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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #100 on: November 15, 2011, 05:08:31 AM »
Don't know if is fake or not....

He does look like a Swollen Monkey though.

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #101 on: November 15, 2011, 05:43:51 AM »
It shows the 3 yellow {15kg plates} and 1 blue {20kg plate} right in the video and people still are asking what the weight is?
No PI`s on the board today I take it.
Its 150kg total....
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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #102 on: November 15, 2011, 08:54:42 AM »

Don't be fucking silly. Heavy dumbbells doesn't translate to heavy bench pressing. Same as heavy leg presses don't translate to heavy squatting. If a person doesn't Bench press for months or years at a time, there bench isn't gonna be shit(a few natural freaks aside of course)...We all see the guys in the gym who won't go near the flat bench but will load up the smith machine bench and claim its the same thing. IT ISNT!!!NO EVEN CLOSE!
i agree with you here, barbell benching is MUCH harder than dumbbell pressing.

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #103 on: November 15, 2011, 08:58:09 AM »
i agree with you here, barbell benching is MUCH harder than dumbbell pressing.

wat? i thought it was the other way around  ???

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #104 on: November 15, 2011, 09:01:07 AM »
wat? i thought it was the other way around  ???
not when you get to a certain weight its not, you start getting up into that 365-500 range on barbell presses and you feel like youve got a truck sitting in your hands, dumbbells are easy to manipulate, look on youtube at how many skinny twinks find a way to press the 100's and more but you'll hardly ever see a video of a skinny dude legitimately pressing 4 or 5 plates.

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #105 on: November 15, 2011, 09:11:33 AM »
initially there are two goals to get as strong as possible and to get as big as possible,,after yrs and yrs of this,,there comes a time when these seperate themselves and you lean more to one side due to maxxing out on strenght and how big one gets.or one becomes more important than the other.they both take a lot of work.i don't care how big u become muscular wise 405 incline is impressive.

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #106 on: November 15, 2011, 09:12:43 AM »
initially there are two goals to get as strong as possible and to get as big as possible,,after yrs and yrs of this,,there comes a time when these seperate themselves and you lean more to one side due to maxxing out on strenght and how big one gets.or one becomes more important than the other.they both take a lot of work.i don't care how big u become muscular wise 405 incline is impressive.
Good post,and very true!

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #107 on: November 15, 2011, 09:14:48 AM »
Good post,and very true!
thanx jedi wes...

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #108 on: November 15, 2011, 09:15:33 AM »
thanx jedi wes...
You`re quite welcome young padawan!  ;D

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #109 on: November 15, 2011, 09:28:36 AM »
You`re quite welcome young padawan!  ;D
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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #110 on: November 15, 2011, 12:08:43 PM »
BOOOMMMMMMMM bitches  :o

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #111 on: November 15, 2011, 12:19:39 PM »
Dumbell presses are far harder than barbell presses
thats why a lot of guys stay clear of them
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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #112 on: November 15, 2011, 01:00:13 PM »
not when you get to a certain weight its not, you start getting up into that 365-500 range on barbell presses and you feel like youve got a truck sitting in your hands, dumbbells are easy to manipulate, look on youtube at how many skinny twinks find a way to press the 100's and more but you'll hardly ever see a video of a skinny dude legitimately pressing 4 or 5 plates.
Serious expert here...  ::)  ;D

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #113 on: November 15, 2011, 01:01:50 PM »

 It was real. I sometimes travel to Las vegas for work and when I am there I go to the Golds gym he is at and seen him there so I saw him rep 365 for about 10 without a spotter so I am sure he can do that

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #114 on: November 15, 2011, 01:02:31 PM »
Dumbell presses are far harder than barbell presses
thats why a lot of guys stay clear of them


I agree , a lot harder to control dumbells it takes more ancillary muscles to stabilize the weight 

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2011, 01:03:40 PM »

I agree , a lot harder to control dumbells it takes more ancillary muscles to stabilize the weight 
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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #116 on: November 15, 2011, 01:06:55 PM »

I agree , a lot harder to control dumbells it takes more ancillary muscles to stabilize the weight 

You're right, to a point. But there's no question one's flat barbell press will suffer if he never trains the exercise, regardless of how heavy the dumbells are when he uses them. Look at Ronnie ...

It was obvious from watching him push 495 in that one video that he wasn't as used to barbells as he was dumbells. His dumbell pressing strength would indicate a MUCH better barbell lift, but he did, what, five kinda shit reps with the five plates? Now, if he did focus more intently on barbell pressing, it's obvious he'd have done a whole lot more. Perhaps two or more sets of eight.

 

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #117 on: November 15, 2011, 02:57:25 PM »
You're right, to a point. But there's no question one's flat barbell press will suffer if he never trains the exercise, regardless of how heavy the dumbells are when he uses them. Look at Ronnie ...

It was obvious from watching him push 495 in that one video that he wasn't as used to barbells as he was dumbells. His dumbell pressing strength would indicate a MUCH better barbell lift, but he did, what, five kinda shit reps with the five plates? Now, if he did focus more intently on barbell pressing, it's obvious he'd have done a whole lot more. Perhaps two or more sets of eight.

 

true .. you have to keep on top of the barbell press to get better but flip the scenario
someone who benches all the time.... and then trying dumbells would suffer greatly....

and to the guy talking about 365 bench presses feel like a truck
try 145 dumbells... which is near enough close to that weight
dumbells in my experience a lot harder
choice is an illusion

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #118 on: November 15, 2011, 03:38:29 PM »
true .. you have to keep on top of the barbell press to get better but flip the scenario
someone who benches all the time.... and then trying dumbells would suffer greatly....

and to the guy talking about 365 bench presses feel like a truck
try 145 dumbells... which is near enough close to that weight
dumbells in my experience a lot harder
yeah,,good point ,,that's is heavy as hell 145's.

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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #119 on: November 15, 2011, 03:50:13 PM »
i remember i was a bencher at first got up to 315 then decided to hit bells
.... got to 110
it to me ages before my body could handle 130's.... ages....
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Re: Jay Cutler 405 incline... REAL ? FAKE????
« Reply #120 on: November 15, 2011, 03:55:24 PM »
i remember i was a bencher at first got up to 315 then decided to hit bells
.... got to 110
it to me ages before my body could handle 130's.... ages....
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