So if i jump on without having a good base, it wouldn't mean that I grow out of proportion or end up looking shitty or anything?
no. i mean, not unless your training is disproportionate. obviously balance all your muscle groups in your weekly split. i shouldn't have to tell you this. you should know this by now.
The idea of training natty is just to learn your body/diet etc?
well yeah and it's to build... a "foundation". which to be honest idk how much truth there is to this concept. sounds more like bro-science to me. nevertheless, i would say, you should be able to handle consistent high intensity workouts both physically and mentally (which takes some getting used to) and know how to achieve targeted stimulation and accomplish your own mind-muscle connections.
also, something to consider: if you haven't reached your potential height yet. (i believe you said you were 19 and most men grow a little into their early 20's) and you take compounds that aromatize you could sell yourself short height-wise by prematurely closing growth plates. (there is scientific proof of this)
This is very true. Train your balls off, diet away most of the fat, and when you start a cycle then and eat like there's no tomorrow that stretchmark will be a-plenty....
what fat??? the kid has virtually none.
Thanks very much. So you wouldn't think it wise to follow the advise of gh15 and just jump on blast/cruise for life at the start as apparently you can't keep your gains from cycles.
you can keep the muscle if aas just helped you reach your natural limit faster than without. however, anything above that is going to require exogenous hormones to maintain obviously. looking at your body, i'd say, you could do a cycle of test and deca. (i wouldn't even bother with dbol right away) test and deca is the safest most proven cycle there is imo. if you do things right you'll gain between 20 and 30lbs. if you take some clomid + nolva (and optimally some hcg at the end) and jump off gear theoretically you could keep most of that, take four months off, and decide what to do from there. and of course at that point it's either maintain your natural max (that you reached via unnatural methods) or be on hormones for basically the rest of your life like most of us here in the cult.
You shouldn't step into a gym without Tren and GH in your blood.
he's just being silly. tren is not for beginners. and hgh is unnecessary at your age.
Getbig seemed like the best place to get advice on juicing. All the other boardings are very hostile towards anyone who starts before the age of 30 and isn't on just a test cycle.
yeah, you've came to the right place...
Look at your body very seriously. Do you REALLY think you can put on muscle without large amounts of anabolics? If after you answered that question and have not started putting in your order for the necessary hormones, I fear that you may have a serious case of retardation. You won't even put on 5lbs of muscle with the genetics you have. And you will be lucky to make it to 180 without GH.
Get a source. And stay on. Be grateful you heard this here before you wasted 4 years using danta protein.
i have to side with this guy.
after 10 years of training 176lbs was where my body would sit at 5'11". no matter what i did it would never go one lb above 180. like i said before: don't wait more than three years.
