Rebels to Radicals: Islam extremism sweeps 'liberated' Libya

[Benny B]

Libya's post-Gaddafi world is showing a lurch towards radical Islam, with strict Sharia law and Al-Qaeda flags in evidence there. It's barely a week since NATO moved out after the campaign to swap a dictator for democracy, yet the Alliance and the U.S. don't seem too concerned about the shape it's taking.

[Tapeworm]

As if it's such a surprise.  It was going to happen no matter what.  The US is just trying to install a sympathetic government.  Establishing trade and diplomatic relations so that Middle Eastern leaders don't scream for Western blood might be the only thing that puts the brakes on full scale war, continual terrorism, the whole 'clash of cultures' enchilada.  Not that it will necessarily work but what the hell else you gonna do?  If I was Israel, I'd be shitting bricks about now.

[Lord Chronos]

As if it's such a surprise.  It was going to happen no matter what.  The US is just trying to install a sympathetic government.  Establishing trade and diplomatic relations so that Middle Eastern leaders don't scream for Western blood might be the only thing that puts the brakes on full scale war, continual terrorism, the whole 'clash of cultures' enchilada.  Not that it will necessarily work but what the hell else you gonna do?  If I was Israel, I'd be shitting bricks about now.

US and UK dont give a fuck about democracy, they dont have democracy in their own countries, why the hell do they care if any other country has it.
They just want to make sure the country has a goverment that follows their orders and gives them what they want like cheap oil. Libya has recently found one of the largest gold mines in the world, so US probably thought lets have some of that while we are at it.
All the trouble in the middle happens when a countries leader doesnt want to play ball with the US, so the US decides right this guy has got to go, lets get another stooge in.

[Tito24]

saudi arabia should already be bombed back to the stoneages.

[mass243]

Nothing I didn't say months ago here 

This whole campaign in Africa is US' last convulsions. They are desperately trying to keep their shattering empire together.
By launching small military campaigns in remote locations they hope to tie Europe in American mess and so prevent Europe sliding more into China's sphere of influence.

America has always ruled through instability.
European powerhouse Germany which is now practically married with Russia didn't even take part in aggression in Libya. That speaks volumes.

[apply85]

called it

[Benny B]

Nothing I didn't say months ago here 

This whole campaign in Africa is US' last convulsions. They are desperately trying to keep their shattering empire together.
By launching small military campaigns in remote locations they hope to tie Europe in American mess and so prevent Europe sliding more into China's sphere of influence.

America has always ruled through instability.
European powerhouse Germany which is now practically married with Russia didn't even take part in aggression in Libya. That speaks volumes.

The American empire is a long way from being "shattered." Don't believe the hype.

It's not a matter of Europe sliding into China's influence. America & Europe are one in the same...the Western Imperialist Powers.

What is taking place is a 21st Century "Scramble for Africa", just like what took place in the 20th century, 19th century, 18th century, etc. Africa is and will always be the most resource-rich continent on planet Earth. China has made major inroads into Africa, doing business all over the continent. The imperialist powers of the U.S., U.K., and France need to make inroads there are be left in the dust.

[Tito24]

one thing is for sure, they were not there to "protect the civilians" 

[Tapeworm]

US and UK dont give a fuck about democracy, they dont have democracy in their own countries, why the hell do they care if any other country has it.
They just want to make sure the country has a goverment that follows their orders and gives them what they want like cheap oil. Libya has recently found one of the largest gold mines in the world, so US probably thought lets have some of that while we are at it.
All the trouble in the middle happens when a countries leader doesnt want to play ball with the US, so the US decides right this guy has got to go, lets get another stooge in.

You're crediting the US with a far greater degree of control than they exert.  I'm sure they'd like to be able to do the things you suggest, but the whole region is overrun with fundamentalist lunatics and the US has been pissing people off over there for a few generations now.  Seems like it would be a tough call anymore who's in charge: goverments or the church.  I could even see the whole place merging into a single state of Islam if you get sharia law all over the place.  The US doing its best to guard its interests but it is definitely not running the show.

[reppingfor20]

Sharia law is good, and what they do is their business.  In America they look at us and see the men letting whores run around half naked, whores dominating the men, and laugh at us.  Also they look at Christianity the same way Christians look at Islam, just think about one more perspective than your own.

[mass243]

and what they do is their business. 

Word.

Nuthin' to add.

[apply85]

their business, you guys don't understand, america made a big mistake by killing saddam, remember we installed him and although he was uncooperative he was not anti american empire, but by allowing democracy there they allowed shiah muslims to be elected in leadership positions. WHy dd this happen? Saddam was a sunni and the majority of iraw is shiah anyways, and this matters because iran is also shiah and so now iraq is a part of iran's empire. All this terrorist shit, all this anti america hatred in the world stems from there, we are separate empires and that's that. In america there is tension, racial tension, cultural tension what have you, but against another empire we all forget our differences and fight for one another, our allegiances extend exactly to the walls of the empire. We fight over the resources of this world and when an empire controls resources, only the people of that empire and its allies benefit ok, Iran is not evil but they want to take food from your mouth and put it into their mouth.

You put two spiders in one cage and they eat each other, why, because then resources have to be shared and no one wants to be half full, humans are more cooperative and more than two people can coexist in the same place, but not more than two empires, that's where cooperation ends, and now these other countries which for whatever reason the US decided to deal with just like they dealt with saddam are up for grabs, and now israel wants to bomb iran, giving iran leverage because now they are a poor victim, now they can slide into libya and whatever other shit hole is freed up, and people will argue less. America has not mastered this acitivity of toppling regimes and setting up puppet governments, it hasn't learned in all these years, fucking shame

I'll give iran this... they are smart, they know how to leverage power much better than america, america is a brute, it is the judge who beat his daughter and iran is the daughter, but remember the judge lost his family and lost face in the end, his status was once high but now it's shit even if he gets to wear a fancy robe to work

[Soul Crusher]