Is Martin Berkhan Natural?

[hematocritter]

Martin B is on AAS?
I've seen more roided out physiques in photos of Auschwitz.

[closeline]

if this guy is , he could be clean too

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

I started following the IF approach januari 2011, and I went from 103kg to a extremely flat 83kg (230lb to approx 184lb. 6'1) Very lean but no muscle fullness at all. Also, my lifts which were normally pretty decent, went to shit.
After this I started eating more (and not clean at all, cookies, pizzas etc. PWO) and I blew up like a balloon. I only gained 4kg (193lb now) but the difference in my physique is night and day. Bodyfat still very low (veins on stomach/quads etc.) and my lifts are as good as when I was 230.

All in all very pleased with this method.

To some extent, I  actually agree with TA. Yes you CAN eat pies, pizza's and icecream and maintain a lean physique. I think it contributes nicely in muscle fullness/recovery PWO. Ofcourse It shouldn't be your only nutrition, but this "I need to eat steamed vegetables and rice" bullshit is so overrated its not even funny. 

[L.L]

K-rod is it you mate?

yeah!what up??

[L.L]

if this guy is , he could be clean too

that Martin twig i believe is AAS free but this bald fucker isnt..this bald headed dude is on shit for sure.

[hematocritter]

that Martin twig i believe is AAS free but this bald fucker isnt..this bald head dude is on shit for sure.

I agree

[ChristopherA]

I agree

X3

[StanZoLOL]

the bald cuunt is def on something

[mistah]

The bold guy is Boris Kleine, used to be one of the best BodyBuilder in Europe, so he used tons in past, but since he retired he been clean, he claims atleast

[ChristopherA]

The bold guy is Boris Kleine, used to be one of the best BodyBuilder in Europe, so he used tons in past, but since he retired he been clean, he claims atleast

Yeah I'm sure he's clean now. Once a juicer, always a juicer. You might take breaks, even extended ones but you always go back. What are you gonna say, "Yeah these work awesome but I wont take them anymore."

[Van_Bilderass]

that Martin twig i believe is AAS free but this bald fucker isnt..this bald head dude is on shit for sure.

That's Boris Kleine. Was a monster and a huge steroid dealer. He lives here in Sweden now. One of my training partners said he was fishing with him somewhere around here pretty recently. Seems like he's into that now - fishing.

Yes he's still on a little something.

[dustin]

That's Boris Kleine. Was a monster and a huge steroid dealer. He lives here in Sweden now. One of my training partners said he was fishing with him somewhere around here pretty recently. Seems like he's into that now - fishing.

Yes he's still on a little something.

He's definitely on some creatine and maybe a pre workout supplement of some sort.

I bet he probably has a drink a lot of whey shakes and BCAAs to stay anabolic enough to support that muscle mass. We should probably ask Layne Nortrom if he knows what stack this guy's on.

[Mawse]

Shelby really packing on the mass.

Berkhan may or may not be natural but he's definitely a magnet for liar deniers, his 'star clients' are a whos-who of internet liars

[OptimusPrime1980]

if this guy is , he could be clean too

lol i knew boris, trained with him a couple of times...
he was a crazy fu#$er!! busted his thyroid, and at 26 already had worn out knees.
went to jail for selling steroids, he is still on probation and offcourse WILL SAY he is clean.
but he is not, he has to be on trt/hrt to even be able to get out of bed!
the guy was on massive amounts of steroids/hgh/insulin. also recs, amfetamines, i remember him driving thrue the netherlands, germany ,and belgium non stop in his volkswagen passat vr6 lolol!
great guy though, very friendly and always ready to help.
i was very young when i met him, when asked by me what he used, he responded: you should do what i tell you to do, not what i do..... you will get healthproblems! lol.....
but guess what , after all these years of abuse, he got a clean bill of health when released from jail...

[Dr Dutch]

Where the hell have you been....    ?

[OptimusPrime1980]

Where the hell have you been....    ?

lol.. busy man! training, working, training....
i am training mma now, so that means 2 times a day i am training!
and in the weekends i work, security guard for a local band.
leaves less time for getbig, but i always check in every once in a while!

you missed me didnīt you....? brings tears to my eyes....

[gh15]

lol.. busy man! training, working, training....
i am training mma now, so that means 2 times a day i am training!
and in the weekends i work, security guard for a local band.
leaves less time for getbig, but i always check in every once in a while!

you missed me didnīt you....? brings tears to my eyes....

they miss you because you know your bodybuild ,, you know your shit,, you know how it is ,,they like fellas who been there and know the truth,, thats why they miss you ,, on every one like you they get 100 dantas and sons so when you come here they follow you say and pay atention because they knwo this is where north is ,, they always get south east west ,, they always look for north and you are one of the fellas who give them true north ,, like good compass,,ofcourse they will miss you

gh15 approved

[OptimusPrime1980]

they miss you because you know your bodybuild ,, you know your shit,, you know how it is ,,they like fellas who been there and know the truth,, thats why they miss you ,, on every one like you they get 100 dantas and sons so when you come here they follow you say and pay atention because they knwo this is where north is ,, they always get south east west ,, they always look for north and you are one of the fellas who give them true north ,, like good compass,,ofcourse they will miss you

gh15 approved

lol! i am getting all teared  up...
thanx for the props divine one!

i do know my bodybuilding and love the "sport" , it's just nowadays it has gone bad.
and i am tall, so i have to use so much shit to fill out and look competitive.
really hard to look full at my height!
i still work out though, to vain to let it all go....  
i am a lot lighter now @ 105 kilo. I was about 117kg's, i am 1,90m, that is 6"3 i think?
a lot better in the gastank department nowadays though, so that means no TREN lol!
just a little test prop, and npp, all at low doses....
want to get some hgh, but living in brasil it is difficult, customs here are a nightmare!

maybe when i quit fighting, i will do a masters show lol!!
the pic is what i look like now....pic is a little blurry(cellphone)

Abracos...

[OptimusPrime1980]

pics...

[njflex]

pics...

good job mate,,can't tell your tall good balance top to bottom,,illusion,,good luck with fighting.

[OptimusPrime1980]

good job mate,,can't tell your tall good balance top to bottom,,illusion,,good luck with fighting.

thanx bro....!
still lift weights to compliment my mma training. and i think one should also look like one can kick some ass, and not just have the ability to fight but look like a couch potato... lol!
do feel alot healthier now that i am lighter though....
can't imagine what it must be like for the current top pros, the tall ones being 300 pounds.... must be hard...!

[njflex]

thanx bro....!
still lift weights to compliment my mma training. and i think one should also look like one can kick some ass, and not just have the ability to fight but look like a couch potato... lol!
do feel alot healthier now that i am lighter though....
can't imagine what it must be like for the current top pros, the tall ones being 300 pounds.... must be hard...!

well your height depending on structure i'm sure you could squeeze 70 more lbs,,,

[OptimusPrime1980]

well your height depending on structure i'm sure you could squeeze 70 more lbs,,,

sure, but will i be happy and feel good... lol! that is what i was getting at..
seems like a handycap almost...
i was 120 kg's at my heaviest, did not feel to good.... lol!
could have been the tren ofcourse.... but really i feel more agile now, have a gastank that lasts!

i like the look of the late 80's
at 6'2/6'3 a max of about 250 pounds.....

[njflex]

sure, but will i be happy and feel good... lol! that is what i was getting at..
seems like a handycap almost...
i was 120 kg's at my heaviest, did not feel to good.... lol!
could have been the tren ofcourse.... but really i feel more agile now, have a gastank that lasts!

i like the look of the late 80's
at 6'2/6'3 a max of about 250 pounds.....

yeah,,rolf mueller was what 6'6 and looked out of place on stage,,but i bet in gym was enormous,,he looked huge in pics ,,too tall to compete mr o stage.i know u were'are like myself a big demey fan ,,guy had great overall look.

[aesthetics]

thanx bro....!
still lift weights to compliment my mma training. and i think one should also look like one can kick some ass, and not just have the ability to fight but look like a couch potato... lol!
do feel alot healthier now that i am lighter though....
can't imagine what it must be like for the current top pros, the tall ones being 300 pounds.... must be hard...!

not real hard when you get paid 6 figures to eat, sleep, train, and fuck women.