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Honest question to GH15
« on: November 05, 2011, 01:05:14 PM »
Gh15 you said the best cycle you ever done in terms of gains was eq + deca, no test involved.

Why don't you give deca more credit anymore and prefer to talk about trenbolone which is more a contest drug as you've said in the past ?

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 01:07:52 PM »
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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 01:51:51 PM »
Doesn't he mention NPP a lot? If I remember right.

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 02:09:46 PM »
Do some research on Tren.

You will find many similarities in Nandrolone.

Tren just passed Deca in the race is all.

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 05:48:04 PM »
Gh15 you said the best cycle you ever done in terms of gains was eq + deca, no test involved.

Why don't you give deca more credit anymore and prefer to talk about trenbolone which is more a contest drug as you've said in the past ?

probably bc he's trying to sell tren right now due to surplus or for another market reason only he may understand. i'm not making a claim, but am suspicious of this at times when he gets on one drug and hails it as the best.

deca is great in the off season. helps keep joints safe. some run tren simultaneously with nandrolone (usually phenylpropionate though) with great success. be sure to include test propionate in there though to keep libido and other things in safe zone. gh15 was recommending this not long ago actually. you see, he was preaching npp for a while, then anadrol, then tren, and now back to gh it seems.

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 05:55:45 PM »
I tell this,  that ni99a is one helluva sellman besides being the God of Hormones.. ;D

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2011, 06:02:28 PM »
probably bc he's trying to sell tren right now due to surplus or for another market reason only he may understand. i'm not making a claim, but am suspicious of this at times when he gets on one drug and hails it as the best.

deca is great in the off season. helps keep joints safe. some run tren simultaneously with nandrolone (usually phenylpropionate though) with great success. be sure to include test propionate in there though to keep libido and other things in safe zone. gh15 was recommending this not long ago actually. you see, he was preaching npp for a while, then anadrol, then tren, and now back to gh it seems.

So there's a surplus of tren on the market and everyone's desperate to get rid of it? Hm. Okay.

You realize how addicted hormona abusers are, right? There is no shortage of abusers and the "market" is fine, bro. Stick to posting on bodybuilding.com.

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2011, 06:41:25 PM »
So there's a surplus of tren on the market and everyone's desperate to get rid of it? Hm. Okay.

You realize how addicted hormona abusers are, right? There is no shortage of abusers and the "market" is fine, bro. Stick to posting on bodybuilding.com.

^ this is why he is an elf,, fella kknow hormones like back of his hand

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2011, 06:53:01 PM »
probably bc he's trying to sell tren right now due to surplus or for another market reason only he may understand. i'm not making a claim, but am suspicious of this at times when he gets on one drug and hails it as the best.

deca is great in the off season. helps keep joints safe. some run tren simultaneously with nandrolone (usually phenylpropionate though) with great success. be sure to include test propionate in there though to keep libido and other things in safe zone. gh15 was recommending this not long ago actually. you see, he was preaching npp for a while, then anadrol, then tren, and now back to gh it seems.

dont get confused, he mentions npp, anadrol, tren and gh in for mutation...  It's just quite simple, tren is king of the anabolics when it comes to promoting the best look - the bodybuilding look

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2011, 07:01:09 PM »
probably bc he's trying to sell tren right now due to surplus or for another market reason only he may understand. i'm not making a claim, but am suspicious of this at times when he gets on one drug and hails it as the best.

deca is great in the off season. helps keep joints safe. some run tren simultaneously with nandrolone (usually phenylpropionate though) with great success. be sure to include test propionate in there though to keep libido and other things in safe zone. gh15 was recommending this not long ago actually. you see, he was preaching npp for a while, then anadrol, then tren, and now back to gh it seems.

lol what a pile of nonsense

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2011, 07:16:28 PM »
Gh15 you said the best cycle you ever done in terms of gains was eq + deca, no test involved.

Why don't you give deca more credit anymore and prefer to talk about trenbolone which is more a contest drug as you've said in the past ?

It's true though. all his old posts were like that with very little mention of tren. I'm puzzled as to why it changed completely

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2011, 09:27:07 PM »
It changed because Gh15 is a drug retail outlet, not an IFBB Pro, follow the money.

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2011, 09:48:47 PM »
It's true though. all his old posts were like that with very little mention of tren. I'm puzzled as to why it changed completely

The only constant is CHANGE. Use your noggin, broski. The times have changed, same with his advices.

If you don't want to follow his advices then stick to reading MD and Flex magazines and see how far it gets you. I did that for years and can tell you that it doesn't get you too far though. After taking a gamble and listening to gh15 my eyes were opened.

gh15 doesn't gain anything whether you spend your next thousand dollars on chicken and broccoli or GH, trenbologna and masterona. Which combination of items do you think will take your progress further? ;)

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2011, 10:09:43 PM »
It changed because Gh15 is a drug retail outlet, not an IFBB Pro, follow the money.

Yes because he is actually all 10 or so of the sources Ive seen him talk about since I joined? Don't be stupid.

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2011, 01:40:30 AM »
The only constant is CHANGE. Use your noggin, broski. The times have changed, same with his advices.

If you don't want to follow his advices then stick to reading MD and Flex magazines and see how far it gets you. I did that for years and can tell you that it doesn't get you too far though. After taking a gamble and listening to gh15 my eyes were opened.

gh15 doesn't gain anything whether you spend your next thousand dollars on chicken and broccoli or GH, trenbologna and masterona. Which combination of items do you think will take your progress further? ;)

The guy was not saying he did not want to follow gh's advice, he merely questioned the change of products the last 5 years. Please do not twist people questions. It is a legitimate question that everyone can see that have followed gh15 posts and a question that has never been answered. If gh15 wants credibility he will need to explain himself.

So the reason the advice is all tren and gh nowadays is because times have changed? Really? So we did'nt want to look like bodybuilders 5 years ago? So the bodybuilders in the 90's did not use tren? Come on, you gotta do better than that, that is not an explanation whatsoever. It's quite simple, GH15's advice has changed towards mostly tren and gh the last 1-2 years and we are curious as to why. When he handed out advice 5 years ago why was the advice different then? Did he not want us to look like bodybuilders then? Did he not want us to mutate then?

Please do not retort with the standard "go back to reading Flex " again because I don't think anybody following gh's threads will ever touch those mags again.

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2011, 01:57:27 AM »
are you really bodybuilders?

so you should understand

best drug is allways the drug you are on for a specific goal

otherwise you would be on another

when im offseason i would say npp is the no 1 aas if in prep its tren
gh all over it
no change in generall view on things but different circumstance at time of the statement


same with gh s advices



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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2011, 02:11:16 AM »
All of us who have been BB for a while know which AAS do what, but GH15 was never as specific in his advice as you were closeline. If he had said what you just did then fine, that is what we expect who know. But he did'nt, there was never any heavy emphasis on tren 5 years ago. I also remember he spoke about dbol being the best AAS ever made but you rarely hear anything about that these days.

If has said "well I decided to be more specific in my recomendations 1-2 years ago" then at least we have a notion of why the change occured.

I have no problem accepting a change in view but there has to be a plausible reason and until gh comes up with an explanation it wil just serve as a reason to uncertainty. To be able to really understand things there should allways be a plausible explanation, you can't just say "change" without elaborating or just say " as a bodybuilder you should know", I just explained that he needs to clarify like you just clarified why you change.

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Re: Honest question to GH15
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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2011, 03:12:12 AM »
Just take them all, then you can't go wrong

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Re: Honest question to GH15
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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2011, 03:42:03 AM »
I also remember he spoke about dbol being the best AAS ever made but you rarely hear anything about that these days.

Exactly, now he says anadrol is WAY better

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2011, 05:23:42 AM »
The only constant is CHANGE. Use your noggin, broski. The times have changed, same with his advices.

i don't think it's changed a lot really. remember dorian admitted to using gh and tren prior to his '95 olympia win. that was in md a few months back.

flex seems to avoid talking about steroids all-together. that's why i don't read that mag. they do have more eye candy in the way of ladies though! :D

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2011, 06:15:34 AM »
All of us who have been BB for a while know which AAS do what, but GH15 was never as specific in his advice as you were closeline. If he had said what you just did then fine, that is what we expect who know. But he did'nt, there was never any heavy emphasis on tren 5 years ago. I also remember he spoke about dbol being the best AAS ever made but you rarely hear anything about that these days.

i think he's came full circle with the dbol now actually. :D he has it listed in the top five steroids of all time post. and after all that about anadrol being superior and it adding water in the right places, blowing up from within instead of between the muscle and skin like dbol, etc...

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2011, 06:19:19 AM »
best drug is allways the drug you are on for a specific goal

otherwise you would be on another

when im offseason i would say npp is the no 1 aas if in prep its tren
gh all over it
no change in generall view on things but different circumstance at time of the statement
very true

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Re: Honest question to GH15
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2011, 06:34:58 AM »
So there's a surplus of tren on the market and everyone's desperate to get rid of it? Hm. Okay.

You realize how addicted hormona abusers are, right? There is no shortage of abusers and the "market" is fine, bro. Stick to posting on bodybuilding.com.

^ this is why he is an elf,, fella kknow hormones like back of his hand

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he demonstrated no knowledge of hormones there.