If it comes down to it, I'll vote for Obama over Newt

[Roger Bacon]

Son of a bitch actually wants to strengthen the Patriot Act...

 

[howardroark]

Instead of throwing your vote away with Obama, you should vote third party 

[Soul Crusher]

Zero sense at all considering obama has already greatly expanded the police state. 

[Dos Equis]

Absurd.  But in listening to liberals talk about Obama, it's incredible how much of a blind eye they turn to what a disaster Obama has been.  Can anyone imagine what he will do as a lame duck?  Pretty scary. 

[Soul Crusher]

Absurd.  But in listening to liberals talk about Obama, it's incredible how much of a blind eye they turn to what a disaster Obama has been.  Can anyone imagine what he will do as a lame duck?  Pretty scary. 

liberals are a pathetic joke.   Sad sacks of shit who would excuse literally ANYTHING Obama does.   

[Dos Equis]

liberals are a pathetic joke.   Sad sacks of shit who would excuse literally ANYTHING Obama does.   

I wouldn't go that far, many of them are disconnected from reality.  I was in a room full of liberals the other day and they were convinced Obama is a shoe-in for reelection.  These were smart people.  But that's the nature of partisan politics.  The facts don't matter much. 

[Soul Crusher]

I wouldn't go that far, many of them are disconnected from reality.  I was in a room full of liberals the other day and they were convinced Obama is a shoe-in for reelection.  These were smart people.  But that's the nature of partisan politics.  The facts don't matter much. 

Based on what?  Do these morons even watch the news or read anything?  Lets say this idiot gets another 4 years - can anyone tell me what he plans to do with it? 

Shit - he can't even articulate what he needs or wants a second term for.  He cant work with the congress, his policies are failed, the gop is slated to hold the house and take over the senate, etc.  So he wont get anything he wants. 

There is not one reason anyone can come up with for a second term of this moron. 

Looking backwards his policies are a disaster!   Looking forward - he promises only more of the same crap!   

[Dos Equis]

Based on what?  Do these morons even watch the news or read anything?  Lets say this idiot gets another 4 years - can anyone tell me what he plans to do with it? 

Shit - he can't even articulate what he needs or wants a second term for.  He cant work with the congress, his policies are failed, the gop is slated to hold the house and take over the senate, etc.  So he wont get anything he wants. 

There is not one reason anyone can come up with for a second term of this moron. 

Looking backwards his policies are a disaster!   Looking forward - he promises only more of the same crap!   

Their main points are the weakness of the Republican field and that he inherited a mess and couldn't be expected to fix things in one term. 

I tried to walk through his signature achievements (Obamacare, the stimulus, etc.) and what a failure they have been, but it was essentially a waste of time. 

[2ND COMING]

Son of a bitch actually wants to strengthen the Patriot Act...

 

Obama has extended the patriot act though. Lol.

[Soul Crusher]

Their main points are the weakness of the Republican field and that he inherited a mess and couldn't be expected to fix things in one term. 

I tried to walk through his signature achievements (Obamacare, the stimulus, etc.) and what a failure they have been, but it was essentially a waste of time. 

And?   What do these fools think he is going to do in a second term that is going to change anything that he has not tried already?   These idiots' line of reasoning is so patently absurd its not funny? 

The GOP field?  Please - like these fools were ever going to vote for christie or jindall or ryan?   

[Soul Crusher]

Care to comment anyone? 

[Hugo Chavez]

Instead of throwing your vote away with Obama, you should vote third party  

I'll back PiP 100%

I have been all in on getting Obama OUT but if it's Newt Vs. Obama, I'm out... I can't vote for Newt... Sorry....

[240 is Back]

Care to comment anyone? 

kinda a weak thing.  he's possibly gonna lose, he squandered 2 years of a bulletproof congressional vote...

and yet things like civilian force or gun control - he never touched them.

if he had wanted to, he would have, but he would have done it when he had the majority.  GOP congress ain't passing shit.

[Hugo Chavez]

Obama has extended the patriot act though. Lol.

So you're asking us to pick between shit and shit on shit.  Sounds fun but I'll pass this time...

[240 is Back]

So you're asking us to pick between shit and shit on shit.  Sounds fun but I'll pass this time...

GOP voters will intentionally place the nutrition Ron paul sandwich in the garbage, then proceed to choose which dog turd to eat.

it's baffling.  It's like some sort of shit-eating fetish, something I would never believe repubs would do.

[Soul Crusher]

GOP voters will intentionally place the nutrition Ron paul sandwich in the garbage, then proceed to choose which dog turd to eat.

it's baffling.  It's like some sort of shit-eating fetish, something I would never believe repubs would do.

240 - its both parties.  Ever see Luntzs' panels?   The average voter in this country on both sides is a complete idiot. 

[Hugo Chavez]

240 - its both parties.  Ever see Luntzs' panels?   The average voter in this country on both sides is a complete idiot.  

I'll agree with that too...  


With that said, I'm not going to show up and check Newt over Obama.

[240 is Back]

240 - its both parties.  Ever see Luntzs' panels?   The average voter in this country on both sides is a complete idiot. 

in teh general election, will you vote for a Ron paul that's polling at 20%, over newt tied at 40 with obama?

[Hugo Chavez]

If Newt wins the primary, I'll show up and vote a write in for Ron Paul.

[Soul Crusher]

in teh general election, will you vote for a Ron paul that's polling at 20%, over newt tied at 40 with obama?

RP is not going to run as an Inde.   

[240 is Back]

RP is not going to run as an Inde.   

so let's make this a hypothetical.  your refusal to answer smells like you're hiding a newt response.  You did vote Romney over RPaul in 2012 because the media polls (which you distrust) told you so.

[Soul Crusher]

so let's make this a hypothetical.  your refusal to answer smells like you're hiding a newt response.  You did vote Romney over RPaul in 2012 because the media polls (which you distrust) told you so.

No - my goal and priority is to send Obama back to Kenya first and foremost.   

[240 is Back]

No - my goal and priority is to send Obama back to Kenya first and foremost.   

the govt says he was born in hawaii.  Is the entire state of hawaii lying here?

[howardroark]

No - my goal and priority is to send Obama back to Kenya first and foremost.   

A typical example of the myopia which inhibits so many Republican voters. The mainstream right-wing media (e.g. Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity) do much to drum up this kind of sentiment. Don't worry about what will happen 2, 4, or 6 years from now, worry what will happen this coming election! The candidates might not be perfect (in reality, they're not "imperfect" but "god awful"), but at least they're not Democrats! What they seem to forget is that they'll keep on getting "imperfect" candidates as long as they vote for "imperfect" Republicans in the general election. And as long as "imperfect" Republicans are running for public office, we'll have a bipolar relationship in this country between the party that grows government quickly and the party that grows government very quickly.

[Soul Crusher]

A typical example of the myopia which inhibits so many Republican voters. The mainstream right-wing media (e.g. Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity) do much to drum up this kind of sentiment. Don't worry about what will happen 2, 4, or 6 years from now, worry what will happen this coming election! The candidates might not be perfect (in reality, they're not "imperfect" but "god awful"), but at least they're not Democrats! What they seem to forget is that they'll keep on getting "imperfect" candidates as long as they vote for "imperfect" Republicans in the general election. And as long as "imperfect" Republicans are running for public office, we'll have a bipolar relationship in this country between the party that grows government quickly and the party that grows government very quickly.

I'm looking at this from a buainess and emergency point of view.   This is like the fat overweight alchy dying patient rushed in to the ER for a gun shot wound.   You need to stablize the patient from immediate death and then counsel them for their eating and addiction problems.