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is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« on: November 20, 2011, 12:15:15 PM »
basic equipment with heavy ass weights but charge the same as the fancy panzy gyms?

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 12:20:33 PM »
Hell no.

Well, at least here it would suck. Maybe in America there are enough people for every niche though..

I've understood that here 'gyms' make their profits (if they even make any) mainly from women. That means body pump, all kind of shit yoga, spinning, zumba, tanning salons, shiatsu therapy  etc etc.
So mainly woodoo.


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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 12:21:56 PM »
If you sold drugs and did G4P at the hardcore gym you might make some money, go for it stud
Thunderdome approved

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 12:26:31 PM »
Hell no.

Well, at least here it would suck. Maybe in America there are enough people for every niche though..

I've understood that here 'gyms' make their profits (if they even make any) mainly from women. That means body pump, all kind of shit yoga, spinning, zumba, tanning salons, shiatsu therapy  etc etc.
So mainly woodoo.



but what about all the supplement buying kids who want to be a bodybuild? they are frustrated with the shit equipment in commercial gyms

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 12:31:37 PM »
but what about all the supplement buying kids who want to be a bodybuild? they are frustrated with the shit equipment in commercial gyms

Supplements are cheaper at bigger retail chains and online stores. You might be lucky to sell them protein shakes from time to time, but the real money makers are women and people that don't even go to the gym but get a membership.

There's no money in hardcore gyms outside of selling PEDs.

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 12:36:26 PM »
The gym business is a tough one regardless if hardcore or not... it also often comes down to one thing that has nothing to do with hardcore or not...

location, location, location....

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2011, 12:38:43 PM »
Gyms are full of 120 lbs female "trainers" who lead "spinning/pilate etc" courses where 3/4 of the customers are fat whales with no clue about weight loss. They just spend 1 to 3 hours a week looking at the 120 lbs ecto bitch with fake tits and fitness clothes telling them to move their fat so they ll become just like her, until they abandon the whole things 1 month later. The "trainer" doesnt give a fuck, she got their money, and it makes her feel good to compare herself to these "losers" she calls "customers". She never intended to teach them anything anyway.

Gyms are also full of male trainers who are on steroids and act the same way with their "customers", basicaly despie them while pretending to care about them until the clients just abandon the whole thing.


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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2011, 12:48:47 PM »
thanks for the replies friends

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2011, 12:50:06 PM »
They can be profitable if they are in the inner city where there are no other chain gyms in the vicinity....
Women will bite the bullet and go to hardcore gyms if there are no Bally's or Planet Fitness nearby...blacks, Mexicans, and Puerto Ricans will go to these hardcore gyms and will pay the going rate.....thus the gym owner can create a niche market

My gym was like this.,..it was a hardcore neighborhood gym but then Planet Fitness opened up three blocks away and my gym promptly closed its doors and sold all of their memberships to another hardcore gym located in an industrial neighborhood even further removed from residential areas..so now I have to travel to to the gym when it was two blocks form my house before

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2011, 12:57:42 PM »
what fancy place doesnt have everything a bodybuilder needs? the best gym I ever been in was a 100/month gym in manhattan, every type of machine, a good ten feet of space around each machine, nothing but hot girls everywhere, lots of fags too but that's ok. one time I was working out and this woman on a star master pull her pants down and scratched her ass right in front of me, such a very hot round ass, I believe she had a very thin thong on

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2011, 01:05:42 PM »
what fancy place doesnt have everything a bodybuilder needs? the best gym I ever been in was a 100/month gym in manhattan, every type of machine, a good ten feet of space around each machine, nothing but hot girls everywhere, lots of fags too but that's ok. one time I was working out and this woman on a star master pull her pants down and scratched her ass right in front of me, such a very hot round ass, I believe she had a very thin thong on

Biggest problem is usually the lack of big boy weights. Dumbbells that only go to 80lbs, only a dozen or so 45lb plates in the entire gym, machines that only have a few hundred pounds of resistance and additionally feel light as a feather, etc.

I like my gym though, it's the "rich people gym" in my town. TONS of milfs and smoking young hotties all over the place. It's insane. 8)

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2011, 01:08:07 PM »
i dont need the big boy weights lol, and I like machines that give me leverage advantage, makes me feel stronger lol

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2011, 01:09:44 PM »
i dont need the big boy weights lol, and I like machines that give me leverage advantage, makes me feel stronger lol
one arm seated hammer rows ftw

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2011, 01:44:36 PM »
what fancy place doesnt have everything a bodybuilder needs? the best gym I ever been in was a 100/month gym in manhattan, every type of machine, a good ten feet of space around each machine, nothing but hot girls everywhere, lots of fags too but that's ok. one time I was working out and this woman on a star master pull her pants down and scratched her ass right in front of me, such a very hot round ass, I believe she had a very thin thong on

Did you shit yourself?

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2011, 01:56:19 PM »
There is a lot of competition here in the States from the large nationwide corporate chains.


Running a gym and expecting to make decent money off of it is nearly impossible these days... unless, of course, you want to run it ALL BY YOURSELF and keep your repairs, upgrades, toilet repairs, janitorial, etc. to a BARE MINIMUM.


I wouldn't dare attempt it in this economy. A hardcore gym is going to be rife with hardcore bodybuilders who are broke-ass driving beat up old cars and spending anything extra on juice. There isn't even room for personal training because they won't pay for it. Everyone else is intimidated by bodybuilders, and by "everyone else" ~ I mean this: The people who have money and keep the cash-flow consistent.


Screw that!

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2011, 01:58:55 PM »
There is a lot of competition here in the States from the large nationwide corporate chains.


Running a gym and expecting to make decent money off of it is nearly impossible these days... unless, of course, you want to run it ALL BY YOURSELF and keep your repairs, upgrades, toilet repairs, janitorial, etc. to a BARE MINIMUM.


I wouldn't dare attempt it in this economy. A hardcore gym is going to be rife with hardcore bodybuilders who are broke-ass driving beat up old cars and spending anything extra on juice. There isn't even room for personal training because they won't pay for it. Everyone else is intimidated by bodybuilders, and by "everyone else" ~ I mean this: The people who have money and keep the cash-flow consistent.


Screw that!
ha!

but everybody likes to train at the hardcore gym with the 200kg bench pressing monsters to marvel at?

but interesting points, where i live the bodybuilders are not unemployed tho

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2011, 02:02:33 PM »
Three hardcore mom + pop type gym owners told me in the past they hardly made any coin....just kept the gym open often at their own expense out of a passion for training and for bodybuilding.

Once you get the initial membership payment from a client/member,if you don`t sell supps,shirts,shakes,or any of that stuff,you make jack shit over time.

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2011, 02:03:44 PM »
Three hardcore mom + pop type gym owners told me in the past they hardly made any coin....just kept the gym open often at their own expense out of a passion for training and for bodybuilding.

Once you get the initial membership payment from a client/member,if you don`t sell supps,shirts,shakes,or any of that stuff,you make jack shit over time.

so how is it different from commercial gyms? when you charge the same but have less expenses?

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2011, 02:05:35 PM »
See Metroflex. Although I think the new one in Long Beach isn't doing well.

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2011, 02:06:59 PM »
See Metroflex. Although I think the new one in Long Beach isn't doing well.

is metroflex profitable?


it's a serious question, i always assumed brian just lived off coaching ifbb champs

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2011, 02:08:42 PM »
Can't say for sure. I know he franchises out the Metroflex model. If you go to the site I think there's info on it.

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2011, 02:12:32 PM »
A hardcore gym can be profitable, I have 5 of them, all 24:7 and open every day of the year.

You need to know who you are, what your brand is and stick to it. You also need to keep your gym clean and tidy, no matter how hardcore it is.

We are open for the 5% people that no one else wants or knows how to deal with. While the standard renewal rate in the industry is around 15%, ours is closer to 70%.

We don't have sales people or membership consultants. We do no mainstream advertising at all, just word of mouth and branding.

The right type of feel can attract all types, including elite athletes and celebrity guests. This in turn makes your regular gym goer want to be a part of something.

The best part is, if you build a gym that you would want to be a part of then you look forward to going to work every day.

All the best.

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2011, 02:13:58 PM »
now I wanna go 2 ur gym lol

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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2011, 02:15:20 PM »
BINGO ^^^^



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Re: is a hardcore bodybuild gym a profitable business?
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2011, 02:15:26 PM »
interesting