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In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of
Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some
2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist until
the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts
from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for
the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with
the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal
policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of
history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations
always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
The Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2008
        It doesn't hurt to read this several times.


Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in  St. Paul ,
Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the last
Presidential election:

Number of States won by:            Obama: 19          McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by:        Obama: 580,000    McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:    Obama: 127 million  McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:  Obama: 13.2
McCain: 2.1


Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was
mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income
tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the  United States  is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy,
with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached
the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the
USA  in fewer than five years.

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Re: A democracy is always temporary in nature - interesting viewpoint
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 07:32:34 PM »
A democracy is always temporary in nature... but it's important to point out that the United States wasn't founded as a democracy.

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Re: A democracy is always temporary in nature - interesting viewpoint
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2011, 07:40:53 PM »
The parasites and leeches will always vote themselves- pay raise by electing people like Obama.

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Re: A democracy is always temporary in nature - interesting viewpoint
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2011, 01:00:52 AM »
The parasites and leeches will always vote themselves- pay raise by electing people like Obama.

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White voters have voted themselves a comfortable life for hundreds of years by having jobs and using soap. The rise of the 9% has begun. Accept it or be left in the dust you reactionary bigot.

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Re: A democracy is always temporary in nature - interesting viewpoint
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2011, 08:51:47 AM »

Good post quadzilla!

This part is espacially interesting:
Number of States won by:            Obama: 19          McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by:        Obama: 580,000    McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:    Obama: 127 million  McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:  Obama: 13.2
McCain: 2.1


Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was
mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income
tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

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Re: A democracy is always temporary in nature - interesting viewpoint
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2011, 08:55:14 AM »
What is the total INCOME or TAXES PAID of the Obama vs. Mccain crowds?

Methinks a person who owns 1 square mile of real estate in NYC pays a tad bit more in taxes than a guy who owns 1 square mile in Montana?

It's always been "if you touch water, you vote democrat".  ANd water that touches land costs a lot more.

Still, some fascinating points made quad, as quoted by PIP.