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Re: Voter Fraud Thread
« Reply #126 on: July 25, 2012, 06:42:34 AM »
Romney camp asks Va. to probe voter forms

Mitt Romney's campaign is asking Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli to investigate mailings from the Voter Participation Center.

 
The Voter Participation Center posted this video on its website in response to reports of dogs and cats receiving its voter registration...

By: Wesley P. Hester | Richmond Times-Dispatch
Published: July 25, 2012 Updated: July 25, 2012 - 12:00 AM




Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's campaign is asking Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli to launch an investigation into voter-registration forms that are being sent to Virginia residents and addressed to deceased relatives, children, family pets and others ineligible to vote.

The errant mailings from the Washington-based nonprofit group Voter Participation Center have befuddled many Virginia residents, leading to hundreds of complaints.

The organization has been mass-mailing the forms — pre-populated with key information such as names and addresses — to primarily Democratic-leaning voting blocs such as young adults, unmarried women, African-Americans and Latinos.

In a letter to Cuccinelli's office and the State Board of Elections, Kathryn Bieber, an attorney for the Romney campaign, calls for an investigation into the matter by law-enforcement officials, claiming that the mailings appear to violate "at least one and maybe several Virginia laws aimed at ensuring a fair election."

Bieber refers to the mailings as "tactics that amount to, or at the very least induce, voter registration fraud," and says the issue "presents a very significant risk to the proper administration of the upcoming general election."

Citing a Sunday Richmond Times-Dispatch story that brought the mailings to light, the letter also asks the State Board of Elections to require registrars to reject all pre-populated voter registration applications from the group and review the eligibility of all Virginians who have registered in the past two months.

"This is the only way for voters and other interested parties to regain confidence in the voter registration and electoral process that has been abused by the Voter Participation Center," the letter says.

Page Gardner, president and CEO of the Voter Participation Center, said the organization mailed nearly 200,000 third-party registration forms to Virginia addresses in June, which resulted in 15,026 new voters being registered as of July 18.

On Monday, the Voter Participation Center responded to the Sunday Times-Dispatch story, stating in a letter on its website that "imperfections in the VPC vendors' lists — while regrettable and unfortunate — should not be the reason or the excuse to call an entire process that is working into question."

Justin Riemer, the State Board of Elections' deputy secretary, said forms have been sent by the group to deceased infants, out-of-state family members, and non-U.S. citizens, among others.

In a letter this month, the State Board of Elections asked the group to cease pre-populating their forms and raised questions about how the group was obtaining lists of registered voters, citing the errant forms.

Riemer noted that pre-populating the forms violates rules set forth in the state code and the Virginia Constitution requiring that voters fill out their own forms.

The State Board of Elections had not received the letter from the Romney campaign Tuesday afternoon and declined to comment on the specifics.

No comment was immediately available from Cuccinelli's office.

Asked for comment on the Romney campaign's letter, the Voter Participation Center issued a statement noting that their forms are official applications, not registration cards.

"Furthermore, they were approved before we sent them out by the State Board of Elections and are the same applications that anyone can access at a local government office or on the internet," the statement read.  "Our process is legal and working."




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Re: Voter Fraud Thread
« Reply #127 on: July 25, 2012, 08:27:22 AM »
Drug money funds voter fraud in Kentucky
 

By Eric Shawn
 
Published July 25, 2012
 
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Voter fraud has a shocking new meaning in eastern Kentucky.
 
That is where in some cases, major cocaine and marijuana dealers admitted to buying votes to steal elections, and the result is the corruption of American democracy. The government continues to mete out justice in the scandal, as two people convicted in April in a vote-buying case face sentencing this week, and another public official pleaded guilty Tuesday to conspiracy.
 
"We believe that drug money did buy votes," Kerry B. Harvey, U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky, said of a separate vote-buying case.
 
He described a stunning vote-buying scheme that includes "very extensive, organized criminal activity, involving hundreds of thousands of dollars, and in many cases that involves drug money."
 
Harvey has led a recent string of federal prosecutions exposing the widespread and accepted practice of vote buying in eastern Kentucky. The soft-spoken federal prosecutor, along with his team and state authorities, are waging a battle against what he characterizes as a vote-buying culture embedded in many of the communities for generations.
 
He says the problem is rooted in economic woes, which is why votes are routinely for sale. In that part of the state, jobs are scarce and poverty is high. Controlling local government means controlling jobs. 
 
“These folks go out and hijack the local elections for their own purposes and then they use those jobs to enrich themselves and their confederates. It really is a terrible problem and it has to be stopped,” Harvey explains.
 
In Clay County, according to court testimony, some of the funds to purchase votes came from massive cocaine and marijuana drug trafficking operations.
 
"They did use drug money to buy votes, and drug dealers felt they would be protected," Harvey said. 
 
Prosecutors say more than $400,000, part of it drug proceeds, was pooled by Democratic and Republican politicians over several elections, and spent to buy the votes of more than 8,000 voters, usually at $50 apiece.
 
One voter was even able to bid up the cost of his vote to $800.
 
In the Eastern District of Kentucky alone, more than 20 public elected officials and others have either been convicted or plead guilty in various vote-buying cases just in the last two years.
 
On Tuesday, former Breathitt County School Superintendent Arch Turner pleaded guilty to conspiracy during the 2010 primary election, admitting he handed out money to buy votes. On Thursday, two others will be sentenced after they were convicted of vote-buying-related charges in the same contest.
 
Vote buying "really has a corrosive effect on the very foundations of the freedoms that we enjoy," Harvey said as he sat with Fox News in his office in Lexington. "It’s hard to imagine a more serious problem that would have a more pernicious effect across the whole community."
 
"When it comes to vote buying, it’s an everyday thing. ... It’s pretty much like jaywalking," admits former Breathitt County magistrate candidate Michael Salyers, who is now serving time in jail for buying votes in his 2010 race. While the funds in his case did not involve drug money, he describes how he was given $500 and ended up buying about 10 votes. He would meet people seeking to sell their votes in the back room of a local store.
 
"The sellers in this situation would come to me and ask how much was I paying for votes, and ask me if I was buying votes or whatever, and I told them the most I could pay is $25," Salyers described to Fox News. "They would go into the machine and cast their vote...They were supposed to vote for me. They would come back to me and I would pay them for going to vote.  I had one gentleman come to me and say 'Mike, I have four votes,' so he took them to vote and I gave him $100, $25 a vote."
 
Salyers says vote buying has been so blatant that, "you used to be able to go behind the voting machine with voters, to make sure that if you bought their vote, that they would vote the way you wanted to." But the laws were strengthened, and now vote buyers have to trust that the people they pay to cast their ballots vote as they say they will.
 
He blames what he calls "the excitement of competition" for spurring him to buy his votes, but it turned out to not be money well spent. He lost the election.
 
"It’s been going on ever since I was a young boy," says 54 year-old voter Richard Moore, who admitted he sold his vote to Salyers for $25. "As soon as you become the age to vote, you have people hounding you to buy your vote."
 
Moore sat on a sofa in the house where he lives with his mother in Jackson, Ky., and described what happened.
 
"I knew Mike didn't have a chance of winning, and if he was wanting to give money away like that, then I was going to get some of it," Moore explained. He says the lack of jobs in eastern Kentucky also spurs people to make money through voter fraud.
 
"I don't feel good about it," he told us. "I wish I'd never done it. ... I think they ought to do something about it and fix it, so they can't sell votes. They should have some ways of doing things differently where people can't buy votes."
 
In the Clay County case, former Circuit Court Judge Cletus Maricle, 67, and seven others were convicted in 2010 in a massive vote-buying scheme that ran through several elections. Maricle, who was sentenced to more than 26 years behind bars, is appealing his conviction. Several convicted major drug dealers testified during the trial about just how easy it was to spread many thousands of dollars around to buy votes.
 
‘I always bought votes,” Kenneth Day testified.
 
The 60-year-old was serving 18 years in federal prison for multimillion-dollar drug trafficking. Prosecutors say he dealt in "millions of dollars in drugs, marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamine” and “had developed one of the most successful drug trafficking businesses in the whole entire region.”
 
Day admitted on the stand to “selling tons of marijuana” and hundreds of thousands of dollars of cocaine every other week. He also dealt in votes.
 
"I bought my first vote with half a pint of liquor," Day testified. He described how that mushroomed to a seemingly routine method to buy protection from politicians and win their elections. He said he even bought votes for the sheriff.
 
"That showed people on the ground who had the power and who had the money to buy the votes," Day testified. "As time went on, $5 a vote, $10 a vote. I have paid as high as $800 a vote. ... Election after election, day in and day out, every election I ever worked, it went on."
 
Day was not only an admitted drug trafficker, but he also had served as the longtime Clay County Republican commissioner of the Board of Elections.
 
Democratic Board of Elections Judge Eugene Lewis, 70, also a convicted cocaine trafficker and marijuana dealer serving a 12 years prison sentence, described how easily he bought votes over a period spanning three decades.
 
"I've also bought, traded, bought votes for different candidates," he testified. "I would pay them right in the booth. ... You would not believe the percentage of people, from school teachers down, that I have bought their vote from. It's unbelievable." 
 
J.C. Lawson, another convicted marijuana and cocaine dealer, also explained the process of buying votes. The 55-year-old testified that he helped win elections by giving candidates "voters and people and money."
 
"Where did that money come from?" U.S. Assistant Attorney Stephen C. Smith asked.
 
"From drug dealing I made," Lawson testified matter-of-factly.
 
He said he even gave the sheriff about $20,000 for his race, in exchange for protection.
 
In court, Smith described how Clay County public officials were "working to protect drug dealers" and that "voters were lined up in lines who had been bought and bribed by the group."
 
"The drug dealer (was) bringing them in," Smith said. "Lining them up. Pay to play, boys. How much is it gonna take? Show who's got the strength, who controls this county."
 
“Once you had the county clerk and once you had the Democratic commissioner, you had control,” he said.
 
Lewis testified that in his case, he did not tell Maricle that the money he contributed to his campaign came from selling drugs, but that people "might have suspected it."
 
Since the convictions last year, prosecutors have continued to bring additional vote-buying charges and say they will pursue even more.
 
"The good news is, I think it is changing," Harvey, the U.S. attorney, said .He vows to continue the crackdown until the vote buying can one day be eliminated and elections run cleanly.
 
"When you think about how we honor people in past generations who have made great sacrifices to secure the freedoms for us, and of course the foundational freedom is the right to elect your officials in free and fair elections," he notes. "The fact that we would have people who would so willingly and so completely corrupt that process is just reprehensible. ... They deserve exactly what they are getting."
 
Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway and Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, both Democrats, have established an election integrity task force and special hotline to try to prevent voter fraud.
 
"I think we're making a dent in it," Conway told Fox News. "We are doing our best to make sure there are free and fair elections throughout the Commonwealth of Kentucky."
 
As Conway sat in a conference room in the ornate capitol building in Frankfort, he described how investigators have been placed across the state to investigate vote buying, and he decried the toll voter fraud has on the integrity of the election system.
 
“If you sell your vote, you are selling the heart of democracy. If the government belongs to someone who is out there buying votes, rather than the free will of the people, then it doesn’t belong to everybody,” he said. “It is very central to our democracy, so I think this work is very important.”
 
Since starting the task force, Conway says there has been progress. He notes there were “only two allegations of vote buying” reported during the recent May primary.
 
“Our vigilance has stepped up," he said. "I want elections to be free and fair. I am an elected official. I am grateful that voters have placed their trust in me. I can’t imagine being at the local level thinking that you got your office by something other than a free and fair election.”
 It is a message that Salyers now accepts.
 
He told Fox News that he regrets buying votes, for which he is now serving 60 days in jail. When he is released next month, Salyers will then spend six months in home detention.
 
"I made a mistake, and what I done I should have been punished and I have been punished. But even if I had got no jail time and walked off scot-free, I still brought shame on myself and on my family. And you talk about punishment, that’s punishment," he said. "I lay in bed at night a lot of times just thinking what I’ve done to them, the community and so forth. You know the only thing I can say to the community and the citizens of Breathitt County is, I'm, sorry."
 
"When I look at someone like Mike Salyers, I don't see a bad person," his attorney, Jeff Rager, said. "Mr. Salyers is a good person with a good heart, and part of what he did wrong here is part of the culture."
 
Rager is one of the many who say the dire economic conditions mean selling your vote is a quick and easy way to make some extra money.
 
“We have a culture down there with a ton of poor people at the bottom and very few people with money and power at the top," Rager said. "And whenever you have a situation like that, those people in power will do whatever they can do to maintain that power, to keep the spigot open, to keep the money flowing. And that's why they can get people... to say, hey, 'do you want to make some money?'"
 
"I'm not sure who is more culpable in a situation like this,” he said. “Whether it is the person buying the vote or the individuals who are actually selling them. On one hand, you have a person who is buying a right, and on the other hand you have somebody who has that right, that people have fought and died for, that this country is based upon, that is selling it for $25 or $75."
 
Richard Moore, who sold Salyers his vote, thinks despite the best effort by authorities, vote buying will never be fully eradicated.
 
"I don't think it will stop. They might slow it down some, and I hope they do," he said, but he doubts it.
 
Vote buying, he says is "where the money's at."
 
Meredith Orban contributed to this report. If you suspect voter fraud where you live, tell us: VoterFraud@Foxnews.com.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/25/drug-money-funds-voter-fraud-in-kentucky/#ixzz21eGZHBLM



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Re: Voter Fraud Thread
« Reply #128 on: July 25, 2012, 08:36:27 AM »
According to Straw - voter fraud is rare if ever.!

not according to me but rather The Brennan Center for Justice at NYU Law School

don't read this if you want to stay stupid:  http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/

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Re: Voter Fraud Thread
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Stealing Virginia and Maybe the Presidency
RedState.com ^ | July 25, 2012 | Dan Spencer (Diary)
Posted on July 25, 2012 8:49:16 PM EDT by justiceseeker93

The Romney campaign today has requested an investigation into potential election fraud in Virginia, a Key battle-ground state.

The request was necessary because of the shenanigans of the DC-based Voter Participation Center which has mailed voter-registration forms to deceased relatives, children, and even pets.

According to the Associated Press, the Voter Participation Center has touted the distribution of some five million registration forms in recent weeks, targeting Democratic-leaning voting blocs such as unmarried women, blacks, Latinos and young adults. The mailings appear official, arriving in privacy envelopes with the headline “VOTER REGISTRATION DOCUMENTS ENCLOSED.” Some information is already completed on the voter registration papers, and recipients also get an envelope to send completed forms to local elections officials.

PJ Media has already followed up with a great investigative piece – the return address on the VPC’s forms, which are allegedly supposed to be Virginia State Board of Elections, actually sends the forms to a rogue address:

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...

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Top Republican warns security leaks haven't stopped despite controversy
By Catherine Herridge
Published July 30, 2012
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The chairman of the powerful House Intelligence Committee told Fox News that security leaks out of the Obama administration have not stopped despite an internal probe, and that President Obama has not done enough to turn off the spigot.

Without providing specifics about the new leaks, Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., said the damaging release of sensitive information continues.

“We’ve seen more leaks, absolutely,” Rogers told Fox News in an interview Monday. “This is an opportunity for the president to be bold, to take a stand, to step up and say, ‘My administration will cooperate fully and that my staff ... should not and will not participate in coordinated or uncoordinated leaking of classified information for any reason. It's a crime.'"

Rogers, following up on criticisms of the leaks made last week by Dianne Feinstein, the Democratic chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Rogers agreed that human intelligence assets had been comprised.

“We know that sources have self selected out of cooperation around the world,”  Rogers explained. “We know that operations have had to change. We know that operations have had to shut down.”

Based on the work by his committee investigators, the congressman joined other Republicans by claiming that the classified information came from a small group of people who have access to the White House.

“It is very clear that somebody who had access to the White House situation room, had very senior covert action classified material was responsible for some of these leaks," he said. "That is not a big group of people."

On the level of cooperation from the White House, Rogers suggested it was lacking.

“I don't feel comfortable today that this administration has made every person available when the investigator needs to talk to them and the records they need to provide in a timely way. I'm not comfortable yet," Rogers said.

A congressional staffer told Fox News on Monday that the White House had yet to respond to a July 12 letter from House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, who told President Obama he’d like to interview seven current and former administration officials who may know something about a spate of national security leaks.

The request follows suggestions by lawmakers a day earlier that they’re interested in potentially pursuing a congressional investigation into the leaks, on top of the Department of Justice-led probe.

“Concern about these leaks knows no party line. When national security secrets leak and become public knowledge, our people and our national interests are jeopardized. And when our enemies know our secrets, American lives are threatened,” Smith said in a letter to the president.

The administration officials he'd like to interview are National Security Adviser Thomas Donilon, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism John Brennan, Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, Director for Counterterrorism Audrey Tomason and National Security Adviser to the Vice President Antony Blinken.

The White House did not respond to Fox News's request Monday for comment for this story.

And last Thursday, the White House downplayed comments by David Axelrod, Obama's top political strategist, who said the president didn't leak anything, then followed up by saying the president did not authorize the leaks.

“All those statements are completely true," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said. "I stand by what I've said and what Mr. Axelrod and the president said. What I can tell you is that there are investigations ongoing, and I'm not going to comment on the specifics of the investigations.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/30/top-republican-warns-security-leaks-havent-stopped-despite-controversy/

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Game Over
« Reply #135 on: August 11, 2012, 03:31:43 PM »

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #136 on: August 11, 2012, 04:08:22 PM »
I cant even watch that, I remember when this was first out there. Makes me angry.
Ridiculous.

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #137 on: August 11, 2012, 04:12:53 PM »
LOL when 240 and I yelled like crazy about this very same bullshit we were laughed off and ignored. meggacrickets.  When we said that this wasn't a liberal or conservative issue we were still ignored or laughed off.  When we pointed out that it will matter when it's a dem in office, we were fucking ignored!

LOL... Welcome to what you all helped by looking the other way when it benefited you.  All Americans should be outraged at this shit, not just the right, not just the left, fucking all.  Maybe now we can get over the bullshit and all be against this kind of shit or will the left now ignore it?  Personally I've come to the conclusion you're almost all bias assholes and it doesn't really matter anymore.

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« Reply #138 on: August 11, 2012, 04:32:22 PM »
LOL when 240 and I yelled like crazy about this very same bullshit we were laughed off and ignored. meggacrickets.  When we said that this wasn't a liberal or conservative issue we were still ignored or laughed off.  When we pointed out that it will matter when it's a dem in office, we were fucking ignored!

LOL... Welcome to what you all helped by looking the other way when it benefited you.  All Americans should be outraged at this shit, not just the right, not just the left, fucking all.  Maybe now we can get over the bullshit and all be against this kind of shit or will the left now ignore it?  Personally I've come to the conclusion you're almost all bias assholes and it doesn't really matter anymore.

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #139 on: August 11, 2012, 04:43:29 PM »

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #140 on: August 11, 2012, 04:54:39 PM »
LOL when 240 and I yelled like crazy about this very same bullshit we were laughed off and ignored. meggacrickets.  When we said that this wasn't a liberal or conservative issue we were still ignored or laughed off.  When we pointed out that it will matter when it's a dem in office, we were fucking ignored!

LOL... Welcome to what you all helped by looking the other way when it benefited you.  All Americans should be outraged at this shit, not just the right, not just the left, fucking all.  Maybe now we can get over the bullshit and all be against this kind of shit or will the left now ignore it?  Personally I've come to the conclusion you're almost all bias assholes and it doesn't really matter anymore.

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I probably would feel the same way had I voted for the messiah in 2008 w such high hopes.   

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #141 on: August 11, 2012, 05:10:37 PM »

I probably would feel the same way had I voted for the messiah in 2008 w such high hopes.  
uh... We're talking about the manipulation of the votes, not how I voted in 08 ::)  Do you understand what my meltdown is over?

I want the people to be able to go in and vote and have the final outcome reflect what the people voted for no matter what the party is.  Are you telling me I'm wrong for wanting that?  This has been a huge issue for me for a long time.

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2012, 05:36:17 PM »
This is an issue that both the left and right should set aside differences and work together to remedy.  3333, GW, do you disagree with that? 

Honeslty, if the full electorate went after this rather than just a few when it's their man in trouble, we could possible force a more honest election.

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #143 on: August 11, 2012, 05:44:59 PM »
This is an issue that both the left and right should set aside differences and work together to remedy.  3333, GW, do you disagree with that? 

Honeslty, if the full electorate went after this rather than just a few when it's their man in trouble, we could possible force a more honest election.


 obama voter who sat silent when the messiah appointed holder summers geithner liew gentsler et al have only themselves to blame 


Fuck every obama voter who sat silent while he appointed these thugs 

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #144 on: August 11, 2012, 05:59:05 PM »

 obama voter who sat silent when the messiah appointed holder summers geithner liew gentsler et al have only themselves to blame  


Fuck every obama voter who sat silent while he appointed these thugs  
You're changing the fucking subject entirely!!!  And I even agree with you on those issues you're changing the subject toward!  WTF Asshole?

Did you forget I turned against Obama when I started seeing the bullshit he was doing?

Did you forget I turned against Obama within the first 5 months of his presidency?

Did you forget I have been right there to agree with you on all the Fast and Furious bullshit?

What the hell do you want from me man?  I should just shut the fuck up and totally and completely submit to everything you espouse?

Is it to much to ask that we actually stay on topic with this issue? Do you even understand what the topic is?  Did you even watch the video GW posted?

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2012, 06:02:58 PM »
You're changing the fucking subject entirely!!!  And I even agree with you on those issues you're changing the subject toward!  WTF Asshole?

Did you forget I turned against Obama when I started seeing the bullshit he was doing?

Did you forget I turned against Obama within the first 5 months of his presidency?

Did you forget I have been right there to agree with you on all the Fast and Furious bullshit?

What the hell do you want from me man?  I should just shut the fuck up and totally and completely submit to everything you espouse?

Is it to much to ask that we actually stay on topic with this issue? Do you even understand what the topic is?  Did you even watch the video GW posted?


not you hugo     


You are the rare exception   

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #146 on: August 11, 2012, 06:12:42 PM »

not you hugo     


You are the rare exception   
the issue is an accusation of massive election fraud.

Do you think it is in the best interest of America for both the right and left to stand against all types of election fraud?

We can sit here and point fingers all day long and bring up examples on both sides.  Or we can agree that it is our duty to support the cause to fight election fraud no matter what party is at stake.  Fucking voting is one of the only things we have left and that's been a fucking massive joke for a while and getting worse with the growing fraud that occurs.  What's the point of our system if the people's vote doesn't count?

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #147 on: August 11, 2012, 06:19:59 PM »
the issue is an accusation of massive election fraud.

Do you think it is in the best interest of America for both the right and left to stand against all types of election fraud?

We can sit here and point fingers all day long and bring up examples on both sides.  Or we can agree that it is our duty to support the cause to fight election fraud no matter what party is at stake.  Fucking voting is one of the only things we have left and that's been a fucking massive joke for a while and getting worse with the growing fraud that occurs.  What's the point of our system if the people's vote doesn't count?


i have a full bore vote fraud and election fraud thread going - guess who on this board attacks it? 

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« Reply #148 on: August 11, 2012, 06:21:58 PM »

Hugo Chavez

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Re: Game Over
« Reply #149 on: August 11, 2012, 06:29:51 PM »

i have a full bore vote fraud and election fraud thread going - guess who on this board attacks it?  
I know about your thread obviously and you didn't answer my fucking question again.....  Why is it that 98 percent of your replies to me are evasive?