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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #125 on: November 28, 2011, 04:46:56 AM »
yeah,,rolf mueller was what 6'6 and looked out of place on stage,,but i bet in gym was enormous,,he looked huge in pics ,,too tall to compete mr o stage.i know u were'are like myself a big demey fan ,,guy had great overall look.
yeah DeMey is one of my favorites! that is where it shoud be as far as mass goes. He was 6'1 and 230 on stage, and when he got his 3rd place on the O stage he was 223 pounds! Today he would have to weigh at least 260/270, with a gut and stupidly big legs...

I just train to be muscular and in shape now, and training mma is real cool. Also a lot more money in mma than bb... lol!
and it is a hell of a cardio work out! i do not even diet, eat what i want! and i am in shape.
and yeah, as a tall dude i never look impressive in pics, but irl i am a big dude!
and to normal people i am huge ! just here on getbig a person at 6'3 and 235 is called a twink! lolol!
everybody here is 270 ripped at 5'9 and dating supermodels...  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #126 on: November 28, 2011, 05:26:57 AM »
could be natural. a hair too lean.
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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #127 on: November 28, 2011, 05:58:09 AM »
Definitely possible without gear.
 
Dr Berardi just gave IF a shot. Pretty interesting results...

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/john_berardis_great_fasting_experiment

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #128 on: November 28, 2011, 09:02:46 AM »
Definitely possible without gear.
 
Dr Berardi just gave IF a shot. Pretty interesting results...

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/john_berardis_great_fasting_experiment

gimmick story to cover up ped usage.
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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #129 on: November 28, 2011, 11:03:44 AM »
T-nation is a gimmick.

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #130 on: November 28, 2011, 11:26:47 AM »
Definitely possible without gear.
 
Dr Berardi just gave IF a shot. Pretty interesting results...

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/john_berardis_great_fasting_experiment

T-Nation is the epitome and temple for bodybuilding shills, bro. Couldn't have picked a worse example to illustrate your point.

Nevertheless, I still like IF but I'm not putting down the vial of trenbologna any time soon. IF works seamlessly with my lifestyle so it's great that I can do it and reap the rewards without having to make any big sacrifices. I break my fast whenever I see fit though. The trenbologna in my blood keeps me lean as shit anyway. Whenever I break the fast or cheat absurdly, all it results in is a big ass pump.

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #131 on: November 28, 2011, 12:43:06 PM »
You have to set this into perspective imo. Check his pictures, they're all heavily cropped, taken from weird angles and never reveal too much of his physique. I don't think there are any pictures of his legs or even full body shots. He looks like a novice lifter in clothes, see


Some of his clients are definitely chemical, though.

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #132 on: November 28, 2011, 12:47:47 PM »
No who's gimmick is beverast. Gimmicks should be forbidden here, except when they reallt contribute (and that's not often the case)...... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #133 on: November 28, 2011, 01:28:26 PM »
They sell some super overpriced "supplements" ::) in a pseudo power-tool case... :-\

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #134 on: December 03, 2011, 01:35:20 AM »
lol i knew boris, trained with him a couple of times...
he was a crazy fu#$er!! busted his thyroid, and at 26 already had worn out knees.
went to jail for selling steroids, he is still on probation and offcourse WILL SAY he is clean.
but he is not, he has to be on trt/hrt to even be able to get out of bed!
the guy was on massive amounts of steroids/hgh/insulin. also recs, amfetamines, i remember him driving thrue the netherlands, germany ,and belgium non stop in his volkswagen passat vr6 lolol!
great guy though, very friendly and always ready to help.
i was very young when i met him, when asked by me what he used, he responded: you should do what i tell you to do, not what i do..... you will get healthproblems! lol.....
but guess what , after all these years of abuse, he got a clean bill of health when released from jail...




where did you train with him in Berk.... ?

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #135 on: December 03, 2011, 04:28:51 AM »

where did you train with him in Berk.... ?
no man, The Netherlands..
Boris used to visit a Gym there all the time, business .... lol!
I will not go and mention the exact location, for obvious reasons.
Back in the day , boris used to travel around The Netherlands and Belgium a lot....
That is where i got to know him a bit, very cool guy!
When he told a story , sometimes i pissed myself laughing... sounded so funny , him talking english in his German accent.. lol!
But also a real wake up call as to what it takes to be a top Bodybuild...
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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #136 on: December 03, 2011, 04:45:58 AM »
no man, The Netherlands..
Boris used to visit a Gym there all the time, business .... lol!
I will not go and mention the exact location, for obvious reasons.
Back in the day , boris used to travel around The Netherlands and Belgium a lot....
That is where i got to know him a bit, very cool guy!
When he told a story , sometimes i pissed myself laughing... sounded so funny , him talking english in his German accent.. lol!
But also a real wake up call as to what it takes to be a top Bodybuild...

ok,  8)

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #137 on: December 03, 2011, 04:58:47 AM »
ok,  8)

lol....  you thought i was talking out of my ass????  ;D
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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #138 on: December 03, 2011, 10:40:36 AM »
he have a mini replica of gunter shclierkamp body exact same exept this kid is not on mega quantity of hormones.. yet!

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #139 on: December 04, 2011, 01:39:43 AM »
lol....  you thought i was talking out of my ass????  ;D

no no , i thought i may know you because i trained in the same gym as boris did for a few years

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #140 on: December 04, 2011, 01:41:17 AM »
lol....  you thought i was talking out of my ass????  ;D
You weren't...?  ???

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #141 on: December 04, 2011, 01:54:37 AM »


u think ...???? thats always the type of cardio I do..and yes this is me.













You have a bigger waist that art artwood. and your chest looks like utter garbage.

Why is it that genetic failures such as yourself can't just face simple truths, but instead always opt to abuse the hell out of drugs?

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #142 on: December 04, 2011, 02:41:56 AM »
slinpimp look very good,, VERY VERY GOOD,, the level of bodybuild in thunderdome is high,, i keep telling you that even the amatuers here are pretty high,, dont confuse being anonymous with not bein g abodybuildr,, majority of the fellas here are bodybuild,, many pros ,, many amatuers ,, very few fellas who are fans only,, 80-90% of this boarding is bodybuild that are serious about their bodybuild

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #143 on: December 04, 2011, 02:43:20 AM »
You have to set this into perspective imo. Check his pictures, they're all heavily cropped, taken from weird angles and never reveal too much of his physique. I don't think there are any pictures of his legs or even full body shots. He looks like a novice lifter in clothes, see


Some of his clients are definitely chemical, though.

he looks average as fck in this pic

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #144 on: December 04, 2011, 02:52:20 AM »
he looks average as fck in this pic

thats bcause naturals that lie look like crap off hormones,, then they go on and the litle they use give them the 5-10lb they need and they claim natural and everyone is happy while they are hormonized,, this is the liar scambags you deal with ,,

a true natural fade into NOTHINGNESS,, look like he never lift a weighgt in his life standing side profile ,, im telling you fellas who have no clue about bodybuild new trainees 175lb 18% fellas stand in gymnasium and look in true naturals and say when they pointed out to them ,, this fellas is little very small fella ,, the 18% 175 5'11 fatzo says it about 160lb 5'11 8-10% fella...why? because it is tiny indeed ,, it is just small,, especialy when bodyfat is in the upper singles where its not real shred and no size to talk about...

in reality there is no true naturals lol ,, they all used halodrol and fat burners and all on creatine to some degree and been through shit lol but they ar call naturals for they dont hav econsistancy in hormone intake,, they look like SHIT when they dont train or eat on the clock for 2 weeks! they look like absolit shit ,, very small , very feagilel ,, not even like fellas who work out forget about bodybuild,,

this is just the truth fellas,,

you got to understand this once and for all ,, when you see fella with shirt on that use bare minimum inorder to pull natural ilusion and sell it....when they are  off the hormone they look like fragile homos ,, i keep telling you this ,, they look thin they lose the deep cuts for the body can nto hold it for that long unless going into real smallvile land of size which is in the 140s 150s and that is just not acceptable for 5'10 ,, so they are just looking average to small with clothes on when off hormone ,, then go on hormone and minimal doses to pull the illusion of natural ,, they make sure evrything is on point so they can pull natural illusion with minimal doses and everything got to be on point as of trininf and diet when it comes to number of meal a day for they only use the doses needed,, minimal doses to pull natural ilusion

the term natural bodybuild = dead,, been dead for long time,, now day very very few maybe 10% are true naturals 10% out of allllllll bodybuilders all over world are true naturals ,, only 10 % this is 1 out of every 10 bodybuildrs 

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #145 on: December 04, 2011, 02:57:45 AM »
this is where natural stops

any more muscle and you are either fat or on hormones

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #146 on: December 04, 2011, 04:59:39 AM »
this is where natural stops

any more muscle and you are either fat or on hormones
very good example..... offcourse some individuals have better shape, and therefore LOOK bigger.
but mass wise, this pic is a good example, also the % of fat is very very good example.
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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #147 on: December 04, 2011, 05:02:30 AM »
very good example..... offcourse some individuals have better shape, and therefore LOOK bigger.
but mass wise, this pic is a good example, also the % of fat is very very good example.

But look at Skip LieCour, he's so much bigger and he's natural, he won natural shows....
























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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #148 on: December 04, 2011, 05:03:38 AM »
T-Nation is the epitome and temple for bodybuilding shills, bro. Couldn't have picked a worse example to illustrate your point.

Nevertheless, I still like IF but I'm not putting down the vial of trenbologna any time soon. IF works seamlessly with my lifestyle so it's great that I can do it and reap the rewards without having to make any big sacrifices. I break my fast whenever I see fit though. The trenbologna in my blood keeps me lean as shit anyway. Whenever I break the fast or cheat absurdly, all it results in is a big ass pump.

Thats what I was going to experiment with.....my usual food choices with IF....then my cheat day on sundays....

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Re: Is Martin Berkhan Natural?
« Reply #149 on: December 04, 2011, 05:10:06 AM »
But look at Skip LieCour, he's so much bigger and he's natural, he won natural shows....
























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