Author Topic: I don't believe I've ever seen or heard of Ron Paul getting owned in a debate.  (Read 11541 times)

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Dirty Pool Doc...Dont try and make Ron Paul Pat Robertson. You will fail and look really dumb doing it.  I suggest you put your breaks on and turn around and leave cause while you and Adam want to argue things that don't matter such as what Ron's ideals are based I'm arguing things that matter. THE ACTUAL ISSUES...You and adam are demagogingand you know damn well you are...
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Dirty Pool Doc...Dont try and make Ron Paul Pat Robertson. You will fail and look really dumb doing it.  I suggest you put your breaks on and turn around and leave cause while you and Adam want to argue things that don't matter such as what Ron's ideals are based I'm arguing things that matter. THE ACTUAL ISSUES...You and adam are demagogingand you know damn well you are...
I'll make sure to include you in my prayers, tonight, Wiggs.    ;D 

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I'll make sure to include you in my prayers, tonight, Wiggs.    ;D 

Go fuck yourself... :-* :)
I see you're not interested in debating issues just stirring up shit.

And Adam let's here some words directly from Dr. Paul vs. you cutting and pasting slanted articles...
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Go fuck yourself... :-* :)
I see you're not interested in debating issues just stirring up shit.

And Adam let's here some words directly from Dr. Paul vs. you cutting and pasting slanted articles...

So the separation of church and state is not a big deal to you?
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Show me where in the Constitution does it say it is the Governments job to give you or anyone else health care.  See you operate under the assumption that if it doesn't happen no one will do anything....WRONG

If you're not basing your ideas on the Constitution and the rule of law we have nothing to discuss.
Show me in the Constitution where it says black people should not be sent back to Africa.

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Show me in the Constitution where it says black people should not be sent back to Africa.

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Where does it say it?  I don`t see it.  ???

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Show me in the Constitution where it says black people should not be sent back to Africa.

Try reading the Emanicpation Proclamation dipshit...I'm sure you know what it is and hate it.  And if you cant get anything from that, you're more of an moron than initially belived.

In addition, Adam, because the founding fathers even acknowledged a creator and the founding fathers believed in a higher power, I assume you have issues with that and thus have a problem with the Consistution based on your line of thinking. ::)
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I don't think I've ever seen ANYone with their head further up their ass than Faux Adonis.

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So the separation of church and state is not a big deal to you?

Try listening to Ron Paul himself vs. listening to what Adam is telling you about him and posting leaning articles...Adam is an athiest and has an agenda. He's shown this in the past....Listen to the man (Ron Paul) himself.
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Adam wants to play politics with me and he'll lose everytime. Why? Because my beliefs are based on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and the Amendments to the Consitution.

Adams are based on what he believes is right in his mind and that is what every other politician is doing and why our country is in the situation it's in.
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Try reading the Emanicpation Proclamation dipshit...I'm sure you know what it is and hate it.  And if you want get anything from that, you're more of an moron than initially belived.

In addition, Adam, because the founding fathers even acknowledged a creator and the founding fathers believed in a higher power, I assume you have issues with that and thus have a problem with the Consistution based on your line of thinking. ::)
The Emancipation Proclamation has nothing to do with the Constitution.

The Emancipation Proclamation did not even free all of the slaves.  It declared free only those slaves living in states not under Union control. William Seward, Lincoln's secretary of state, commented, "We show our symapthy with slavery by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them and holding them in bondage where we can set them free." Lincoln was fully aware of the irony, but he did not want to antagonize the slave states loyal to the Union by setting their slaves free.

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Try listening to Ron Paul himself vs. listening to what Adam is telling you about him and posting leaning articles...Adam is an athiest and has an agenda. He's shown this in the past....Listen to the man (Ron Paul) himself.

I've watched a lot of videos where he discusses economic and foreign policy and he does make a lot of sense on those talking points, but I was not aware of his stance on church and state. That sort of thinking is dangerous and should not be supported no matter if you're an atheist or a believer.
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Adam wants to play politics with me and he'll lose everytime. Why? Because my beliefs are based on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and the Amendments to the Consitution.

Adams are based on what he believes is right in his mind and that is what every other politician is doing and why our country is in the situation it's in.
You know absolutely VERY LITTLE of American History, let alone the Constitution.  You don`t even read any books on the matter.


The Proclamation applied only in ten states that were still in rebellion in 1863, thus it did not cover the nearly 500,000 slaves in the slave-holding border states (Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland or Delaware) which were Union states — those slaves were freed by separate state and federal actions. The state of Tennessee had already mostly returned to Union control, so it was not named and was exempted. Virginia was named, but exemptions were specified for the 48 counties then in the process of forming the new state of West Virginia, seven additional Tidewater[clarification needed] counties individually named, and two cities. Also specifically exempted were New Orleans and 13 named parishes of Louisiana, all of which were also already mostly under Federal control at the time of the Proclamation. These exemptions left unemancipated an additional 300,000 slaves.

While the Proclamation had freed most slaves as a war measure, it had not made slavery illegal. Of the states that were exempted from the Proclamation, Maryland,[9] Missouri,[10] and Tennessee[11] prohibited slavery before the war ended; however, in Kentucky, Delaware,[12] and West Virginia slavery continued to be legal[citation needed] until December 18, 1865, when the Thirteenth Amendment went into effect.

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Furthermore, the Emancipation Proclamation did not make slavery illegal at all.

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The Emancipation Proclamation has nothing to do with the Constitution.

The Emancipation Proclamation did not even free all of the slaves.  It declared free only those slaves living in states not under Union control. William Seward, Lincoln's secretary of state, commented, "We show our symapthy with slavery by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them and holding them in bondage where we can set them free." Lincoln was fully aware of the irony, but he did not want to antagonize the slave states loyal to the Union by setting their slaves free.


You're losing the arguement, and veered off to something irrelevant and I'm not going to let you do that. You want to question that? Start another thread I'm sure it'd be a doozy.

No one said anything about the EP being the Consitution. It's another important document in the history of our country. Kind of like Amendments... ::) FAIL again...stay on my point of the thread...I can see right through your bullshit....as usual. I know what you're trying to do. The other documents that are not the Constitution are not in any contrast to the Constitution...Any laws made should be with the Constitution as their base.

I believe I've made my point. ANYTIME you want to argue actual policy issues that have to do with this country...let go...Otherwise don't come at me bro...You're not dealing with Jerome here. You're dealing with MILTON G. WIGGINS III...Come at me bro. :-*
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Maybe Obama can help Wiggs Understand the Emancipation Proclamation.

Start at 1:40



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You're losing the arguement, and veered off to something irrelevant and I'm not going to let you do that. You want to question that? Start another thread I'm sure it'd be a doozy.

No one said anything about the EP being the Consitution. It's another important document in the history of our country. Kind of like Amendments... ::) FAIL again...stay on my point of the thread...I can see right through your bullshit....as usual. I know what you're trying to do. The other documents that are not the Constitution are not in any contrast to the Constitution...Any laws made should be with the Constitution as their base.

 ???

You make absolutely zero sense.  All laws made are already governed by the Constitution and checked by the Supreme Court.

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Maybe Obama can help Wiggs Understand the Emancipation Proclamation.

Start at 1:40




LOL!!!! 

You do yourself no favors playing clips of who is perhaps the most inept and incompetent jerkoff to ever hold office.   

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You make absolutely zero sense.  All laws made are already governed by the Constitution and checked by the Supreme Court.

Laws and actions genius...Kinda like the Iraq War, going into Libya, have over 900 bases in 130 countries. Where in the Constitution did it give us authority to  have all these bases in these countries? Or go War with Iraq or Attack Libya?

What Law authorizes there to be a central bank or Federal Reserve?  The founding fathers argued directly against it.  Why is it there?  it is the number one reason the country is bankrupt...

Finally where does it say in the Constitution the government has the authority to give our tax dollars to other countries..I.E. ISRAEL for the many years we've been doing it?  IT DOES NOT.

I make plenty of sense...pull your head from your ass. ::)
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LOL!!!! 

You do yourself no favors playing clips of who is perhaps the most inept and incompetent jerkoff to ever hold office.   
Sorry, but thats just not the case.  Obama has been absolutely stellar when it comes to foreign policy.  This is Poop Paul`s weakest point by far and you have admitted that in the past.

Obama has done a very good job of holding everything together despite the weak Republican Congress that has done nothing but sit on their hands in the hopes of trying to shift the blame of their ineptitude elsewhere.

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Sorry, but thats just not the case.  Obama has been absolutely stellar when it comes to foreign policy.  This is Poop Paul`s weakest point by far and you have admitted that in the past.

Obama has done a very good job of holding everything together despite the weak Republican Congress that has done nothing but sit on their hands in the hopes of trying to shift the blame of their ineptitude elsewhere.

Wrong!  Both sides fail. We have no authority within the Constitution to play world police...By law Every war after WWII shouldn't have happened...Holding everything together?  Yeah, that's what people voted for him for was to hold everything together...Dude go back to bed and start this day over cause it's a fail.

Repub and Dem FAIL and FAIL Hard.
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Sorry, but thats just not the case.  Obama has been absolutely stellar when it comes to foreign policy.  This is Poop Paul`s weakest point by far and you have admitted that in the past.

Obama has done a very good job of holding everything together despite the weak Republican Congress that has done nothing but sit on their hands in the hopes of trying to shift the blame of their ineptitude elsewhere.

A "stellar" foreign policy? The only real "stellar" thing that has happened in the past few years foreign policy-wise was the killing of UBL and a few other terrorists. But to say that that was Obama's accomplishment is just plain stupid. Aside from that, Obama has been too busy delaying trade deals and starting unconstitutional wars.

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Laws and actions genius...Kinda like the Iraq War, going into Libya, have over 900 bases in 130 countries. Where in the Constitution did it give us authority to  have all these bases in these countries? Or go War with Iraq or Attack Libya?

What Law authorizes there to be a central bank or Federal Reserve?  The founding fathers argued directly against it.  Why is it there?  it is the number one reason the country is bankrupt...

Finally where does it say in the Constitution the government has the authority to give our tax dollars to other countries..I.E. ISRAEL for the many years we've been doing it?  IT DOES NOT.

I make plenty of sense...pull your head from your ass. ::)
Article Two, Section Two

Section 2: Presidential powers

[edit]Clause 1: Command of military; Opinions of cabinet secretaries; Pardons
“   The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.   ”
The President is the military's commander-in-chief; however Article One gives Congress and not the President the authority to declare war. Presidents have often deployed troops with Congressional authorization, but without an explicit declaration of war. According to historian Thomas Woods, "Ever since the Korean War, Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution — which refers to the president as the 'Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States' — has been interpreted to mean that the president may act with an essentially free hand in foreign affairs, or at the very least that he may send men into battle without consulting Congress."[5] Since World War II, every major military action has been technically a U.S. military operation or a U.N. "police action", which are deemed legally legitimate by Congress, and various United Nations Resolutions because of decisions such as the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, Authorization for Use of Force.[citation needed] This clause is included because it gives the President power over the troops, and under one commander, the military is bound to be more organized and efficient.

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Sorry, but thats just not the case.  Obama has been absolutely stellar when it comes to foreign policy.  This is Poop Paul`s weakest point by far and you have admitted that in the past.

Obama has done a very good job of holding everything together despite the weak Republican Congress that has done nothing but sit on their hands in the hopes of trying to shift the blame of their ineptitude elsewhere.

If obama wants a war with Iran -are you willing to go die for him?