I did bench press today...5 x 455 lbs at 220.

[WillGrant]

Do a fuckin doping test with me bro!

Yes, you are stupid! Let's say you're natural...still you can build muscle, strength...still can keep some size and strength what you already had before...still can live a good life just like 6-8 billion other people right?

So when I started 100 mg prop a week...I already felt it...now at 300mg per week...it feels totally different than being natural!

Can you imagine that?!

Use your fuckin brain bro!

hahaha fuck off with your lies - 300mg of prop would do shit on a pro level build like yours that has been abusing LARGE doses for many years - again fuck off out of here if you are going to start lying 

[Steve Namat]

hahaha fuck off with your lies - 300mg of prop would do shit on a pro level build like yours that has been abusing LARGE doses for many years - again fuck off out of here if you are going to start lying 

How do you know how much I was using before? 

Prop...the most was 700 mg a week...and yes I looked like 3-4 times better than now...because I was using other stuff too.

[whitewidow]

How do you know how much I was using before? 

Prop...the most was 700 mg a week...and yes I looked like 3-4 times better than now...because I was using other stuff too.

Franco columbu was lighter than you by like 30 pounds maybe 40 pounds and he could lift way more than 405 for 5 reps on the bench and he wasn't such a roid junkie. if you are using prop or suspension those are best when used everyday to keep hormone levels stable. shooting 300mg prop every week makes no sense. 100mg a day makes sense. steve you are a confusing man. one day you are lifting 85's for 5 sets. now you are usingg some gay looking sling. i think you should scratch the sling and man up like franco and becnh 455 raw. for 8 -10 reps like franco could c'mon he was your height and even weighed less. plus he didnt use HGH,insulin and all that dope you use. even if you are being truthful franco could still be on 300m prop and lift 455 for 8-10 reps. and I wont even get into what he could do on deadlifts. plus the man could blowup and pop hot water baloons that takes some serious strength and crazy lung capacity. you could never do that! you are not that great! as for powerliftingg franco would make you look like a little child! and he never used  those gay slings. your free weight set was somewhat impressive Ill give you that. I think you could bump that weight up and you used good form wich is nice to see. you have some potential but need to train your core muscles a little more. you dont have lats like franco. or have as stron as a back. and franco used minimal AAS when he was off-season. just got better drugs than you and used very little. you use way more AAS and HGH than franco ever did and he would crush you if he was in his prime. even fakhri mubarak who was a IFBB pro would do sets with 405 bench and could do sets of 8-10 easily and he was about your height but weighed a little less. I would stick to the free weights and bump up the wieghts as you seem to be very strong on the flat bench I think I saw you using 165pd dumbells with no problem and great form. you need to use 200's and when you bench get back up to 405 and do sets of 8-10. your not that strong for your weight especially with the hormones like I have said 3 times. 300mg prop and some clen-LOL what else??? if thats it your not using prop right. might as well use sust or maybe a longer ester like cyp or enan. id go with sust EOD that would be a better reccomendation than 300mg prop 750mg sust, 250mg eod.I could set you up on a great cycle you would blow up like nitro.

[MrBigandCut]

In steves defence there are low doses used on cruise cycles, especially with lighter Pros like him so it could be quite believeable. If he trains mon through to friday and takes the test prop mon wed friday the drop in test wont be that great over the weekend when he probably dosent train away! So yes as a cruise dose beileveable as a mass or precontest dose obviously not!! 

[doriancutlerman]

Anyway...now 6 x 365...my best was 8-10 x 405 like 2 years ago.

 

Steve, what happened, man?  Are you injured, a hell of a lot lighter than you were 2 years ago or what?  There's a big difference between 365x6 and 405x8-10!

[doriancutlerman]

Franco columbu was lighter than you by like 30 pounds maybe 40 pounds and he could lift way more than 405 for 5 reps on the bench and he wasn't such a roid junkie. if you are using prop or suspension those are best when used everyday to keep hormone levels stable. shooting 300mg prop every week makes no sense. 100mg a day makes sense. steve you are a confusing man. one day you are lifting 85's for 5 sets. now you are usingg some gay looking sling. i think you should scratch the sling and man up like franco and becnh 455 raw. for 8 -10 reps like franco could c'mon he was your height and even weighed less.

Franco never benched 455 for 8-10.  He'd be incredibly lucky to do a double with that in his prime.  Remember him struggling with a little over 4 plates near the beginning of "Pumping Iron"?

[MrBigandCut]

but Franco was the strongest bodybuilder who ever lived? or so he says in pumping iron!

[whitewidow]

Franco never benched 455 for 8-10.  He'd be incredibly lucky to do a double with that in his prime.  Remember him struggling with a little over 4 plates near the beginning of "Pumping Iron"?

didnt see that you mean when he was benching on muscle beach thats really the only benching clip of him in pumping iron and arnold was making him laugh . I saw him on muscle beach warming up with 315.I also have seen him lifting 4 and a half plates for reps with no spotter! he also had the best pull-up form ever so wide gripped. the man was crazy strong. way stronger than steve namat. plus everything was raw! maybe a little chalk. franco could max 550lbs on bench weighing around 200lbs.He was a powerlifter/bodybuilder. dude was a freak! pd for pd he was stronger than almost anybody in that era. He also one a bunch of strongmen contest and I dont think there has ever been another bodybuilder who had the lung capacity to blow up a hot water balloon. Franco was a beast

[BB]

Columbu's best officially credited bench was in the low #450's for a single.

[gcb]

Franco's numbers taken off wikipedia:

    * Bench press 525 Lbs / 238,35 kg
    * Squat (exercise) 665 Lbs / 301,91 kg
    * Deadlift 750 Lbs / 340,5 kg (in some training sessions, he was reported to have lifted over 780 Lbs / 354,12 kg, all at a bodyweight of less than 190 Lbs / 86,26 kg)

[BB]

Might be gym bench at a higher offseason weight. the 450ish one was at #181.

[whitewidow]

Franco's numbers taken off wikipedia:

    * Bench press 525 Lbs / 238,35 kg
    * Squat (exercise) 665 Lbs / 301,91 kg
    * Deadlift 750 Lbs / 340,5 kg (in some training sessions, he was reported to have lifted over 780 Lbs / 354,12 kg, all at a bodyweight of less than 190 Lbs / 86,26 kg)

this is true. like I said he would bench 455pds with no spotter. only did maybe 6-8 reps but thats alot of weight for someone under 200lbs. plus his deadlift weight was nutts. the guy was one strong dude pd for pd one of the strongest in that era. If you put him on todays pros stacks god knows what he could lift. He did these lifts mainly on the old trusted Test,dianabol and deca stack with may some halotestin. I know he bridged with anavar when he was supposively off cycle. but they didn't think it was that bad for the HPTA back then.  but it is. alot of people didnt think anavar effected the HPTA that much or at all back then. Franco was not a megadoser like todays pros. I wish he had access to what todays pros have access to. he would of lifted some serious weight for his height and weight. being around francos height and weight he is a idol to me. hard work ethic.I appreciate any pro who posts here and steve is strong I was impressed with him lifting free-weights but he is no franco! It is nice to have a pro post here but I hope he isnt lying about his usage. he seems pretty honest to me. but only steve knows what he really takes. If he claims he is down to do a doping test than I think he is telling the truth. some guys are just naturally strong and do not need much juice. what brand is this prop? I have to get me some of this potent prop.

[HUGEPECS]

Steve doesn't know what chemical enhancements are.....