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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2011, 07:44:31 AM »
nothing is a more impressive bodypart than big traps. nothing exudes power like that body part- and chances are if a guy has good traps hes a pretty powerful fucker.

i am never going to be happy with the way i look- i have some kind of body dysmorphia- but when i get complimented its always on my traps. from the back they run down my back in the classic manta ray look good thick traps should have, and im not blessed with big traps. i built them.

first of all heavy weight builds big traps is a fallacy. good form with focus on using the trap itself to actually move the weight builds big traps. how many guys have you seen shrugging 4 plates a side that have very mediocre traps? they are countless. i seldom use 3 plates a side, most times 2's and 25's and im a pretty strong guy. dumbells i seldom shrug more than 110's.

the trick is to hold the weight in such a way before the start of the set you can actaully feel it pulling on your traps. if you can feel it pulling on them, hang onto that feeling the thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that connection at any point your going to heavy. drop the weight nd try again till you feel the trap and only the trap work thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that feeling you'll use your forearms shoulders triceps and legs to move that weight. and keeping tension in it might mean not doing a 'full' rep. do what you need to do but keep that tension. i'll actually tense my traps as im leaning ove the bar or the dumbells before i unrack them cause it helps me keep the focus where it is supposed to be
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you'll eventyually get to the point you can focus on what part of the trap want to hit, and believe me despite it being 'one' muscle group you can actually train either the upper part that 'sit's on the clavicle or the middle lower part that is beind the rear delt that runs down the middle of yor back.

not a lot i know about, but i know how to train traps.

Very good post..I'd like to add another thing to remember is the traps work on two planes of motion, they pull your shoulders up, but they also pull your shoulders together towards the center of your back.

whenever i train a muscle, the first thing I think of is "what does this muscle do, and how does it move my body?"  and I go from there. Traps are an up and back movement, so i lean forward a slight bit to attack both planes of motion. I actually do sets standing straight up, and sets leaning forward....and sometimes behind the back as well.  


Your traps are one of the biggest muscles in your body, they cover half your back. it amazes me when people say "Ah, do some deads and you're fine"....I do not just breeze through traps, they are a major bodypart IMO

and that's why I have good ones  ;)

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2011, 07:47:25 AM »
The Kelso shrug book mirrors what Groink has said and is filled with great routines.

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2011, 07:48:23 AM »
Do you use wrist straps? If not, try it, you can  quadruple the amount of weight you can use...

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2011, 07:53:58 AM »
I do Deadlifts and DB Shrugs on my back day. 5 sets of Deadlifts, rep scheme 10, 6, 6, 6, 3-6. 4 sets of DB Shrugs 12-15 reps. Traps are one of my best bodyparts. I think the combo of low rep deadlifts(3-6 on my final set) and high rep shrugs is the best for big traps.

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2011, 07:57:11 AM »
are you on gh and trenbolna? traps should build themselfes

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2011, 08:01:03 AM »
nothing is a more impressive bodypart than big traps. nothing exudes power like that body part- and chances are if a guy has good traps hes a pretty powerful fucker.

i am never going to be happy with the way i look- i have some kind of body dysmorphia- but when i get complimented its always on my traps. from the back they run down my back in the classic manta ray look good thick traps should have, and im not blessed with big traps. i built them.

first of all heavy weight builds big traps is a fallacy. good form with focus on using the trap itself to actually move the weight builds big traps. how many guys have you seen shrugging 4 plates a side that have very mediocre traps? they are countless. i seldom use 3 plates a side, most times 2's and 25's and im a pretty strong guy. dumbells i seldom shrug more than 110's.

the trick is to hold the weight in such a way before the start of the set you can actaully feel it pulling on your traps. if you can feel it pulling on them, hang onto that feeling the thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that connection at any point your going to heavy. drop the weight nd try again till you feel the trap and only the trap work thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that feeling you'll use your forearms shoulders triceps and legs to move that weight. and keeping tension in it might mean not doing a 'full' rep. do what you need to do but keep that tension. i'll actually tense my traps as im leaning ove the bar or the dumbells before i unrack them cause it helps me keep the focus where it is supposed to be
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you'll eventyually get to the point you can focus on what part of the trap want to hit, and believe me despite it being 'one' muscle group you can actually train either the upper part that 'sit's on the clavicle or the middle lower part that is beind the rear delt that runs down the middle of yor back.

not a lot i know about, but i know how to train traps.

Lots of good advice here!

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2011, 08:03:06 AM »
You can do traps on dip bars as well, and on the pull up bars---I learned that from that trap book.

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2011, 08:08:51 AM »
Run the rack on DB shrugs.

Start at the heavy side of the dumbbel rack, pick a weight you can get 12 REAL reps with, not the bullshit 2 inch shrugs you see that fat assholes who think they are big doing..and go down the entire rack, dropping in ten pound increments , shrugging to 12 with each weight


This.
also vary your routine.db shrugs,straight bar shrugs,if they have a machine for shrugs at your gym,and behind the back shrugs.

....my shrug torture routine goes like this...start with a db you can do 20xs,as soon as you finish grab light db's like 35-40lb.start at the top of the contraction,then lower the weight only an inch or two so your traps are always being worked,do 10-12 reps.take a rest then increase the db's by 10lb increments until it gets too heavy to 8-10 reps,and always superset with the 35-40's


trust me you'll see a great pump and development...I do these like once a month.




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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2011, 08:14:30 AM »
Low volume (3-5 reps)

Trap bar deads
regular deads
Hang cleans
power cleans
clean pulls
tire flips
farmers walks
keg carries
just about anything strongman

High Volume (8-15 reps)

BB shrugs
DB shrugs (seated or standing)
upright rows (BB or DB)
Machine shrugs (yuk)





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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2011, 08:14:47 AM »
You can also do shrugs on the calf machine.......load up the stack,get under the pads and shrug.

Another seldom seen/used one is "armpit rows"..........grab two dumbells and while keeping them at your sides,do an upright row movement trying to pull the bells into your armpits......it`s impossible,but get them as high as you can and squeeze at the top.

Great advice from no one and Groink...I always lean forward while shrugging and let the weight stretch the traps downward.

I like 12-20 reps.

One important thing to remember is that if you have weak side delt development and no cap on the deltoids,too much trap work can give you a sloped shouldered look,so train those side delts to look your best.

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2011, 08:41:17 AM »
nothing is a more impressive bodypart than big traps. nothing exudes power like that body part- and chances are if a guy has good traps hes a pretty powerful fucker.

i am never going to be happy with the way i look- i have some kind of body dysmorphia- but when i get complimented its always on my traps. from the back they run down my back in the classic manta ray look good thick traps should have, and im not blessed with big traps. i built them.

first of all heavy weight builds big traps is a fallacy. good form with focus on using the trap itself to actually move the weight builds big traps. how many guys have you seen shrugging 4 plates a side that have very mediocre traps? they are countless. i seldom use 3 plates a side, most times 2's and 25's and im a pretty strong guy. dumbells i seldom shrug more than 110's.

the trick is to hold the weight in such a way before the start of the set you can actaully feel it pulling on your traps. if you can feel it pulling on them, hang onto that feeling the thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that connection at any point your going to heavy. drop the weight nd try again till you feel the trap and only the trap work thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that feeling you'll use your forearms shoulders triceps and legs to move that weight. and keeping tension in it might mean not doing a 'full' rep. do what you need to do but keep that tension. i'll actually tense my traps as im leaning ove the bar or the dumbells before i unrack them cause it helps me keep the focus where it is supposed to be
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you'll eventyually get to the point you can focus on what part of the trap want to hit, and believe me despite it being 'one' muscle group you can actually train either the upper part that 'sit's on the clavicle or the middle lower part that is beind the rear delt that runs down the middle of yor back.

not a lot i know about, but i know how to train traps.

agree 100000000000000000000000 0%

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2011, 08:44:18 AM »
Deadlifts work wonders.
And like Groink said, you need to do real shrugs.  Slow down the cadence, and do them at a 2/2, trying to put your shoulders to your ears.
This stuff is not that hard, especially if you do your movements with good form. 
When drugs enter the equation, everything grows (especially traps), but that is a horse of a different color.

That's the thing. Deadlifts aren't a trap exercise, yet they work them anyway. That's why direct trap work isn't really necessary. Everything else works them indirectly. Kind of like forearms

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2011, 08:46:57 AM »
Heavy upright rows, use straps and belt. Terrific..

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2011, 09:00:06 AM »
That's the thing. Deadlifts aren't a trap exercise, yet they work them anyway. That's why direct trap work isn't really necessary. Everything else works them indirectly. Kind of like forearms

"Shrugs" on a supported t-bar row are awesome too, or with a trap bar, or with dumbells while you are leaning on a high incline bench, etc.

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2011, 09:06:31 AM »
nothing is a more impressive bodypart than big traps. nothing exudes power like that body part- and chances are if a guy has good traps hes a pretty powerful fucker.

i am never going to be happy with the way i look- i have some kind of body dysmorphia- but when i get complimented its always on my traps. from the back they run down my back in the classic manta ray look good thick traps should have, and im not blessed with big traps. i built them.

first of all heavy weight builds big traps is a fallacy. good form with focus on using the trap itself to actually move the weight builds big traps. how many guys have you seen shrugging 4 plates a side that have very mediocre traps? they are countless. i seldom use 3 plates a side, most times 2's and 25's and im a pretty strong guy. dumbells i seldom shrug more than 110's.

the trick is to hold the weight in such a way before the start of the set you can actaully feel it pulling on your traps. if you can feel it pulling on them, hang onto that feeling the thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that connection at any point your going to heavy. drop the weight nd try again till you feel the trap and only the trap work thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that feeling you'll use your forearms shoulders triceps and legs to move that weight. and keeping tension in it might mean not doing a 'full' rep. do what you need to do but keep that tension. i'll actually tense my traps as im leaning ove the bar or the dumbells before i unrack them cause it helps me keep the focus where it is supposed to be
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you'll eventyually get to the point you can focus on what part of the trap want to hit, and believe me despite it being 'one' muscle group you can actually train either the upper part that 'sit's on the clavicle or the middle lower part that is beind the rear delt that runs down the middle of yor back.

not a lot i know about, but i know how to train traps.

"the trick is to hold the weight in such a way before the start of the set you can actaully feel it pulling on your traps. if you can feel it pulling on them, hang onto that feeling the thru the entire range of motion. if you lose that connection at any point your going to heavy. drop the weight nd try again till you feel the trap and only the trap work thru the entire range of motion."...Couldn't have said it better !!

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2011, 09:07:11 AM »
http://goldenmuscles.com/training/spring-the-traps/



Ask a bodybuilder how he built his traps and he’ll simply shrug his shoulders. This is more truth than joke, for most of us put about as much thought into trapezius training as we do trapeze artistry. Chances are you simply grab a barbell or two dumbbells and move your shoulders up and down for a few sets at the end of your shoulder routine. However, there are many variations of the common shrug. This month, we focus on 10 valuable shrugging exercises you probably aren’t doing. Using these unique lifts, you can map out a fresh approach to the often-stale chore of traps training.

BEHIND-THE-BACK SHRUGS
These are sometimes called ‘Haney shrugs’ because they have long been a favorite of eighttime Mr. Olympia Lee Haney. Instead of holding a barbell in front of your thighs, hold the barbell behind you. This position forces you to keep your scapulas pulled backward throughout the shrug, thus focusing more on yourmiddle traps (although most of the shrugging tension is still on your upper traps). You may find that a Smith machine allows you to better position yourself for this lift.

HOLD SHRUGS
You can dramatically boost the intensity of any shrug by holding the top position of each rep for three to five seconds. Such peak contractions are especially effective for shrugs because, unlike many lifts, there is no lockout at contraction and, with your arms perpendicular to the floor, gravity is maximizing its pull.

LYING SHRUGS
This is the inverse of incline shrugs. While lying face-down on an incline bench or a high flat bench, hold either a barbell or two dumbbells with your arms straight and perpendicular to the floor. Do not shrug your shoulders toward your ears. Instead, while keeping your arms straight, lift the weight(s) by contracting your scapulas. This works your middle trapezius and other muscles of your upper back.

LOW-CABLE SHRUGS
Grab a straight bar attached to a low cable and stand back so the cable, as well as your arms, are at approximately a 45-degree angle to the floor. Shrug your shoulders back and up at the same time. The angle of resistance works both your upper and middle traps (middle back).

OVERHEAD SHRUGS
Although this unique exercise can be performed with either a barbell or two dumbbells, we recommend using a Smith machine for safety and convenience. Begin by holding the bar overhead, as if in the top position of a military press but with your scapulas pulled down as far as possible. Then, push the bar up as far as possible by elevating your scapulas.

TRAP FACTS

    * The trapezius is commonly referred to as a single muscle, but it actually consists of two muscles, one on either side of the spine. Together, they form a sheet of muscle roughly the shape of a kite, originating at your skull and the top of your neck and extending all the way down the spine to your middle back, fanning out to the ends of both clavicles and the top of the scapulas.
    * The main function of the upper area of your trapezius is to pull up your scapulas (shrug your shoulders) and extend your neck back. The main function of the middle area of your trapezius is to pull back your scapulas (draw your shoulder blades toward each other).
    * Most bodybuilders train traps with shoulders, but training them with back is also a logical choice. The middle traps are worked primarily with back exercises, such as rows.
    * Your trapezius muscles are among the busiest helpers in your body, assisting with lifts as diverse as deadlifts, bench presses, barbell rows and squats.
 




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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2011, 09:08:23 AM »
stop speaking for 2 months every time someone tries to talk to you just shrug your shoulders.
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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2011, 09:11:55 AM »
You can also do shrugs on the calf machine.......load up the stack,get under the pads and shrug.

Another seldom seen/used one is "armpit rows"..........grab two dumbells and while keeping them at your sides,do an upright row movement trying to pull the bells into your armpits......it`s impossible,but get them as high as you can and squeeze at the top.

Great advice from no one and Groink...I always lean forward while shrugging and let the weight stretch the traps downward.

I like 12-20 reps.

One important thing to remember is that if you have weak side delt development and no cap on the deltoids,too much trap work can give you a sloped shouldered look,so train those side delts to look your best.


LOLOLOL !!!!!!!....I thought I was the only crazy bastard who did these...talk about a DIRECT HIT...it's all traps, no escape...great for getting them to "pop" up

I also like to do traps on the FreeMotion cables. put the arms down low  and out wider than shoulder width...grab the handles and shrug...the advantage is you can change the angle of your body when you shrug by leaning forwards or backwards, so i do 6 reps leaning back, 6 reps straight up and 6 reps leaning forward...it's killer

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2011, 09:33:29 AM »
great advice all..i have tried just about every variation mentioned,,including groink's and wes shrug on calf machine ,,,i like groink's up the rack and down heavy to lighter for reps,,,

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2011, 09:39:30 AM »

LOLOLOL !!!!!!!....I thought I was the only crazy bastard who did these...talk about a DIRECT HIT...it's all traps, no escape...great for getting them to "pop" up
Chalk up two points for the old fuckers!  LOL  ;D

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2011, 09:40:46 AM »
great advice all..i have tried just about every variation mentioned,,including groink's and wes shrug on calf machine ,,,i like groink's up the rack and down heavy to lighter for reps,,,
Running the rack is a monster..whether it`s shrugs,laterals,curls,etc,etc,...................get ready for some pain!!  :(

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2011, 09:42:28 AM »
Running the rack is a monster..whether it`s shrugs,laterals,curls,etc,etc,...................get ready for some pain!!  :(
yes wes lol,,,i do side laterals that way sometimes,,,

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2011, 09:47:32 AM »

LOLOLOL !!!!!!!....I thought I was the only crazy bastard who did these...talk about a DIRECT HIT...it's all traps, no escape...great for getting them to "pop" up

I also like to do traps on the FreeMotion cables. put the arms down low  and out wider than shoulder width...grab the handles and shrug...the advantage is you can change the angle of your body when you shrug by leaning forwards or backwards, so i do 6 reps leaning back, 6 reps straight up and 6 reps leaning forward...it's killer
Wrong.

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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2011, 09:48:51 AM »
Running the rack is a monster..whether it`s shrugs,laterals,curls,etc,etc,...................get ready for some pain!!  :(




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Re: Building Thick Traps
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2011, 09:52:03 AM »



Now THAT`S a rack I could run with!!  ;D