
And when I eventually do jump on, do you reccomend blasting and cruising with tren from the off or simple test cycles?
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #83 on: November 05, 2011, 02:01:38 PM »
Latter and don't stack at first you gotta be patient and find out how you respond to the individual things and then to the combi's...
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #84 on: November 05, 2011, 02:17:59 PM »
Thanks very much. So you wouldn't think it wise to follow the advise of gh15 and just jump on blast/cruise for life at the start as apparently you can't keep your gains from cycles.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #85 on: November 05, 2011, 02:19:50 PM »
Train hard and seriously for 3 years before you start or consider using drugs.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2011, 02:19:57 PM »
Quote from: JFree92 on November 05, 2011, 02:17:59 PM
Thanks very much. So you wouldn't think it wise to follow the advise of gh15 and just jump on blast/cruise for life at the start as apparently you can't keep your gains from cycles.

One step at a time sport!
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2011, 02:36:56 PM »
Quote from: JFree92 on November 05, 2011, 02:17:59 PM
Thanks very much. So you wouldn't think it wise to follow the advise of gh15 and just jump on blast/cruise for life at the start as apparently you can't keep your gains from cycles.

You shouldn't step into a gym without Tren and GH in your blood.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #88 on: November 05, 2011, 02:45:00 PM »
lol so many conflicting responses.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2011, 02:46:55 PM »
 
Quote from: JFree92 on November 05, 2011, 02:45:00 PM
lol so many conflicting responses.

man up and start pinning u know u want to
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2011, 02:48:06 PM »
Quote from: JFree92 on November 05, 2011, 02:17:59 PM
Thanks very much. So you wouldn't think it wise to follow the advise of gh15 and just jump on blast/cruise for life at the start as apparently you can't keep your gains from cycles.
I would dare going against gh15 on this forum, with all his followers I's risk a suicide terrorist attack, but I think he's not a former pro but some wise ass nobody form Jerkwater USA....
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2011, 02:52:42 PM »


this is exactly whats fucked up about bodybuilding

no offense but it doesnt look like you have ever touched a weight and you are ALREADY looking into juicing? my lawd

build ya foundation first!!!

you start to early and you will look burnt by 24 and then getbig will laugh you off he board for starting juice to early in life

build ya foundation kid..seriously
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #92 on: November 05, 2011, 02:55:21 PM »
I still think you're a gimmick but this forum drives people into a paranoid state of mind, so forgive me if I'm wrong and don't take it personally....
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #93 on: November 05, 2011, 03:14:13 PM »
Quote from: JFree92 on November 05, 2011, 02:45:00 PM
lol so many conflicting responses.

Use common sense. The people who are saying to jump on are being sarcastic/hardcore/joking.
It would be like just learning how to drive, but rushing out and buying a supercharger for your car. You'll just end up crashing.
Learn to drive, then add the power.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #94 on: November 05, 2011, 03:15:39 PM »
Quote from: hematocritter on November 05, 2011, 03:14:13 PM
Use common sense. The people who are saying to jump on are being sarcastic/hardcore/joking.
It would be like just learning how to drive, but rushing out and buying a supercharger for your car. You'll just end up crashing.
Learn to drive, then add the power.
This, but now I am wondering who's gimmick YOU are...... ::)
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #95 on: November 05, 2011, 03:20:49 PM »
I'm not a gimmick. I'm just very interested in bb'ing and have been reading forums on here for a while. The general impression I got was that you should start juicing as any time training naturally is wasted time. But to be honest I had my doubts which is why I started this thread.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #96 on: November 05, 2011, 03:26:06 PM »
Quote from: JFree92 on November 05, 2011, 03:20:49 PM
I'm not a gimmick. I'm just very interested in bb'ing and have been reading forums on here for a while. The general impression I got was that you should start juicing as any time training naturally is wasted time. But to be honest I had my doubts which is why I started this thread.

STOP TAKING ALL YOUR ADVICE FROM GETBIG!!!

it only seems like a waste when you want to take ya body to the "next level"

but get to level one first before you think about the dark side
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #97 on: November 05, 2011, 03:33:39 PM »
Getbig seemed like the best place to get advice on juicing. All the other boardings are very hostile towards anyone who starts before the age of 30 and isn't on just a test cycle.
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #98 on: November 05, 2011, 03:34:52 PM »
Quote from: JFree92 on November 05, 2011, 03:33:39 PM
Getbig seemed like the best place to get advice on juicing. All the other boardings are very hostile towards anyone who starts before the age of 30 and isn't on just a test cycle.
You are correct. You just have to endure the shit first... ;D ;D ;D
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Re: How important is it to build a natural foundation before starting on gear?
« Reply #99 on: November 05, 2011, 03:35:52 PM »
I'm here to learn. I'm willing to take the abuse first if its necessary.
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