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IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« on: November 18, 2011, 09:11:07 PM »

As I've watched more and more interviews with professional BB's, more than half or rather most BB's tend to give more credit to Arnold Classic overall than to IFBB? You name it production, judging, courtesy staff etc. Agree? Disagree?

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 09:39:34 PM »
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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 09:40:40 PM »
i have competed in both and can say without a doubt that i like the ifbb more than arnold schwartznigger

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 11:27:13 PM »
The ASC is by far the better event, organization or whatever you want to call it.  It also has the better people working for and competing in the event.  The Olympia is better in name alone...just like winning an Olympic gold medal in the 100 meters or having  having the world record in said event.  You are the best ever with the world record until your time is bested.  But with the gold you will be forever remembered.

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2011, 06:28:36 AM »
arnold used to put on the olympia in columbus,they should him and lorrimer run the show once every 5 years to keep the standards up.

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2011, 07:26:19 AM »
Most pro's like this one the most...

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 07:32:26 AM »
The ASC has more name rec with the public, because they know Arnold, people don't really know Mr. Olympia or only know Joe Weider from the weight machines.

The ASC should replace Mr. O as the premier bbing contest---or let Arnold take over in name the Mr. Olympia...

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2011, 07:32:59 AM »
The ASC has more name rec with the public, because they know Arnold, people don't really know Mr. Olympia or only know Joe Weider from the weight machines.

The ASC should replace Mr. O as the premier bbing contest---or let Arnold take over in name the Mr. Olympia...
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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2011, 07:47:39 AM »
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Joe won't do it because of his ego...but it could be the best business discision yet.
What would happen is that it would allow the the two grow independently in terms of money...
500k or 1 million for #1.

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 07:40:29 PM »
The ASC is by far the better event, organization or whatever you want to call it.  It also has the better people working for and competing in the event.  The Olympia is better in name alone...just like winning an Olympic gold medal in the 100 meters or having  having the world record in said event.  You are the best ever with the world record until your time is bested.  But with the gold you will be forever remembered.

True. The name Olympia and also being around longer. But, the way "Mr.Olympia" is heading with its own athletes not being too fond of it, might back fire sooner or later towards the organization. Unless they get paid to zip it.
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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 08:01:34 PM »
True. The name Olympia and also being around longer. But, the way "Mr.Olympia" is heading with its own athletes not being too fond of it, might back fire sooner or later towards the organization. Unless they get paid to zip it.

with the way you have worded this post and the way you word your opening post, it sound like you think the ifbb, arnold classic and the mr olympia are separate orginizations.

no mention of mr olympia in your opening post but some getbiggers seemed to have read that.

"ifbb vs arnold classic"

...the arnold IS the IFBB.

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 08:05:58 PM »
The Arnold is the reason why the Olympia prize money has gotton as high as it is now

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 08:21:15 PM »
with the way you have worded this post and the way you word your opening post, it sound like you think the ifbb, arnold classic and the mr olympia are separate orginizations.

no mention of mr olympia in your opening post but some getbiggers seemed to have read that.

"ifbb vs arnold classic"

...the arnold IS the IFBB.

Correction sir! SO anal...but fixed! Also hint was trying to refer back to RX MOGOL's post to IFBB/The Olympia.

True. The name Olympia and also being around longer. But, the way "Mr.Olympia" Olympia aka IFBB is heading with its own athletes not being too fond of it, might back fire sooner or later towards the organization. Unless they get paid to zip it.

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 08:22:13 PM »
The Arnold is the reason why the Olympia prize money has gotton as high as it is now

How much is the #1 prize money for ASC compared to olympia/ifbb
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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2011, 01:39:07 AM »
Quote from: Big N link=topic=402759.msg57javascript:void(0);29818#msg5729818 date=1321762933
How much is the #1 prize money for ASC compared to olympia/ifbb

the IFBB Arnold Classic cannot exceed more prize money given away than the IFBB mr olympia.

the IFBB mr olympia MUST remain as the most prestigious bodybuilding competition.

the IFBB Arnold Classic's 1st prize is currently $130,000.
the IFBB mr olympia is $200,000.

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2011, 01:44:16 AM »
the IFBB Arnold Classic cannot exceed more prize money given away than the IFBB mr olympia, ever.

the mr olympia MUST remain as the most prestigious bodybuilding competition.

the IFBB Arnold Classic's 1st prize is currently $130,000.
the IFBB mr olympia is $200,000.
Correct, this is why it has pushed Olympia money up, there was one year that the Arnold first place was higher cause Arnold himself was pushing for it and apparently some people that run the O didn't like it so Arnold backed off, but if it wasn't for that rule Arnold would have brought the total to a Million by now

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 12:19:12 AM »
The ASC used to give a Hummer as well as money...that was squashed becuz the IFBB (Wider) did not want to have the Olympia obligated to do the same, to not look bad and cheap

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 02:43:02 AM »
What do you guys think is more fun to go to as a spectator?  I really wanted to go to the O next year, but the ASC is alot closer, and I have an idea the expo may actually be better?  What do you think?

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 03:26:31 AM »
Correct, this is why it has pushed Olympia money up, there was one year that the Arnold first place was higher cause Arnold himself was pushing for it and apparently some people that run the O didn't like it so Arnold backed off, but if it wasn't for that rule Arnold would have brought the total to a Million by now

I seriously doubt anyone will blow $1M on a bodybuilding show.  Arnold would have broke $200K for 1st place before the Olympia, probably $250K. I don't think 90% of the people in Columbus are there for men's bodybuilding now.  GNC had an $100k show for 1st place, and look how fast they folded it.  The Olympia will draw by namebrand, and Arnold has the other activities to bring in people, but the other shows will always be $10k-$30K maybe for 1st place.

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 04:30:52 AM »
I seriously doubt anyone will blow $1M on a bodybuilding show.  Arnold would have broke $200K for 1st place before the Olympia, probably $250K. I don't think 90% of the people in Columbus are there for men's bodybuilding now.  GNC had an $100k show for 1st place, and look how fast they folded it.  The Olympia will draw by namebrand, and Arnold has the other activities to bring in people, but the other shows will always be $10k-$30K maybe for 1st place.
When I said a million, I meant total, Mens, Female,figure etc..., why not the Olympia is almost at a million

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 06:40:39 AM »
What do you guys think is more fun to go to as a spectator?  I really wanted to go to the O next year, but the ASC is alot closer, and I have an idea the expo may actually be better?  What do you think?
If you are going to just watch bodybuilding, the Olympia is better.  The Arnold expo is extremely crowded and downtown hotel rooms are hard to find.  If you are going to watch other events like strongman, weightlifting, arm wrestling, etc., then the Arnold is the place to be.     

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 06:51:20 AM »
When you sober up, let us all know.

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Re: IFBB vs Arnold Classic
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2011, 06:59:00 AM »
Correct, this is why it has pushed Olympia money up, there was one year that the Arnold first place was higher cause Arnold himself was pushing for it and apparently some people that run the O didn't like it so Arnold backed off, but if it wasn't for that rule Arnold would have brought the total to a Million by now
Arnold gor around it by offering Hummers and Rolexes...

I think he himself had said that 1st place finishers should make 1 million...
And if he had his way, I no doubt think he would have the #1 make 1 mill at his show.

But, if that happened, do you think the guys would be doing some extreme shit to win that mill, creating a truly hyper competitive atmosphere?