Author Topic: Great Crossfit rant (Read 6945 times)

Coach is Back! · « **on:** November 20, 2011, 10:07:16 AM »

It's a little long but worth the listen.

johnnynoname · « **Reply #1 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:09:26 AM »

the fact that this guy spent 14 minutes to dismiss crossfit makes him lose credibility in my eyes

Why take 14 minutes when it takes last than 15 seconds to say the following sentence: "Crossfit is a Gimmick/Fad"

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #2 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:12:47 AM »

Quote from: johnnynoname on November 20, 2011, 10:09:26 AM

the fact that this guy spent 14 minutes to dismiss crossfit makes him lose credibility in my eyes

Why take 14 minutes when it takes last than 15 seconds to say the following sentence: "Crossfit is a Gimmick/Fad"

Explaining the dangers of crossfit makes it worth listening too.

johnnynoname · « **Reply #3 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:15:21 AM »

I'm well aware of the fact that Crossfit is very dangerous for a novice hence why i'm not listening

let me guess- does he talk about how dumb "kipping chin ups" are?

Hulkotron · « **Reply #4 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:16:58 AM »

I don't truly "hate" a lot of things but I hate CrossFit.

njanvi · « **Reply #5 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:20:38 AM »

Any explanation that requires more than a minute or two on any topic is by definition full of horse doodoo

wes mantooth · « **Reply #6 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:20:59 AM »

not sure what I hate more...crossfit itself...or the koolaid drinkers that LIVE it!

"dude, the crossfit games are on...were all getting together in tank tops and 5 toed shoes to NOT drink beer to watch it. Crossfit is awesome BRO!"

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #7 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:23:10 AM »

Quote from: johnnynoname on November 20, 2011, 10:15:21 AM

I'm well aware of the fact that Crossfit is very dangerous for a novice hence why i'm not listening

let me guess- does he talk about how dumb "kipping chin ups" are?

No, talks more of the physiological effects and progressions and programming......how there is none!

njanvi · « **Reply #8 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:27:10 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on November 20, 2011, 10:23:10 AM

No, talks more of the physiological effects and progressions and programming......how there is none!

No offense coach, but I'm not a fan of pretending that there is great science in precision involved where it isn't. This dude is trying to snow people with horse crap. I'm not a fan of crosscut, but let's not pretend that there is all of this scientific evidence backing his approach either.

johnnynoname · « **Reply #9 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:28:26 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on November 20, 2011, 10:23:10 AM

No, talks more of the physiological effects and progressions and programming......how there is none!

exactly- there is no "beginner course"...you start doing the full workouts even if you are totally out of shape- I got it

Actually, I don't care about that

my hatred towards crossfit is the same as my hate for P90x. My hatred is based on bitterness towards the fact that I didn't think about making money off of 70 year old work outs that my uncles did in the Navy

the fitness business is ALL A GIMMICK

j3di3 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:29:54 AM »

while i dont have any point of view on crossfit, some of their drills are fun to do

johnnynoname · « **Reply #11 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:32:25 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on November 20, 2011, 10:27:10 AM

No offense coach, but I'm not a fan of pretending that there is great science in precision involved where it isn't. This dude is trying to snow people with horse crap. I'm not a fan of crosscut, but let's not pretend that there is all of this scientific evidence backing his approach either.

no matter what some guy with a diploma in kinesology says Fitness is running from point a to point b as fast as possible and lifting heavy things up and down

seriously, do you think Mohammad Ali ever foam rolled?

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #12 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:35:11 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on November 20, 2011, 10:27:10 AM

No offense coach, but I'm not a fan of pretending that there is great science in precision involved where it isn't. This dude is trying to snow people with horse crap. I'm not a fan of crosscut, but let's not pretend that there is all of this scientific evidence backing his approach either.

Actually there is quite a bit. Did you listen to the video?

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #13 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:36:07 AM »

Quote from: johnnynoname on November 20, 2011, 10:32:25 AM

no matter what some guy with a diploma in kinesology says Fitness is running from point a to point b as fast as possible and lifting heavy things up and down

seriously, do you think Mohammad Ali ever foam rolled?

Did they know about it back then? No, of course not.

johnnynoname · « **Reply #14 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:39:33 AM »

Poor Pele'

...if only he knew about PNF stretching....he would have been the greatest...it's a shame

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:41:27 AM »

Quote from: johnnynoname on November 20, 2011, 10:39:33 AM

Poor Pele'

...if only he knew about PNF stretching....he would have been the greatest...it's a shame

I don't follow soccer that much. He's not the best anymore right?

johnnynoname · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:43:12 AM »

if only Jesse Owens had a agility ladder

njanvi · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:43:55 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on November 20, 2011, 10:35:11 AM

Actually there is quite a bit. Did you listen to the video?

Coach, I did. Thing is I try very hard to not mistake precision for accuracy. Just because he laid out a bunch of theory does not make him correct......like Johnny said, it ain't that complicated. There is no great cross fit death epidemic that the news is not covering, is there?

njanvi · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:44:55 AM »

Quote from: johnnynoname on November 20, 2011, 10:43:12 AM

if only Jesse Owens had a agility ladder

If only his program was designed by Coach

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:47:04 AM »

I don't have a problem with crossfit. If it's someone's method of training to be fit more power to them. The problem I have with crossfit is that they put down lifters and runners. The truth is anyone who doesn't follow what they percieve to be the ultimate way to be fit is to be put down. That makes it almost cult like.

Another truth is that most guys that lift weights would be embarrassed trying to keep up with a hard core crossfit class.

viking1 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:49:22 AM »

I don't really mind CF. At least, people are motivated and working out.

I just can't stand the attitude of CF'ers though. It's the 'latest' craze where if you're into something else(sport, training program, etc.), they act like you're inferior to them. It's really bizarre. And, "Work Capacity Across Broad Time And Modal Domain" – lol, what the hell is that?

I'm a competitive cyclist.... I have to train mega hours on the bike and powerlift. That's it. Then, I get people asking me, "ever heard of crossift???" "Dude, do you do crossfit??" "you should check out crossfit... it'll help you"

oh well lol

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #21 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:52:35 AM »

Quote from: johnnynoname on November 20, 2011, 10:43:12 AM

if only Jesse Owens had a agility ladder

Why would a sprinter use an agility ladder? a stride ladder maybe.

johnnynoname · « **Reply #22 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:56:30 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on November 20, 2011, 10:52:35 AM

Why would a sprinter use an agility ladder? a stride ladder maybe.

this made me lol

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #23 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:57:56 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on November 20, 2011, 10:43:55 AM

Coach, I did. Thing is I try very hard to not mistake precision for accuracy. Just because he laid out a bunch of theory does not make him correct......like Johnny said, it ain't that complicated. There is no great cross fit death epidemic that the news is not covering, is there?

No, no death that I'm aware of but plenty of hospital visits. No offence, but saying it's not that complicated is just naive. That's like saying I'm going to follow this program but have do not have any idea why, why it's programmed that way or how it would physiologically effect me. That's just blind following.

BiGHer · « **Reply #24 on:** November 20, 2011, 11:02:52 AM »

I may get flamed for this, but here it goes... I like crossfit. I got huge into crossfit my senior year of college after my bball season ended. I even got certified as a "level 1" trainer with them. When they originally started, it was amazing. If you are looking to get in some of the best shape of your life, crossfit can do that for you. They originally preached a hardcore healthy diet, extremely intense workouts, and the only supplement they supported was fish oil. It was free too. Go to the crossfit web site, follow the WOD (workout of the day), and get in great shape!

It has become more gimmicky though. Once they established levels of competition and it become more of a business, what they stood for started to fade. I have even seen that some supplement companies are getting involved now which is something they would have originally never allowed, but it's tough to turn that money down!

Still, Crossfit has a solid outline to it and if you stick to what its basic teachings are, it is a great way to become a solid fitness generalist who is in great shape.